You said the rise in immigration has led to blah blah blah etc and then mentioned child grooming scandals as being the tip of the iceberg. If that's not implying that the racial minorities are responsible for crime then I don't know what is.
The rise in immigration (uncontrolled mass immigration) has led to a rise in crime, and social unrest (London riots, Bradford riots, to name 2). It isn't as if I am saying it is the only source of crime, but it is a problem that was not here until it was brought here. I refer you again to Japan.
You used to do this a lot if I recall.
This is simply taking the argument to the person, albeit more subtly. I ignore things which I have already answered in the thread. What is the point of me repeating myself?
. Diversity didn't bring TB back.
Mass immigration made the problem far worse.
Travel to and from countries where TB is endemic brought it back,
Yes, and when you have a large Pakistani population, and African populations, with family in those areas, it stands to reason that TB will be brought back a whole lot more. Surely you can't be ignoring that logic?
http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=5262.0
It is an
undeniable truth that mass immigration has made a small problem, and a largely extinct problem, a current and big problem. Undeniable.
if they ever managed to push through Sharia law, but I don't see that happening.
They will, when they make up enough of the population. Mass immigration, and the fact they have a much higher birthrate, means it is INEVITABLE. The question, is time. Unless something is done about it, here and now, this country will be a Sharia country at some time in the future.
Did you grow up in London? And if so, what was your experience of it like?
I live close to Bradford, which has many of the same problems. I have also visited the East End of London many times, and it is a hell hole. I was warned in a local pub not to use ATM machines on my first visit. I looked out of the window to see 5 black youths with a black bin liner waiting for someone who did. That was one of many stories I have from London. Parts of London are a complete ghetto. I was on a bus heading to my hotel once, and not one person on it spoke English except for me. They were all talking in different languages. I asked a white lady for directions to my hotel, and she also did not know English. It was a foreign land on and off the bus. I know people who have moved out. So yes, I know exactly what has happened in London.
First hand experience. I also saw it get torched to the ground a few months back, when a black criminal was shot dead, and all the blacks rose up (as they do elsewhere when one of their "brothers" comes a cropper). I also know that White Flight has happened in London. Why would White British people be moving out if it were so great? Answers on a postcard. Same with Detroit.
London has always been rife with crime.
We are talking increase in crime, and in ghettoisation (if there is such a word). I know crime has always been everywhere. The thing is, it was never mass riots, looting, torching, and severe social unrest, with hundreds of thousands LEAVING.
The simple fact is that we're not producing enough children so immigration is actually a necessary component.
Japan would like a word. So probably, would Australia and many other countries. It is a complete myth that we need so much immigration. We have always generally had 2.5 children and less... and we didn't need mass immigration before, did we. This argument is a complete nonsense.
Also, could you give me a brief description of what you'd do to solve this problem?
All immigration needs to stop immediately until the problem is repaired. Criminals can be made to do certain jobs in the community. Those on the dole, or too lazy to work, can get trained and get a job. Islam needs outlawing, as it is plainly against freedom, and the holy book is racist, against homosexuals, against women, incites hatred, murder, violence, and is antisemitic. (among a whole catalogue of problems). Jails need to be jails. Capital punishment needs reinstating. In time, we would have an immigration system like Japan, and our OWN HOME GROWN talent would be doing the vast bulk of jobs.
Unfortunately, this would require a lot of work, and for sure, outlawing Islam would result in riots. But that's better than doing nothing and waiting for the inevitable.
We should also set up a repatriation fund, to aid in those that want to leave Britain, and this should be encouraged, especially for those from Muslim countries and Africa. Treason should have the death penalty (all failed suicide bombers, for example, would be strung up and choked, as would those that preach death to British civilians, or incite death to Britain).
The problems in Britain need a total overhaul in the system to combat them. The government would have to be very strong. In short, it isn't happening. I can tell you what is though... severe economic and social problems, eventually leading to collapse and the election of a far right government. This is also inevitable. Because, like Germany in the 30s, when people have nowhere else to turn to, they have to vote for those that will listen.
Just like I do.
Of course, if the naive leftists hadn't brought this on us, there would be no problem. See Japan (again).
I have answered your questions, and made my position on this clear. I will not return to this thread.
