8.9 Earthquake causes Tsunami to hit Japan

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Lol, yeah to everything you said.  I've had to take several Statistics courses and several Research/Experimental courses, and it truly is outrageous the ways in which data can be manipulated.  Unfortunately, this realization defeats the purpose of looking to data to answer questions to begin with - at least in cases where some form of personal gain is involved.  Here we have a dependent variable of "safety", but safety, in this case, has been defined as Not Dying.
 
Basically for events where we have a wide range of unique situations with unique variables, the averages mean nothing, something, or everything depending on which of these situations you are in.  The averages certainly mean something to those of us flying from NY to LA, as you mentioned, or those driving to the grocery store and back.  The averages mean little or nothing when you are driving through the cliffs of India with no guardrails in the middle of the summer heat.  Indeed, the above circumstances could be a major contributory factor to the statistics in question (40 deaths per billion total, but 30 of them are in the cliffs of India during the summer) in which case those engaging in 'average' type trips are even safer than the statistics would seem to indicate.  In order to have truly reliable and valid statistics (at least for issues involving billions of trips, millions of deaths, dozens of types of transportation, thousands of variables), the data would have to be dissected and analyzed to the point of impracticality.  And even then, to echo the words of a wise seer "It's not like the gods are sitting up on Mt. Olympus saying "OK, it has been 65 million years since the last mass extinction; the next one is due on Thursday. Make sure it isn't late; these things have to happen exactly so often!", but let's not forget the words of another prophet "...but we know that certain events have happened before, when they happened before, and can estimate that events of that type occur, on average, every x number of years."
 
Well, you're really quick :P I was reading your PM and you just posted in here... How could you manipulate these stats, this is simple : tell 'em.........
 
Actually planes are more unsafe than cars.  I know you have been led to believe otherwise but aviation uses hours and distance you travel and not the journey number.  By journey number this is the death toll:

Deaths per billion journeys
Bus: 4.3
Rail: 20
Van: 20
Car: 40
Foot: 40
Water: 90
Air: 117
Bicycle: 170
Motorcycle: 1640

You are 3X more likely to die on plane.


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My alias is not "guy", it is Kemlin. Here are the statistics I used to formulate my opinion:

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

The number of driving fatalities on American roads, each year, since 1994. About 30,000 a year. Meanwhile, here is a quote stating the number of aviation deaths for the years 2006-2007:

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/ntsb_fatalities_aviation_decrease_199023-1.html

About 600 a year on average, and unless I am mistaken, I somewhat doubt this number has equaled the number of deaths from vehicular accidents in years prior or since.

I imagine you were attempting to argue that, overall, cars are safer than flying. I will grant you this point, and I never suggested otherwise. However, it is also totally alien to the point I was attempting to make: The occurrence of a major incident (The plane going down) far outweighs the importance from a series of minor incidents (Car wrecks). The focus, ideally, would be on what kills more people overall and the causes of the accidents leading to those deaths. Instead, sensationalism and rarity of the incident trumps the reality.
 
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What!? My ultimate Tsunami plan failed! How could this be! I planned to kill Qhimm by this method, then take over the forum Muhahaha...But alas thats what I get for ordering parts from Wallmart to build a "rift generator" :(

Back to the old drawing board...

Cupcake you-be-nice.

I apologize for him Kudi he has been off his med's for days. For anyone keeping track this thread is now Airplanes vs People.
 
Oh geez you didn't need to change the name of this thread LOL. I was kidding.
 
I couldn't help myself :P

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I would pay to see a show like that.
 
I think we can all agree that the real threat is snakes on a plane.
Now let’s talk about earthquakes or make a new thread for flaming each other.


L. Spiro
 
I think we can all agree that the real threat is snakes on a plane.
Now let’s talk about earthquakes or make a new thread for flaming each other.


L. Spiro
Taken care of.  Are we really defacing a thread about a current world tragedy?  Tsk Tsk Tsk.
 
My room shook violently enough that I evacuated it, but nothing was knocked off shelves or my refrigerator.
Undoubtedly more will follow, closer to Tokyo.


L. Spiro
 
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