*ANOTHER* FFX pc post...

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What are you talking about Joey!?
FFX wont contain FFVIII citys. Maybe some by the same name(Maybe) but no the real citys!And how was FFIX FFVII based? Yo umean how the characters look? We look again. They look cartoonish in FFIX but they look twice as good as FFVIIs ones.

And many magazines said the graphics to FFVIII were good. The back grounds and the 640/480 res limit they complained about but the FMV and Battles they sad looked good. Get your facts right....
 
I'm sure the game have said that the Weapons are created for dealing with Jenova and getting lotsa lifestreams. And I don't remember that Planet won't heal before Jenova die completely. But it's been 2 years and maybe I forgot that one. My depressing ending not only come from viewing the ending movie, but also the  other hints here and there. Anyway yes, most of this argument is purely hypothetical only.
Red 13 is not human. It have 4 legs, a tail, sharp claws and fangs, red furs and don't age much too. It resemble much more like a tiger than a human to me. How about you?
 
Joey, you haven't played FFVII, and you know the graphics are poor?  Wait, thats not quite as much of a sin as NOT PLAYING FINAL FANTASY VII!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The knocking you hear is a rabid Scott at your door.  You deserve punishment for this sin; a copy of FFVII is around his neck. :wink:Whoa! That winking face looks EEEEEEEEEVIL!
 
MMiller right as i read the scottish thing i was listening to bagpipes  :) .. he he he... oh and Shut up Joey...
 
Scott is his name; sorry for the confusion. For referance, read my post 'stretching the meaning of the word General'.  Scott is Italian.[This message has been edited by MMiller8 (edited June 13, 2001).]
 
I think FF7 graphics are real good. I was surprised at the battle graphics when I first tried out the demo....I remember all the hype about FF7. I also remember my view of console type games at the time. I always considered myself a computer player....Always thought that consoles were for kids...all action, no strategy. I always thought that Consoles were the home for games like Basketball, Football, Punch-out, Mortal Combat, etc... So I would see "FF7 PC" on the shelf and "Mortal Combat PC", sitting next to it, both Console ports; and just pass them on by. You see, I thought FF7 was a fighting game, like Mortal Comabat, I had no idea. Not even a clue what it really was.

I picked up Eidos', "Thief", instead. After a couple of weeks of playing Thief, I figured I would look at the Demo Disk that came with the game. I still have the Demo CD. Comes with a few games and a few movies. Two of the games on that 'Vol 1 Eidos Demo Disk' (I wonder if it's worth anything since it Vol 1?) are Final Fantasy Battle and Field demos. After playing about 30 seconds of the Battle demo, I thought to myself, this isn't too bad for a fighting game, but seems too boring to buy it just for this.  Then I tried the Field game. It's a cutout from FF7 where you learn Barrets past. I was stunned. I bought FF7 that same day, and never regreted it (it was only 30 dollars anyway...I passed it up for a long time!). I was even more stunned when I found out that I just bought a game with four whole Cd's in it! When I hit that thing in Disk 1.....I had to pause the game...'cause I was too sad/shocked, to fight Jenova...... :). That is why FF7 is considered and remembered as the best RPG. FF7 broke the mold for Console sterotype games, for me. And I'm sure I'm not alone in this thinking. Come to think of it....I still haven't played a PC game that grabs you like FF does, when it comes to an emotional story. (even though the actual conversion of the game is fair, at best.)

I now consider Square RPG games as the best games, out there. FF7 started my intrest in Square games. Hmmm....also Japan's style of animation, come to think of it. Then again maybe the Cartoon network had a big play on the animation part....

I just completed Crono Cross (and triggered the CronoTrigger).....and it's damn good game, too. I like the story (it get deep towards the end, if you don't mess up in the end....I had to search the web for the order....), and in a wierd way, it has some replay value. The only thing I don't like is that the game feels 'empty' between the main plot. I don't know how else to explain it. Guess it has too many playable characters and it takes something away, from the story. That's why I like Final Fantasy....It doesn't feel as empty as other games. It seems to come to life. It's more like a interactive book or something.


BTW:
...after seeing CC's battle engine. I'm going to guess that FFX's battle engine is going to be very simular. It kinda more statigic (but gets repetitious and boring, during non-boss battles). I remember rumors from FF10, that the battles were going have more strategy in them. CC also has no leveling (well...it does, but they don't show you a real level# per say), I think FF10 is said to have no leveling, either. So I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that CC's Battle engine is going to be in FF10.... (I wonder if I'm even close.)
 
Whill someone please explain to me just WHAT THE HELL Kojiro is talking about? :-?
 
Interesting topic. I might make a late entry into the discussion.  :) These are the type of things that Terence seems to thrive on. I'm surprised he hasn't posted in this thread. We've discussed some of these things in the Remake forum already, and he's been most helpful.Anyway...
MMiller8: I hope I'm wrong, but it sounds like KojiroTakenashi's referring to all those "FF7 was unfinished" rumors (which are untrue, btw). They usually go hand in hand with the equally untrue "Aeris Revival" rumors.
 
Whew... for a second there I thought I had purchased a bootleg copy!**Just kidding. :P
 
No, it's not a rumour.
It really was never finished.
Aeris could not be revived, however you could go into part of the quest in the Japanese version, albeit only 1/4 into it.
Remember. FF7 was rushed because there were tons of obsessed, demanding otaku outside Square offices. If you missed those news stories in magazines and such, I pity you.
So, the game was rushed, thus alot of it *is* unfinished. Aeris really would have been revived, and if you buy the sorry excuse that it's important she died, check this. It stated that Holy would be summoned if a person made CONTACT with the planet. If Aeris was to die, she would be JOINING the planet, or RETURNING to it, not simply making CONTACT.
*makes a ton of points at once*
Another thing is that during the cut-scene where it tells you how Cloud-head ended up with the Buster Sword, if you look at Midgar, the plate has already crashed down. Now you tell me how it could have crashed down killing all below it and totally junking an entire sector BEFORE Cloud even got there!
There are more, but I don't really feel like going into them unless you really want to hear it.
Zack, btw, CAN be found alive and well. I got a reply from Square stating that Zack can't be "recruited" as in joining the party. They didn't say anything else, though. I have heard of ways to get Zack to just talk to him alittle. It doesn't do much for the story, though. Kinda like whether or not Cid in FF6 dies or not. It's just a neat little thing they threw in there ^^
 
Kojiro, those rumours about the game being unfinished are kind of the same as the rumours about being able to resurrect Aeris. Pretty much everybody knows: You can't. Most people here will have heard rumours like that many, many times before.*Anybody* can post a controversial claim on a message board. Unless you're willing to back it up, your claim is just the same as every other unsubstantiated rumour.

For example; you say you can find Zack alive and well. Umm? That's very easily checked by searching all the text in the game (it can be done for both PSX and PC versions); if you want to go away and tell us which location file this happens in, we can check it and then say, "Look, that guy was right."

I don't really want to shoot down somebody who's only just arrived on the message board, but please: If you're going to post something controversial *do* give some supporting evidence for it. That way, people won't just think you're a troll.
 
I never noticed a plate being distroyed....I'm guessing your talking about the flashback that is easily missed. The one where you have to go to the basement in Nib. on disk 2, when Cloud comes back to your party. The one with Zack? Whenever I play the game again, I'll look for it. And if I think your wrong........I'll be sure to state it. But I don't plan on playing FF7 for a long while. (Anyway I already pointed out some errors in the FMVs). As for it being unfinished? Maybe....but I don't think it was the ending that is unfinished....it's more like disk 2 than Disk 3. Disk 2 has a rushed feeling, to me. Just a bunch of foozle missions. Go get this stone, go get that stone, go find this key..... Disk 1 wasn't like that. I feel the ending is exactly what they wanted. An alternate ending was probably written, but never put in the game. Those mirrors in the Ancient City has always puzzled me and so has that matera fountain that is behind Nib. I never seen that ghost thing that people say they see.....I don't see anything in that Church...on disk 2 or 3 besides those two kids....not even for a brief second before the stuff gets loaded on the screen....never seen anything that looks like Aeris.
 
Threesisty the ghoust is there. Just go into the church on disk three after not hhaving been there since disk one. Just go in and look at the flowers. Shes there. Dont move close or else she will disapear. Now can you talk to the ghoust at all you think?
No. In the debug room there is a portal that takes you to behind Aeris ghoust and since you dont triger here to disapear you are free to try and talk to her all you want. But nothing comes of it.
 
the partwhen the ghost says somethiing was left out, im not sure if its still in the field files, ur free to have a look.
she says something about cloud to cloud  :P
 
Alright I had a good look thought the files with consmo I think. I looked at a hellava lot of text but I didnt see much strange stuff. Any one know an easyer way of navigateing it all? Rather than just picking a file out of the loads of them and hopeing?Thanls.
 
No it's not  :)

I'm not the mod of this forum so what makes you think I'm sending out a warning?
 
You can use Search/Replace to search all the files in Cosmo for some text.Plus, if you hold down [Control] while clicking on the Search button, Cosmo dumps the text from all the game files into TXT files in the Cosmo folder; then you can search them using whatever tool (Windows Find Files, Word, etc) you want.
 
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