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GTFO FAGGOT
Oh my... so very, very rude.
You think I really give a sh*t?  GTFO, you've caused us enough problems, I don't care if you've turned over a new leaf.  GTFO f*ckface
No, I think maybe you're just butthurt or something from what I had said in the past.  I never really caused any severe problems. 
YOU, on the other-hand, are very rude!  Hmph!
Yeahno, not very butthurt at all.  I just have a severe dislike for trolls, being a former troll myself.  It's not a matter of whether or not you caused me problems, but you caused these forums problems.  Especially since there are several people here that I would actually consider friends.  I guess you could say you've caused me problems via proxy.  As far as me being rude, f*ck you, I don't give a flying f*ck.  Even if you did turn over a new leaf, you had your chances here, sorry, but them's the breaks in my opinion, once you f*ck up and get banned, you're banned, all past, and future accounts.  There are some people here, and I won't name names, that I feel shouldn't be on the forums.  I talk to these people on IRC, and I have no problem with them being on the IRC, but because they have caused problems on the forums, they shouldn't be allowed on it.

EDIT: and now at Mako's request, I'm going to stop being an abrasive dickbag.
 
....errrr... k, gaiz, thanks for putting my "trolling" into perspective, I guess.

I am facepalming here, btw.

To mods and admins; would you kindly - you have played Bioshock, haven't you? - not close the thread yet?

I quite want to reply to both Covarr and Mako, but I'm having too much fun with Fallout: New Vegas to dig up my IRC logs right now. And I don't really see a point of opening a new thread for it, either.

Don't close this one yet? Pretty please?
 
....errrr... k, gaiz, thanks for putting my "trolling" into perspective, I guess.

I am facepalming here, btw.

To mods and admins; would you kindly - you have played Bioshock, haven't you? - not close the thread yet?

I quite want to reply to both Covarr and Mako, but I'm having too much fun with Fallout: New Vegas to dig up my IRC logs right now. And I don't really see a point of opening a new thread for it, either.

Don't close this one yet? Pretty please?
Oh yes, I'm with Jari, I want to see what Fox News tactics he uses, and what logs he posts out of context to appear to be in his favor.
 
....errrr... k, gaiz, thanks for putting my "trolling" into perspective, I guess.

I am facepalming here, btw.

To mods and admins; would you kindly - you have played Bioshock, haven't you? - not close the thread yet?

I quite want to reply to both Covarr and Mako, but I'm having too much fun with Fallout: New Vegas to dig up my IRC logs right now. And I don't really see a point of opening a new thread for it, either.

Don't close this one yet? Pretty please?
Oh yes, I'm with Jari, I want to see what Fox News tactics he uses, and what logs he posts out of context to appear to be in his favor.
Be prepared for some heavy sliced up logs folks stay tuned! Example: Jari is not cool for hurting Mako.
>Jari is cool -Mako

Just sayin'
 
....errrr... k, gaiz, thanks for putting my "trolling" into perspective, I guess.

I am facepalming here, btw.

To mods and admins; would you kindly - you have played Bioshock, haven't you? - not close the thread yet?

I quite want to reply to both Covarr and Mako, but I'm having too much fun with Fallout: New Vegas to dig up my IRC logs right now. And I don't really see a point of opening a new thread for it, either.

Don't close this one yet? Pretty please?
Oh yes, I'm with Jari, I want to see what Fox News tactics he uses, and what logs he posts out of context to appear to be in his favor.
Be prepared for some heavy sliced up logs folks stay tuned! Example: Jari is not cool for hurting Mako.
>Jari is cool -Mako

Just sayin'
Jari is the Glenn Beck of Qhimm.  Crazy, full of stupid theories, and....well a fucking retard.
 
Well, i haven't been very active on the forum lately only occasionally looking around.

@Obesebear: I never really saw anything wrong with how strict you were. It actually forced me to pay attention to the rules more, rather than skip over them and go straight to posting like I usually did. Still, if you feel you were too harsh, have at it. I'm glad you felt you needed to change yourself.

Concerning Jari: WTH? This is the awesome admin that everyone liked? Damn. I knew he was a troll to Hermoor, I just didn't realize he was a troll all together. I expected something better. Oh well, I learned something new today, so yay for me!
 
Is there like an Anti-Qhimm headquarters or something? Or do some people possess an Idiot Sense that begins to tingle when there are pointless arguements taking place somewhere on the internet?  Can't this be contained to PMs?  I mean, these people seem to be some form of emotionally stunted verbal exhibitionists or something.

 
Is there like an Anti-Qhimm headquarters or something? Or do some people possess an Idiot Sense that begins to tingle when there are pointless arguements taking place somewhere on the internet?  Can't this be contained to PMs?  I mean, these people seem to be some form of emotionally stunted verbal exhibitionists or something.
I have a theory about what is really going on here...
 
Is there like an Anti-Qhimm headquarters or something? Or do some people possess an Idiot Sense that begins to tingle when there are pointless arguements taking place somewhere on the internet?  Can't this be contained to PMs?  I mean, these people seem to be some form of emotionally stunted verbal exhibitionists or something.

Ahh, but if we kept it to ourselves, we wouldn't be able to put it on display for everybody to enjoy
 
my respect for Jari before he left = 89%

respect for Jari now = 1%

if you say your gonna leave at least stick to your convictions, coming in here and trying to piss everyone off makes you look like a TOTAL dick.

and nothing, no matter what you respond with, will change that in any way.
 
So, Jari, it's taking you quite a while to edit those IRC logs.  This should be fun.
 
if you say your gonna leave at least stick to your convictions, coming in here and trying to piss everyone off makes you look like a TOTAL d*ck.
I know it's "Let's hate Jari" day today, but he was called out before he came here. I'm sure Bosola wasn't trying to cause trouble, but it was an obvious reference to what happened when Jari left and something that, if it were aimed at me, I would have responded to.
 
if you say your gonna leave at least stick to your convictions, coming in here and trying to piss everyone off makes you look like a TOTAL d*ck.
I know it's "Let's hate Jari" day today, but he was called out before he came here. I'm sure Bosola wasn't trying to cause trouble, but it was an obvious reference to what happened when Jari left and something that, if it were aimed at me, I would have responded to.
But there was no reason for him to be such a dick when he responded.  Now he's just getting ridic in calling out Mako and Covarr, two people who are quite possible the most benign and neutral people around here.
 
But there was no reason for him to be such a d*ck when he responded.  Now he's just getting ridic in calling out Mako and Covarr, two people who are quite possible the most benign and neutral people around here.
I won't go into the Mako situation; I know far too little about it. However, it's ridic to say that Jari called out Covarr; it was the other way around.
 
But there was no reason for him to be such a d*ck when he responded.  Now he's just getting ridic in calling out Mako and Covarr, two people who are quite possible the most benign and neutral people around here.
I won't go into the Mako situation; I know far too little about it. However, it's ridic to say that Jari called out Covarr; it was the other way around.
Mako situation in a nutshell: Jari is convinced that Mako is not a real person, despite a crapton of evidence saying she's a real person.
 
i don't know whats happened in the past, nor do i give to sh*ts, for as long as i've known, Mako has been one of the nicest people here i've met. i have alot of respect for her. so if anyones going around trying to cause issues over it, they need to stop smoking whatever it is they're smoking.
 
Mako situation in a nutshell: Jari is convinced that Mako is not a real person, despite a crapton of evidence saying she's a real person.
Actually, no. What I am convinced of is that Mako and Master Aden are one and the same person, or possibly two people; either a girlfriend/boyfriend or wife/husband (take your pick, she certainly has changed her stories...) team. There most certainly is a female in that team. Whether she works alone is another matter. Or maybe she is just a front - but certainly her domain belongs to a female.

Well, here's the log. It is - of course - entirely unedited, except that the IP-addresses of people joining, quitting and being disconnected have been removed. Since those seem to be a big deal to some people. If you suspect that it's been edited in some other way, please do ask any of the other people present if they log the channel.

A short preface; I think this was the first time Mako came to the channel, and for the first hour the conversation had nothing out of the ordinary.

Then this happened: the log.

I got a really weird vibe from that. Out of the blue she brought up a really obscure troll, which even I had forgotten - and I'm pretty sure everyone else had, as well. How would she even know about this person? Why would she bring him up? More to the point; I got the impression that it was almost like she was bragging about how Master Aden had made me quit - from the safety of a new user account. Sort of like arsonists like to return to the scene.

That is actually what got me curious about the whole thing. So, I did some digging.

It turned out that she and Master Aden post not only from the same geographical location, but also use the same ISP. Then I noticed that a whole bunch of accounts on different sites, and email addresses registered to those accounts seemed to tie these accounts to a single source.

And then I noticed the curious typing quirk shared by these accounts; they both occasionally - more often when agitated - start a paragraph with a variable amount of empty spaces.

   Like this.

See for yourself; compare Master Aden's posts to Mako's posts.

After that I questioned her about it, and she changed her story from Master Aden being an acquaintance to him being her husband and later on to her boyfriend.

Anyway. My point was that she seems to be again gloating about how she made me quit. Well, that's what she thinks, anyway. It's the very same thing that happened in IRC, that night.


I do not care one bit whether you believe them to be the same person, or persons. Or whether you simply believe that being nice now is all that matters. Neither concern me. What I do care about is that now I am even more sure that Mako indeed is Master Aden. And that's all - I am very much vindicated. Rather similar to feeling to when Qhimm finally admitted - after me yanking his chain for quite a bit :P - that even he thinks they indeed are one and the same.


Right, I was planning on replying to some posts, too.

If I'm in the "Told you so"-position, then yes, yes I do. :)
Do you even realize how immature this stance is? This is how 8-year-olds behave, and it should be embarrassing that you do as well.
Happy 8-year-old reporting for duty, sir!

*waves*

 :)


Assuming you are correct and a normal, balanced person would shrug your replies off, and assuming you don't consider them to be normal and balanced, that would mean that you expected them to respond in a manner similar to how they did. If this is the case, then logically you WERE trying to get a negative reaction. It doesn't matter how you look at it, you were deliberately trying to incite trouble. And as I said before, in this way you are no different from hermoor.
I don't really see myself responsible for their mental health.


You've mentioned hypocrisy multiple times. You haven't clarified, but I'm guessing you mean that Mako and DLPB have no place to call you out for your behavior. To this, I have two responses:
1. Whether or not they're guilty of misbehaving in the past has no bearing on the fact that they're right. You are trying to start a sh*tstorm, regardless of what other people have done. Man up and stop deflecting.
2. Looking strictly at the present, you are the only person behaving like an ass right now. In the past few months, they have been nothing but pleasant, whereas you have openly mocked and insulted the members and management of this forum both here and in the IRC channel. The past has no bearing on the fact that right now you are causing trouble and they are not.
1. Nope. I am having fun on their expense, of course. Because I don't see how they could really afford to be very judgmental. So, you indeed did read my meaning right. I am not trying to incite anyone, however. If they themselves fly off the handle... well, that is not my problem.

2. Only commenting the part about me mocking and insulting members and management. Indeed - I do not hold the current management in very high respect, and I tend to speak my mind. Guilty as charged. :)


Umm, what I said doesn't prove anything. I don't believe for a second that Mako is masteraden, but the point I was making is that even if she was it does not matter.
And I don't care. Trust me. I'm not seeking to change anyone's opinion, or to be some kind of hero in the eyes of the people, or something bizarre like that. It's quite enough for me that I know they are the one and the same. Whether you share that opinion, or whether you care about it... neither concern me.
 
This is fantasic! This is what you have? this is your evidence? This proves that there are two people...you are embarrassing and the log is heavily edited. I just didn't come out like that, there was a phone call that lasted for a bit...

Jari you have sunk to an all time low, I hope you enjoyed it. It really don't prove much.
 
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I got a really weird vibe from that. Out of the blue she brought up a really obscure troll, which even I had forgotten - and I'm pretty sure everyone else had, as well. How would she even know about this person? Why would she bring him up? More to the point; I got the impression that it was almost like she was bragging about how Master Aden had made me quit - from the safety of a new user account. Sort of like arsonists like to return to the scene.
If she knew him IRL, and he TOLD her what he'd done (or even implied it), this is neither out of the blue, nor surprising that they'd know each other. Additionally, if they were indeed dating, it is no surprise that they would be in the same geographic area, possibly even the same IP at times if one or both of them has a laptop.

Your logic fails. Try harder.
 
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