Do i need to download all of the mods in the bootleg pack torrent?

[EQ2Alyza]

I have normal version the old one i think?

You mean the original CD copy?

dont know if thats usefull, so that particular step changes depending on the version?

No, it doesn't change depending on the version. Every version should use it. Knowing the version gives me information on how and where the game was installed. Kompass' FF7 Game Converter then fixes any RegistryKey errors associated with the game's installation path and allows bypassing of Bootleg's slightly buggy, built-in converter. It also allows Bootleg to install correctly with UAC even enabled. Although it may not pertain to your copy, it also enables compatibility with Windows XP and Windows 8, 32 and 64 bit.

Rather than answer questions to use it or not because it's bothersome (literally, it is) to checklist these details, FF7 Game Converter is made required to do the checklisting for them and won't ever harm the installation to do so. This is not explained because...

A) ...most users don't read long-winded explanations. More doing, less talking.
B) ...the Qhimm link to its thread explains it already.
C) ...its fixes are catered specifically toward user-friendliness. Otherwise, they would have to troubleshoot and manually edit these things through Q&A responding on a forum...aka not-so-user-friendliness.

, that is not explained in there either (not triyong to be an ass, just pointing that out).

Yes, I know you're not trying to be one...just as I'm trying not to think you're one.

I recently finished the 17 gb download wow, its huge... i hope its worht it, im going to reinstall since i hit the run bootleg button when i was checking the config tool and i had 0 mods downloaded, so i guess that will f*ck up everything, it was only a milisecond though but still, better safe than sorry.

Yes, clicking buttons without reading is why you messed up. My guide didn't do this. Somewhere you asked about a place to download only what you need, rather than downloading it all. There is a place to do that. It's labeled in BIG, BOLD, RED lettering right above the torrent link. I'm not trying to be an ass. I'm just pointing that out.




Can you tell you're not on my good side right now? The RULES clearly state how posting etiquette should be, and although you may have not read it to know, it's still a statement that is universal to us all. You have to understand that it is very difficult to simply answer someone who is labeling double posted threads with "WTF" in them, ranting with CAPS and tough to read spelling/grammar about how we do things wrongly / poorly / WTFly around here. If you're desiring people to get to the point, than you yourself need to get to the point, clearly and concisely. Criticism in that process is not included. Also, it helps to post in the thread for which you're having the issues from, rather than starting your own individual thread. Q&A within the thread it pertains to helps everyone who comes along and decides to search that thread for possible solutions before posting their question(s). Please understand everything I'm saying.




Despite all that has occurred, I'm still going to help you because I'm inclined to be the good person I am...or, at least, I think I am  :|

Do the following to move past the FF7 Game Converter and get to modding the game:


[list type=decimal]
[*]Uninstall FF7Music (you probably haven't installed this yet, but just in case it shows in Control Panel).
[*]Uninstall Final Fantasy VII
[*]Clean all FF7 RegistryKeys with this: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ad2ttfhmdqmjd56/FF7-REMOVE-Keys.exe
[*]Install Final Fantasy VII to a non-system folder
[*]Rename an HDD or USB Flash Drive to FF7DISC1 or Mount the ISO from STEP 1.
[*]RUN FF7 Game Converter.
[*]Start at STEP 2.
[/list]

Can you elaborate?, because i cant understand.

Also about the music thing i saw that some guy had the black mages music on the battles.

Is there a mod list or anything so i could check out?

I think the black mages songs are in the Bootleg option for the Soundtrack. You can download all the individual Soundtracks in TIFA'S PACKAGE and then mix-and-match what you like through FF7Music. This requires a little extra knowledge, but if you ask nicely, I will help with it.

 

[zherot]

The excuses you use to not to do a good explanation in your guide are garbage (I tried to start this nicely but you apparently like to be treated the hard way) , if its not there its bad designed, period, look at my operative system instalation guide example i say before, thats what you did with that step, supposing that the user knows how to use it is a very obvious mistake and a clear design flaw, you cant just make a tutorial suposing that the user knows how to do the procees already because then, what is the point of a guide.

I'm not trying to be an ass. I'm just pointing that out.

I really was trying to be nice but i cant stand sarcastic ... so if you dont want to help i dont need you, since you are the one who did the BAD DESIGNED tutorial in the first place...

I love this part:

Yes, clicking buttons without reading is why you messed up. My guide didn't do this.

Way to change subjet and put the blame on me... you take one sentence and take it out of context and then make a really stupid statement, I DID make that mistake BUT it HAS NOTHING to do with my particular question/problem on this topic, i say this because i was just talking how i finished my download and i accidentaly pressed that button, it was meant to be a funny coment of sort, it HAS NOTHING,  to do with the bad designed steps on the tutorial that made me uninstall the first time everything and make me create these topic, so, no, sorry the blame it still on you and your bad tutorial.


You are a controlling person that needs to be right and needs to be approved/respected by everyone else but you do nothing to deserve that respect, your big horse attitude really gets in your way because that way people will never going to respect you, you cant be told that you make a mistake because you do everything right, you never make mistakes and never accept them, then you know what, you dont learn nothing because making mistakes is the way humanity increases their knowledge, so bye mr perfect, if to have your crumbs of help i need to tolerate all that  then i dont want them. (in fact im already playing the game with the mods i did it without that converter step, and it was a trial/error, and if for some reason i find troubles in the future i will just try again)

I know that i did it wrong when i make some of my topics, i was angry/confused (thanks to your attempt of a tutorial), then i realised it and came back in a different attitude, yeah, i know i made a mistake... WOW, im better than you.

 

[Lionsmane]

lol jesus christ dude youre probably not gettin any help after that. Bootleg was made to streamline the modding process for people that didn't have the knowledge to install individual mods on their own. Before she even compiled her tutorial there were plenty of people that figured out how to run it on their own just from reading threads. I was one.

Now she has this awesome tutorial and faq that she compiled herself, for no other reason than to be considerate for people that still couldn't get it or didnt want to try, and you're

stillllll going to berate her, for something you can't figure out? It's not like she is on salary working customer service for this forum or some crap, you need to get it together. I wouldn't be surprised if you get banned now.

And you're not better than her by a long shot because she understood bootleg well enough, and how to collaborate with other human beings in an intelligent, considerate manner, to write a tutorial on it. You can't even figure it out with immense hand holding. 

 

[cmh175]

This looks like a troll. No one is this absolutely clueless and over reacts on those trying to help. I considered English maybe his second language so it could be a language barrier, but his poor grammar doesn't sound like someone who's still learning English. At this point it sounds like someone being an ass for the sake of being an ass. If you're really this lost than you need to chill out and look at EQ2Alyza directions again, there's nothing else to do.

[list type=decimal]
[*]Uninstall FF7Music (you probably haven't installed this yet, but just in case it shows in Control Panel).
[*]Uninstall Final Fantasy VII
[*]Clean all FF7 RegistryKeys with this: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ad2ttfhmdqmjd56/FF7-REMOVE-Keys.exe
[*]Install Final Fantasy VII to a non-system folder
[*]Rename an HDD or USB Flash Drive to FF7DISC1 or Mount the ISO from STEP 1.
[*]RUN FF7 Game Converter.
[*]Start at STEP 2.
[/list]

Otherwise I agree, he should be left to himself now and banishment wouldn't be a bad idea either.

 

[Lionsmane]

I would agree with you cmh but I've worked retail at a big electronics place and dealt with similar minded people whose second language was english. This guy kinda reminds me of that. My faith in humanity makes me wish he is a troll though.

 

[cmh175]

This could be true. I'm a Network Engineer and do a lot of hand holding. I've even had to explain (with ridiculous amounts of detail) how to find the downloads window in Google Chrome. I think I dead a little that day. At this point though no more help could be offered other than literally doing it for him with a remote shared desktop session. Troll or not though this behavior isn't acceptable, and I don't see anyone feeling that helpful at this point.

 

[zherot]

I dont know what to say really, i explained myself very clear about my question and some people got it others not.

You need to rethink on what you are saying, because im not a troll, i needed genuine help, but instead of helping me people like that person that made the poor tutorial instructions come with that bad attitude beign sarcastic with his high horse attitude, after i already calmed down and changed my attitude towards this situation i encountered, i was only pointing the clear errors and faults of the tutorial and he took it personal (and i explained why).

I said i was better than he because i did recognize that i make a mistake when i angered and let that poor tutorial take the best of me, yeah i realize it was not a very good way to ask for help, specially on the other post i have, but he is not going to recognize EVER that the tutorial needs to be more specific and clear in that particular step, and that just tells me everything i need to know about him.

Look how im answering to you, im not beign rude with you, because you are not beign that rude like he was in his last post, you are clearly his friends and want to cover his mistakes blaming all this on me, saying im going to be baned or i should be baned, maybe he is not a he and is a she and you want to look good to her , idk, but its clear that you are not beign impartial in this matter.

I know my first attitude was wrong and i accept it, what i dont accept is that someone after i changed my mind and changed my attitude starts to be then rude to me and treating my like garbage with sarcastic attitude and trying to put the blame on me making statements based on out of context sentences, he even moks in his high horse telling me to "ask nicely", who does he think he is... well i said what i have to say to him im not going to go further on this.

I will apoligize to everyone if  ever i offended you im sorry i know i did make wrong the first time, but i dont regret what i told to the guy that make the tutorial as a person and about his tutorial.

And if i get baned, i guess i really dont care its not like i live in this forum i just made the account to seek help, but i will probably will because guys like him dont tolerate anyone question them pointing out their mistakes or stand against them, dont care, this is not the first time i deal with guys like him, they have this "little" and pathetic feel of having "power" and they get nuts about it, it dosent matter it is just a thing as irrelevant as a forum moderator or anything they just think they are important and "GOT THE POWAAAA!!!" and no one can mess with them, really ridiculous people.

By the way i managed to get the blakc mages music in the Anxious Heart mod, that thing is great.


Tnx for the time and for the ones that DID tried to help me.

 

[zherot]

I would not bother answering to me because im leaving by myself (i mean it) there is no point in continue this disscusion, and i dont have the time or want to keep on this, so i will not read anything (you are warned you are wasting your time, like talking to a wall, but you will do it anyways since you have to proove "something" , so predictable =P).

Now with that clear im gone, bye!.

 

[Covarr]

There's an expression, "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." Next time I see an outburst directed at people who are trying to help, someone's getting moderated. For now, I'm closing this thread. ~Covarr