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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ants-amid-calls-for-emergency-EU-meeting.html

As I said, though.  Evil Merkel has ended the EU - so that's a positive.

Belgium’s immigration minister tried to calm popular fears over the sex attacks by ordering new migrants to face mandatory “respect for women” courses.

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Come on, laugh with me. It wouldn't be out of place in a political comedy.

You'll have to ignore the Telegraph's subtle pro-Europe bias, though.  You can feel it in the article.

+1, this is so sad. Even after all they see, there are still people holding "welcome refugees" signs. That makes me so angry.

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You know that saying things have to get worse before they can get better? That's the truth, the problem is we live in such a time where if things get worse they could get really bad, because of so many people dependent on the government in one way or another, really they are setting up the world for either World War 3 or a world of Communist/Capitalist slavery and slums and mindless consumers kinda like how Brazil is. They want one globalist world that's easy to control, one people without religion or race, or family, or any bonds which could bind them together and pose a threat to this "new world order". I know a lot of people say this but it's something right out of 1984. That's what it feels like. It's not a conspiracy theory either, the conspiracy has been here, you can only say something is a conspiracy theory when there is no proof or when the opposite side is denying it, the people at the top haven't even been trying to hide their agenda for two decades at least.

I don't know which is scarier - the fact Islam has been killing and conquering for 1400 years or the fact the West hasn't learned a damn thing from appeasing Hitler and is doing it all over again. I guess it really boils down to the same thing - the human race isn't as fantastic as we've been told. It's continually at the mercy of the under-educated, which make up the majority.

If you want to see why Star Trek's liberalism doesn't work in the long run - look at Sweden.

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Edit: I keep typing off course, and it changes it to "off" automatically after i hit save. No idea why.

You know real life kinda mirrors Final Fantasy 7 in some ways now that I think about it, a mega corporation dominates the policies of the world in the game, like how the Federal Reserve and the International Member banks dominate our world, the traditionalist society of Wutai which tried to fight back got taken out even though they fought valiantly and nearly won using inferior technology. The planet is being severely damaged, and threatened with possible annihilation in the form of nuclear "weapons". I wonder if whoever wrote the script intended these parallels. Maybe they saw the decay of Japanese society into soulless capitalism which can only lead to the even worse Communist societies we are now transitioning into. I hate Marx as a person and as a political thinker but I think he was right that Capitalism creates the necessary conditions to bring about Communism. Capitalism would work in a perfect world where people followed the golden rule and were kind to eachother or with some controls but it's the corporations who control the government and the people who are afraid of the government when it should be the other way around, the government should control corporations and the government should be afraid of the people it governs!

Well, the elite will lose in the end.  The only way they could be successful in turning so many humans into slaves is to poke around with genetics.  And I'm not even sure how viable that would be.  We're already seeing in Germany and France that the population is pushing back.  Sooner or later a flashpoint will occur, and Merkel et al will be at the end of a noose or fleeing for the lives. Nope nope nope. ~Vgr

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What the actual fern? 
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Unfortunately, the powers that be on this forum (actually one moderator in particular, I'd wager) think that wishing someone was dead is illegal - it most certainly is not.  It is illegal to incite murder, or say you yourself are going to commit a crime, but not to say you'll be happy if something does happen to a person (in this case, a particular politician).  How many posts around the net expressed a wish that Saddam or Bin Laden would die?  I bet I can find you a post from this very site. We've descended around these parts into telling people what to think and moderating based on a flimsy understanding of law. If you want that to be the case, at least place it in the rules.  The edited piece from above was not illegal in the slightest, and editing it is just stupid.

@vgr, editing and moderating for the sake of boredom is not the job description.  If the mods around here want to conjure up some special rules, I'll be fine obeying them.  But nothing I wrote above was against rules or illegal.

If you wish to discuss my decisions, please do so in a PM to the admins. I will have no problem admitting my errors if the admins state I made one. Right now it's my opinion against yours, and neither is worth more than the other.

Well, that's all fine and dandy but you've already left

Nope nope nope. ~Vgr

Which then gives the impression I have said something totally illegal. I'd much prefer it if the part was removed and then just notify the reason on the forum, so others can know.  But it's a bit too late for debates about whether it was fine or not because what I said has now been removed.

I don't want to debate this any further.  If something is removed, at least put up a reason.  But maybe you should discuss decisions with the other mods before removing someone's post? Having one person just deciding if someone's opinion is okay isn't the best way to go unless you're the admin.  But if this carries on, I'll just stop bothering because, let's face it, this is a game forum.

If you want opinions, have them.  If you don't - remove this entire section.

Unfortunately, the powers that be on this forum (actually one moderator in particular, I'd wager) think that wishing someone was dead is illegal - it most certainly is not.  It is illegal to incite murder, or say you yourself are going to commit a crime, but not to say you'll be happy if something does happen to a person (in this case, a particular politician).  How many posts around the net expressed a wish that Saddam or Bin Laden would die?  I bet I can find you a post from this very site. We've descended around these parts into telling people what to think and moderating based on a flimsy understanding of law. If you want that to be the case, at least place it in the rules.  The edited piece from above was not illegal in the slightest, and editing it is just stupid.

@vgr, editing and moderating for the sake of boredom is not the job description.  If the mods around here want to conjure up some special rules, I'll be fine obeying them.  But nothing I wrote above was against rules or illegal.

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How about common sense? It's not about being legal or illegal, it's more about the fact that this surely isn't the appropriate place for such pathetic hate comments. People come here for fun, to look for gaming mods and to discuss Final Fantasy games (and other stuff in general). You spill whatever diarrhea your brain can come out with regardless if it offends or bothers anyone else here, you show no respect towards anyone or anything that doesn't match your own views and you are shocked that a moderator would delete a phrase where you wish death upon someone. You're a sad, grumpy and toxic being.

How about common sense? It's not about being legal or illegal,

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So it's really about whether you agree with it or not.  Ok.  Gotcha.

If you want to let the others know where we disagree on that point, go right ahead. I will stop replying until another moderator or admin has weighed in, however.

So it's really about whether you agree with it or not.  Ok.  Gotcha.

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Pretty sure the post you quoted explains exactly what it is and isn't about. Not that your limited brain could accept it, after all, it doesn't match your views and therefor it's irrelevant to you.  Sad.

Pretty sure the post you quoted explains exactly what it is and isn't about. Not that your limited brain could accept it, after all, it doesn't match your views and therefor it's irrelevant to you.  Sad.

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That's not an argument, it's just baiting.  Please leave this discussion for the adults

To others:  I am not happy with the edit because it's an edit of a personal opinion and is not illegal. It doesn't matter whether you find that opinion distasteful - this is the offtopic section and what I said I believe. There are thousands of posts online wishing death on a number of politicians and it's their right to do so.  In my case, the politician in question has allowed mass rape and basically caused misery to thousands and thousands more to come.  So why would I have compassion?  The edit on the other page could equally be applied to posts about Bin Laden - but they wouldn't be? Why?

In Britain "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" was made number 1 in the Charts when Margaret Thatcher died.  I found that distasteful to her relatives, but it was absolutely not illegal and was people's right to voice satisfaction in her passing. And before that, she was the target of unparalleled vitriol.

To sum up: My post was expressing a personal opinion and didn't break any rules.  If a rule is added - fine.  And if it is, I'll just not bother posting in this section because I sure as hell am not going to be told what to think. In fact, in recent weeks this section has become more and more draconian to the point where it isn't even worth posting in it.

Edit. Actually, forget it.  I'm just going to take my posts to PM, where I can converse with people who I want to talk to - completely absent of the moderation and baiting.  I can see where this is going - debates about modding decisions galore - and of course the occasional thick-as-pig-shit troll like above. No thanks I'm not in the mood for that nonsense anymore.  ;D

Please block my account from accessing the offtopic section.  I'll save you the trouble and censor myself. It's for the best.  I'm never going to agree to the moderation as it stands, and I can't suffer pillocks like above without eventually retaliating. Like I have this post.  Plus, I find it a complete waste of my time - unlike years ago.  I'm not being sarcastic, either.  I'd rather not have the ability to see this section.  8)

That's not an argument, it's just baiting.  Please leave this discussion for the adults

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*yawn*
Are you done?

No, apparently you're not, since you went back and wrote a wall of text explaining how it should be ok to share your toxic views on how you wish someone was murdered in a forum that has absolutely nothing to do with such stuff.

And if it is, I'll just not bother posting in this section because I sure as hell am not going to be told what to think.

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That's the best thing that could happen to this forum considering how your posts consist of hateful, spiteful and intolerant posts towards others and their opinions.

ps: forum karma is serious business  ;D

Not that your limited brain could accept it, after all, it doesn't match your views and therefor it's irrelevant to you.  Sad.

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You dare to talk about tolerance and hates, when you just call someone is brain limited?

If you're ever wondering why we end up with crap politicians and really lousy countries, look no further than Ric, who accuses me of having no brain when his sum contribution to anything constructive here is zero.  He's a classic example of "I agree with your right to free speech as long as you don't say something I disagree with".  He's also butt hurt because I didn't like the new Star Wars   You can't legislate for stupidity - but we certainly should be curtailing the right to vote for such people.  Definitely. We shouldn't tolerate intolerance - that's why Germany is about to go up in flames for the third time in 100 years.

I think if we raised the voting age to 30, and held aptitude/IQ tests for people to be eligible for voting, we'd have much better politicians and laws. At the very least, people shutting down debates with the "you are a hater / racist / sexist / homophobe / bigot / xenophobe / Islamophobe" and other ad hominem nonsense should be afforded nothing but scorn and ridicule. 

If you're ever wondering why we end up with crap politicians and really lousy countries, look no further than Ric.  He's a classic example of "I agree with your right to free speech as long as you don't say something I disagree with".

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No, not at all. The right to free speech is the best thing you, I and alot of people have. However coming on a forum that's supposed to be about videogames and fun in general and claim you wish someone gets assassinated... That's just offensive and it's out of place.

He's also butt hurt because I didn't like the new Star Wars

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I never saw any of the Star Wars movies in my life... And i'm not interested in doing so. As usual, you missed the point on the other topic just like you're missing the point on this one cause you were too busy puking your thoughts and ideals on everyone's face.

We shouldn't tolerate intolerance

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Woah, wise words. Get my point yet?

The issue was never your opinion... Did anyone call you out and tell you "fern you for thinking that?" No, no one did. The issue was simply that this isn't the right place to spread hate, especially in regards to someone being killed. There's a time and place for everything and this just wasn't the right place.


People often mistake their right to free speech with "I can say whatever i want, wherever i want, whenever i please and screw whoever gets offended" and you're the perfect example of that.

Stop it, children. This thread was started for fun stuff, the sorts of things that LeonhartGR used to share, not this petty bickering. It has clearly outlived its usefulness, and will now be closed.