Trump & Clinton supporters: What is wrong with you?

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Isn't another problem that the democrats have super delegates who are all voting for her?
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The superdelegates don't actually mean anything unless neither candidate has enough normal delegates. They're just tiebreakers. Theoretically that is, because the whole process is total meaningless bullstrawberries anyway.
 
The election process made a lot more sense when there were a few hundred million less people. It didn't scale well to where we are now population/technology wise
 
I'd have liked to see Ben Carson win too - he seems like a nice dude who can bring people together. He's not as polarizing as Trump or Hillary (even though I like Trump ;) ) But I also hear he doesn't believe evolution and so on - and has made some pretty silly comments.

Still, he really strikes me as a nice person.  And at least he actually has a qualification in something meaningful.
 
I'll answer without actually knowing the other participant your éléction, I focus mainly has a Trump! Yesterday, my country suffers attrocités on Brussels, Donald Trump, rather than being the support to victims, and to encourage our country do the same struggle awful lot of countries in the world, was present to "draw a wall "with our country, I have no understand you if you vote for this moron! This is a divisive, racist and bring your country into a war on and some and not against Daesh but against a big part of our world at all! Never forget that a Muslim is a Muslim and a terrorist is a terrorist (he does not bat in the name of their religion but in the name of an ideology) terrorists are tiny parts of the world, then think before to vote for a fascist! You will bring us an American Hitler! Your country is based on a multitude of nationality, must be pure strain that does not exist currently US home ... Never forget! Like many European, I have an American dream, because for me it is the most beautiful country in the world! But in these conditions, it will become one of the most horrible.

Sorry for my English, I have never learned the language.
Good day to all :)
 
It isn't divisive or racist to protect your own country.  Your country (like my country) is insane, and allows people in unchecked and then wonders why it is blown to bits. Not just that - it does nothing to address the reasons these people (often their "own citizens") do what they do - the life of Muhammad (a man who plundered and conquered).  All your politicians care about is sweeping problems under the carpet and hoping it will all go away.  Japan has one of the most strict Visa systems in the world.  Try going there without a job and see what happens. No-one calls them racist.

The government's first duty is to its OWN PEOPLE.  Trump wants to ban Muslims from outside the US until he is satisfied there is no security risk.  Do you think it's ok to allow migrants or other non-profiled Muslims in from abroad and then hope they don't cause mayhem? Are you prepared to take responsibility for such a reckless decision?  Because I'm not. Japan doesn't suffer this nonsense - and nor do many nations - because they put their own safety above political correctness.

Also, Islam is not a race.  This is nothing to do with colour.  It is everything to do with followers of a death cult.  More power to Trump that he wants proper controls in place - and wants to seal off Mexico to stop illegal immigrants who, by and large, are bound to impact negatively on the economy - and on crime levels.

Some of us are fed up of political correctness, do-gooders, the race card, and leftism entirely. People like you are, unfortunately, a problem.  You'll keep shouting racist and doing nothing - and eventually people will turn to someone far worse than Trump because they are being ignored.  You reap what you sow.
 
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Confirm profile is quite normal, but not talking about criminal profile and others, only Muslim! I am not a Muslim, to be honest I'm even atheist, so I defend any religion, but in relation to dismiss a Muslim, it is not correct at all ... China's political e l considers also quite satisfactory either, if I recall canada do the same thing about work. This is something normal! And I would see this win here, but never rejected a Muslim because he is a Muslim, it would come to say that we must reject blind because he can not see anything? A disabled because it no longer works? Or can be simply tolerated only blond with blue eyes? I have a father in a wheelchair! A guy who is courageous and who would do anything to serve his country if he had rights, in France I see the FN that grew in strength, here in Belgium, I also expected, recalled our past ... and you stop these stupid things ... We're human first!
 
When the IRA were going around blowing people up in Britain, we profiled Irish people.  It wasn't racist - it was sane. America doesn't owe you anything.  It doesn't HAVE TO do anything.  Its people decide whether they are willing to allow anyone to enter.  That's their prerogative - and you have no right to anything outside of your own country.

If you want to take responsibility for any carnage that ensues from open border policy - be my guest.  Just leave that philosophy in your own country.

Human first?  So what?  I couldn't give a monkey's.  I care about innocent humans - not would be killers.  It's about time we had someone with some balls to say NO MORE.
 
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many radicals are rejected your security. I do not at all share your opinion .. Madness brings madness. In fact, the bombing of Paris . C was a resident of the country since its birth.
 
That's only partially true.  One of them was certainly not from France. Islam has its own law.  Muslims follow Muhammad's example, so where they are born is largely irrelevant, especially when your country does nothing to address the issues that exist. Virtually all Muslim countries have serious internal issues, especially regarding basic freedoms.

I don't share your opinion because thousands have died because of it.  I don't have any blood of innocent people on my hands - directly or indirectly. I wouldn't have had an open border policy - and my country would have been better for it.  If your country wasn't so tolerant to the intolerant, you'd also be better for it.

Just don't be surprised that the Right are on the rise, or that many people start to shift their opinions because they are tired of seeing body parts.  :)
 
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I don't particularly like Morgan (and he wouldn't vote for Trump - at least not before), but it's still a decent article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-time-started-listening-seriously-Trump.html


and so is this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...error-simply-new-normal-t-afford-stay-it.html

Until then you can draw cartoons, light up the Eiffel Tower, start a hashtag and carry on catching the Underground all you want. You can even pretend you are standing up to the suicide bombers. You can even make out Islam is the religion of peace, as Channel 4 do on a nightly basis.
The Managing Editor of Channel 4 News tweeted me last night, asking if I would share a picture of the people of Belgium chalking words of defiance in the public square as if they were all suddenly infantilised by their impotence.
I refused.
Because, you see, you are not standing up to terror. You are normalising it. Giving it a shiny coat. Pretending it's all going to be OK because we know what to do when bad stuff happens.
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This is basically totally unrelated, but it is my all time favorite Piers Morgan interview relating to American policy.


Edit: Does anyone know the gun control policies between trump/clinton/bernie?
 
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Trump is pro constitution in every way where guns are concerned. He also carries a gun with him at all times - and rightly so in his profession.  Trump wants concealed carry permits in all 50 states.

Bernie wants a lot more restrictions.  I could have guessed that without looking :P

Clinton wants restrictions. But she is not against them as much as Bernie is.
 
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Makes sense, I would be packing some heat too if I talked as much strawberrys as Trump, especially about Mexican drug cartels.

Have you guys taken one of these: https://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz
It asks your opinions on all the big political issues, then tells you which candidate you actually side with. It is amazing how uninformed a lot of voters are, a lot of people vote just based on which personality they like/how religious they are.

Utah evidently loves Ted Cruz -- I wonder why.
 
Mine came back 86% in favour of Trump, 80% with Cruz, 41% with Killary, and 24% with the commie Sanders.

Issues me and Donald disagree on:

1. I believe in gun control for the mentally ill and criminals.
2. I believe children should be required to be vaccinated.
3. I do not believe those on welfare should be subject to drug tests.
4. I believe people on no fly list should be banned from guns and ammo.
5. I believe the government should fund space travel.  I take this stance because I am well aware of the contributions to science NASA makes as a result of it. I think Donald is thinking of this in the rigid terms of "hand outs". A lot of people fail to see the massive contributions we gain in other areas because of this - especially aviation technology.
 
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Issues me and Donald disagree on:

1. I believe in gun control for the mentally ill and criminals.
2. I believe children should be required to be vaccinated.
3. I do not believe those on welfare should be subject to drug tests.
4. I believe people on no fly list should be banned from guns and ammo.
5. I believe the government should fund space travel.  I take this stance because I am well aware of the contributions to science NASA makes as a result of it. I think Donald is thinking of this in the rigid terms of "hand outs". A lot of people fail to see the massive contributions we gain in other areas because of this - especially aviation technology.
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I would have a really hard time talking to someone who was against all of those things. What kind of society would we have if everyone felt this way?

1. The most dangerous group of people should definitely have guns
2. Everyone has polio at Disney Land
3. Nobody who would genuinely benefit from welfare would get it
4. Definitely give watched criminals guns
5. Space is stupid and expensive, let's not even bother

That kind of world sounds really dumb to me, I'd prob move to Canada
 
I understand his stance on guns - he believes in total freedom (assuming that site is correct) there because of the possibility of corruption by government to curtail freedom.  I disagree with total freedom on that issue.

He's not happy with giving state money away, whereas I am a little more lenient .  Not totally - we agree on many of the other things.  I am against Obamacare in its current form - and Obamacare will only get more socialist.  NHS over here is much the same. A good idea that's being abused and always has been abused.

On other issues, though, I believe he's spot on.  I find Sanders and Hillary's view of allowing thousands of unvetted migrants into the country appalling - the same I do with no true mexican border. 

The one thing I totally disagree with him on is drug tests for those on welfare.  You can't go around testing innocent people because they are poor.  That's a violation too far, even for me  :-D  But that would never be allowed anyway.

But clearly, we will disagree on certain issues with every politician.  86% will do for me :P
 
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Hmmm I wonder if this kind of tolerance and liberal love-in could have something to do with the problems Belgium experiences.  I wonder.....

2014:
Two Muslim politicians, who just won municipal elections in Belgium's capital, Brussels, on October 14, have vowed to
implement Islamic Sharia law in Belgium.
The two candidates, Lhoucine Aït Jeddig and Redouane Ahrouch, both from the fledgling Islam Party, won seats in two heavily Islamized municipalities of Brussels, Molenbeek-Saint-Jean and Anderlecht, respectively.
During a post-election press conference in Brussels on October 25, the two future councilors, who will be officially sworn in on December 3, said they regard their election as key to the assertion of the Muslim community in Belgium.
"We are elected Islamists but above all we are Muslims," Ahrouch said. "Islam is compatible with the laws of the Belgian people. As elected Muslims, we embrace the Koran and the tradition of the Prophet Mohammed. We believe Islam is a universal religion. Our presence on the town council will give us the opportunity to express ourselves," said Ahrouch, who refuses to shake hands or make eye contact with females in public.
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You see, the issue is this: Islam is not a religion of peace, and it is not going to go away.  As soon as it has enough followers, the host laws are changed - either through the vote or through violence - though usually by both (this has been seen through history numerous times). It all comes down to numbers. If you allow a disgusting ideology to spread - then it will. I think what most on the left forget is that Hitler didn't go away by appeasement or by hope.  He and his conquering ideology had to be fought and, by the time everyone realized that, it claimed around 50 million lives. He was also elected.

It isn't clever or nice or enlightened to tolerate something that is the most intolerant ideology mankind has ever known. Sooner or later, people will wake up to this reality.  But it seems we need a lot more arms and legs to be detached before the penny drops.  Belgium is being conquered at an alarming rate - go and look online at what is going on there.  And in large parts of France too.  Not to mention here in Britain.  Made even worse by Merkel, who sees no issue in inviting over ONE MILLION migrants into her country completely and utterly unvetted.

What kind of crazy lunatics do we have governing us? And when will people start to realize their children's future is at stake?
 
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Tribalism

You see, the issue is this: Islam is not a religion of peace, and it is not going to go away.  As soon as it has enough followers, the host laws are changed - either through the vote or through violence - though usually by both (this has been seen through history numerous times).
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That is unfair and bias; <Insert Group Here> has done it also. Lets just look at how the English have done this to countless cultures and on just about every content of the planet...

Tribalism has no place in our world any longer. We as a species can do better then bickering with one another.
 
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Sanders has friendlier policies that don't benefit rich people and companies over us peasants most of the time but I don't think that makes him more 'truthful'. It just means he's a chill dood. Trump isn't as chill, but you don't know if he's truthful. Neither have any power to make action on their stances except bash the other guy on tv.
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I say he's more truthful because he has a rock solid voting record, he has never changed his stance on any of his major issues, he is not beholden to lobbyists and superpacs, and has no qualms stating things that are true but you never hear a politician say (such as [paraphrased]"I cannot fix all the problems we face, and I probably won't be able to implement all the changes I am pushing for; but at least I can get it started")
 
commie Sanders.
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in what world is bernie a communist? I'm assuming you just don't like him because he's a socialist. We all know how evil socialism is, what with our highway system, free public education system, police, firefighter, emergency medical response services, public transportation systems, and our military all being entirely socialist. We should go back to the days of dirt roads and 15% high school graduation rates, right?
 
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