Camera data at the movie sequences

[SpooX]

I'm wondering, through a discussion with Timu, is it known where we can find the camera placement/movement for the movie sequences? probably in the field files?

As in the intro movie at the end there are some Shin-ra soldier models placed at the platform, and the second fmv cloud is visible during the camera pan towards the reactor.

I'm trying to find out if it is possible to extract this data from the field files and import in max or other program...

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[BlitzNCS]

Ahah, exactly what I was wondering. If this were possible, recreating cutscenes would be relatively easy. I thought we'd have to photomatch every camera movement in the cutscene, which would be pretty problematic to say the least. I'm sure that's the Idea you have, right?

Though, I don't have a clue where this data might be stored D:

 

[nfitc1]

In the PC version, there's a movie_cam.lgp file. In it, there are cam files that are associated with no more than 1 movie file. I don't know the format of those files though. They're likely to be field scripts of some sort. I'm focusing on the battle side of things.

 

[SpooX]

hmmm that's interesting, also a txt file is included in the lpg file.... list.txt

mkup     cam         5,400  10-12-97 10:02p mkup.cam
opening  cam        71,680  10-12-97 10:03p opening.cam
......

**edit:added dots at the end of the incomplete list**

 

[BlitzNCS]

Is that all there is in your list? Because my one seems to have loads more lines.

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       8,480  10-12-97 10:07p canonht0.camcanonht1 cam        15,440  10-12-97 10:06p canonht1.camcanonht2 cam         8,280  10-12-97 10:05p canonht2.cammk8      cam         2,080  10-12-97 10:02p mk8.camcanonht3 cam        11,120  10-12-97 10:04p canonht3.camcanonon  cam        26,840  10-12-97 10:04p canonon.camcar_1209 cam        42,920  10-12-97 10:07p car_1209.camcar1209  cam        42,920  10-12-97 10:07p car1209.camcorel_c1 cam         4,080  10-12-97 10:04p corel_c1.camcorel_c2 cam         4,320  10-12-97 10:04p corel_c2.camcorelmt  cam         3,520  10-12-97 10:02p corelmt.camdropein  cam         6,480  10-12-97 10:04p dropein.camSS10C~UP CAM        32,960  10-12-97 10:06p ss10c1_c4.camdumcrush cam        13,880  10-12-97 10:05p dumcrush.camearithdd cam        41,680  10-12-97 10:06p earithdd.camending01 cam        34,080  10-12-97 10:07p ending01.camending02 cam       319,200  10-12-97 10:07p ending02.camending03 cam        52,760  10-12-97 10:07p ending03.camfallpl   cam  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10:04p hwindjet.camjairofal cam         9,080  10-12-97 10:04p jairofal.camjairofly cam        24,720  10-12-97 10:03p jairofly.camjunair   cam         3,400  10-12-97 10:02p junair.camjunaird  cam         2,560  10-12-97 10:02p junaird.camjunairu  cam         2,560  10-12-97 10:07p junairu.camjunelego cam         3,840  10-12-97 10:03p junelego.camjunelein cam         3,840  10-12-97 10:03p junelein.camjunin_go cam         4,440  10-12-97 10:03p junin_go.camjunin_in cam         4,440  10-12-97 10:03p junin_in.camjunon    cam        19,280  10-12-97 10:02p junon.camjunon_e1 cam         2,480  10-12-97 10:03p junon_e1.camjunsea   cam         2,480  10-12-97 10:03p junsea.camlast4_4  cam        18,000  10-12-97 10:07p last4_4.camlastflor cam         4,800  10-12-97 10:07p lastflor.camloslake1 cam         9,480  10-12-97 10:07p loslake1.camloslake2 cam         4,520  10-12-97 10:07p loslake2.camlskey    cam         9,480  10-12-97 10:06p lskey.camlslmv    cam         4,440  10-12-97 10:07p lslmv.cammainplr  cam         7,880  10-12-97 10:03p mainplr.cammeteofix cam        14,880  10-12-97 10:04p meteofix.cammeteosky cam        10,440  10-12-97 10:05p meteosky.cammonitor  cam         4,520  10-12-97 10:03p monitor.cammtcrl    cam         2,480  10-12-97 10:02p mtcrl.cammtnvl    cam        12,080  10-12-97 10:03p mtnvl.cammtnvl2   cam         6,920  10-12-97 10:03p mtnvl2.camname     cam         4,800  10-12-97 10:05p name.camnivljnv  cam        25,680  10-12-97 10:05p nivljnv.camnivlsfs  cam        12,080  10-12-97 10:04p nivlsfs.camnrcrl    cam        11,320  10-12-97 10:04p nrcrl.camnrcrlb   cam         5,280  10-12-97 10:03p nrcrlb.camnvlmk    cam        12,680  10-12-97 10:05p nvlmk.camontrain  cam         7,680  10-12-97 10:03p ontrain.camparashot cam        20,320  10-12-97 10:04p parashot.camphoenix  cam        15,680  10-12-97 10:05p phoenix.camplrexp   cam         9,200  10-12-97 10:04p plrexp.camplrexp2  cam         5,840  10-12-97 10:03p plrexp2.camrcktfail cam        20,480  10-12-97 10:04p rcktfail.camrckthit  cam         8,520  10-12-97 10:04p rckthit.camrckthit2 cam        15,600  10-12-97 10:05p rckthit2.camrcktoff  cam        32,880  10-12-97 10:06p rcktoff.camss1c1_c6 cam        25,320  10-12-97 10:06p ss1c1_c6.camSS2C1~4L CAM        36,600  10-12-97 10:07p ss2c1_c7b.camss3c1_19 cam        46,960  10-12-97 10:06p ss3c1_19.camss4c1_c6 cam        23,360  10-12-97 10:06p ss4c1_c6.camss5c1_c9 cam        24,000  10-12-97 10:06p ss5c1_c9.camss6c1_17 cam        68,560  10-12-97 10:06p ss6c1_17.camss7c1_c7 cam        31,920  10-12-97 10:06p ss7c1_c7.camss9c1_c1 cam         5,760  10-12-97 10:06p ss9c1_c1.camuropego  cam         5,480  10-12-97 10:04p uropego.camuropein  cam         5,920  10-12-97 10:04p uropein.camseto     cam         5,760  10-12-97 10:03p seto.camsetogake cam         5,400  10-12-97 10:04p setogake.camsmk      cam         1,440  10-12-97 10:02p smk.camsouthmk  cam         9,680  10-12-97 10:04p southmk.camlist     txt         4,096  01-27-98  6:50p list.txtweapon0  cam        17,480  10-12-97 10:04p weapon0.camweapon1  cam        12,080  10-12-97 10:04p weapon1.camweapon2  cam        15,080  10-12-97 10:04p weapon2.camweapon3  cam        18,080  10-12-97 10:05p weapon3.camweapon4  cam         7,280  10-12-97 10:05p weapon4.camweapon5  cam        26,480  10-12-97 10:05p weapon5.camwh2e2    cam        25,920  10-12-97 10:07p wh2e2.camzmind11  cam         5,400  10-12-97 10:06p zmind11.camzmind21  cam         5,400  10-12-97 10:06p zmind21.camzmind31  cam         9,000  10-12-97 10:06p zmind31.camzzz      cam         7,800  10-12-97 10:03p zzz.camcscene1  cam         8,400  10-12-97 10:06p cscene1.camss2c1_c7 cam        36,600  10-12-97 10:06p ss2c1_c7.camSS8C1~BX CAM        72,520  10-12-97 10:06p ss8c1_c23.cam

 

[SpooX]

ok i forgot to add some dotsat the end, yes the list is the same.
wonder where this data is positioned on the psx version...

 

[Furzball]

You know, this would make recreating movie sequences abit easier depending on what Q-Gears allows.

 

[SpooX]

Oh Yeah...progress...  8)

the cam files so far seem to follow the exact same format as the camera part stored in the psx-dat files.

as an example the opening movie:

MD1STIN has the camera position:
pos:[3645.043,26981.36,403.863]

as we look in (PC) opening.cam we get for the position:


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Name Size Frames Time(s)opening.cam 71680 1792 119frame x y z1 0 0 02 0 0 03 0 0 04 0 0 05 0 0 06 0 0 0

followed by a lot of zero's untill...

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1591 0 0 01592 0 0 01593 10377,97 -28726,81 27670,451594 9914,54 -27449,72 27358,421595 9476,735 -26188,21 27048,491596 9047,121 -24944,17 26737,111597 8643,798 -23723,99 26431,11598 8252,699 -22528,11 26122,061599 7873,735 -21352,95 25815,131600 7527,675 -20191,94 25509,731601 7188,344 -19060,5 25211,29

(skipped another part till nearly the end....)

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1750 3666,385 26835,74 458,94141751 3664,919 26858,08 448,98781752 3660,714 26879,67 437,23931753 3661,381 26900,13 428,28391754 3653,734 26918,06 421,2081755 3651,654 26933,62 417,03561756 3654,436 26947,35 413,54441757 3649,675 26959,18 411,04591758 3649,726 26969,06 408,14891759 3649,729 26975,61 403,96751760 3647,795 26979,12 405,06911761 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631762 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631763 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631764 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631765 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631766 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631767 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631768 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631769 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631770 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631771 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631772 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631773 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631774 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631775 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631776 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631777 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631778 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631779 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631780 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631781 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631782 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631783 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631784 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631785 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631786 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631787 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631788 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631789 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631790 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631791 3645,043 26981,36 403,8631792 3645,043 26981,36 403,863

if we take a look above....
pos:[3645.043,26981.36,403.863]
1792   3645,04326981,36403,863

So we have a match  :-D

thanx to the reversing of Akari i must add.

https://www.ff7catalog.com/threads/3440/
for reference.

 

[sl1982]

Is this in reference to field cameras? If it is and you could show me how you got those it would help out alot for aligning cameras for redoing backgrounds. We have been eyeballing it up to this point.

 

[SpooX]

See PM for details.  8)

 

[Gemini]

wonder where this data is positioned on the psx version...

Right in the MOV/STR files. There should be camera info at the beginning of every 8 sectors.

 

[SpooX]

Thanx Gemini, if I have the time I'll take a look at those...

for now I've worked on the camdats... (a bit easier for the time being)

MKUP
a little proof of concept... (based on the camdat file and the walkmesh).

there are only some little problems I haven't figgured out yet... ???

as the background is projected there's only a part visible, if I take the camera settings, it uses the complete background, and therefore the complete model within the camera viewpoint.