Trump & Clinton supporters: What is wrong with you?

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Tin foil hat time: does anyone feel like things would generally not change much no matter who gets elected?

There is so much money floating around, that it seems nearly impossible to curb its influence. I remember the Obama campaign, it was all about making change. He had my support because he made it seem like he was going to pop the artificially inflated industries caused by the war on drugs. In actuality, when he got into office the budgets for those programs actually increased. I'm not sure if that can be attributed to systematic lying or a real lack of influence that the president actually has.
 
A drastic change?  No.  But I think if we keep pecking at it here and there, making tiny baby dents, eventually something will give.
 
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Tin foil hat time: does anyone feel like things would generally not change much no matter who gets elected?
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I don't like how, in this society, stating the obvious truth is somehow considered taboo as if your some sort of wack job conspiracy nut.  I know its just a joke its just sad to me that you have to present this statement in this way.

A drastic change?  No.  But I think if we keep pecking at it here and there, making tiny baby dents, eventually something will give.
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This is unfortunately a flawed statement. This assumes that any damage you do to the system of inequality is not quickly repaired and reinforced on the other end faster than you can do any damage.  Not to say that trying is meaningless.  Look, in this system nobody likes to feel apathetic in the face of overwhelming odds.  Unfortunately nobody likes to go out on a limb and risk something precious either.  Therefore people fall behind causes that keep them from feeling apathetic, like what they support will make a difference, all the while not risking anything that would bring about a meaningful change.  We are all guilty of this, myself included, but being aware is the starting point.  The only thing that would really change this system is a system that works more efficiently.  One that can replace it, not fight against it.  There is no "ism" in existence that could classify what we need to become.  We would have to create a whole new paradigm.  Again this is contrary to our evolutionary instincts to avoid change so it is a slow and violent process.

Despite all my nay saying however I do believe change will come.  Just not through this corrupt sphere of socioeconomic political warfare.  It will happen in the realm of technologies that solve these problems more efficiently than they have ever been solved to date.  Unfortunately technology is advanced at a much faster rate than it is released to the public.  And many of the major contributors to technology today are looking only to advanced weaponry, not society.  Another major issue is that the vast majority of citizens don't really understand today's advanced technology and so those who do gain and almost unstoppable advantage.  Because of these factors there is a very real incentive to keep a lid on technology and only release it to the masses in small quantities so as not to the lose the grip of control on the masses.

So it comes down to only two obvious outcomes, we either reach a point of technological sophistication enough to feed all peoples, travel the stars and become a truly immortal species.  Or will die in the process of trying by destroying ourselves with our own inventions.  It really comes down to something quite simple and not technologically dependent.  It all depends on how mature this species really is or can become, and that is still sort of up in the air at this point.  I just advocate for people to put their hope in more practical solutions rather than those that have failed us time and again, and that by design will continue to fail.
 
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A drastic change?  No.  But I think if we keep pecking at it here and there, making tiny baby dents, eventually something will give.
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Any system tends towards an increase of entropy, not a decrease. Keep poking it and all we'll have is system full of holes that is unusable, but there is no replacement.
 
As a Scotsman, for the love of god don't vote Trump, he's already tried to turn Scotland into one big golf course, he'd only use the presidential influence to get the job done properly.
 
He's placed a massive amount of investment in Scotland.  I don't see that as a negative...  He's done more for you than Hillary ever will.
 
I'd just rather not be living in a sand trap on the fairway at the 296th hole
 
Judging by the results of super Tuesday, what was kind of a joke is now looking pretty serious. Trump could actually win this thing. Having stayed at various trump hotels, I will say this much, if he turns Scotland into a golf course, it will be pretty high end.
 
At least Trump takes security and the truth seriously.  The left don't.  That's why we're waking up more and more these days with bombings and death.  If the choice is between that and hurting the feelings of illegal immigrants and migrants - so be it.
 
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I hear Wikileaks might be about to crap all over Hilary with the wondrous emails she's been hiding.
 
I hear Wikileaks might be about to crap all over Hilary with the wondrous emails she's been hiding.
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I sincerely hope so.  I understand those that don't want Trump in charge - but I really really don't understand those that DO want her.
 
At least Trump takes security and the truth seriously.
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Security? Yes. The truth? No, not remotely. Almost everything he says is verifiably false, including frequent remarks about his own past statements.
 
He's the least politically correct politician there is, which automatically makes him the most truthful. I don't doubt he isn't perfect - but compared to the rest, he's a breath of fresh air.  If politicians and public figures were more truthful, Trump wouldn't have the support he does.  But, even now, most want to carry on sweeping issues under the carpet rather than tackle them. And then they turn around playing the race card or other ad hominem arguments to silence him.  They aren't taking ANY responsibility for their own failings. And they don't care.  I'm sure Obozo actually understands that, for example, Islam isn't a religion of peace - but he's far too busy pushing his face to the trough and bowing down to people who supply his party with money to care. 

This is seen in virtually all "democracies".  The guys at the top are setting laws that will never affect them, and they are not subject to the results of their own actions either.  That's why modern style democracy is another failure. It all stems from the fact that their power stems from the people, and the people are generally ignorant and easily molded by the media or state into a being a conformist automaton. It doesn't change until a particular situation becomes untenable - then suddenly there is revolution.  But if people weren't so thick or easily corrupted, it wouldn't come to that in the first place.
 
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Sanders has friendlier policies that don't benefit rich people and companies over us peasants most of the time but I don't think that makes him more 'truthful'. It just means he's a chill dood. Trump isn't as chill, but you don't know if he's truthful. Neither have any power to make action on their stances except bash the other guy on tv.
 
Sanders has friendlier policies that don't benefit rich people and companies over us peasants most of the time but I don't think that makes him more 'truthful'. It just means he's a chill dood. Trump isn't as chill, but you don't know if he's truthful. Neither have any power to make action on their stances except bash the other guy on tv.
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There are two reasons why Sanders won't win:
1) The Clinton family is connected to many of the liberal American news outlets, so most Americans don't know that Sanders is beating Hillary in the popular vote by a huge margin (as far as elections go).
2) Democrats don't want him to win, so they won't nominate him to be the democratic candidate.

Luckily, Democrats are so good at losing unlosable elections that they will nominate Hillary, which loses to Trump in virtually every poll you look at. So at the very least, we won't have Hillary unless she cheats to get elected.
 
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Isn't another problem that the democrats have super delegates who are all voting for her?
 
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