Criticism of the Catholic Church is like the Holocaust!

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Correct me if I'm horribly wrong on this.  Around the year of 0 AD, Jesus declared the apostle Peter as the "rock" on which he would build his church.
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lol yeah, if you read it it goes something like this:
"...thou art Peter [Petros], and upon this rock [Petra] I will build my church..."

This was based on Simon's confession and is a play on words, just like the any other parables Jesus taught. Simon confessed by the spirit of God, according to Jesus, and it's upon this faith he would build his church. JESUS is the friggin rock here!!

From Greek: Petros = Peter = a rock or a stone. Petra = a rock, cliff or ledge.

In other words, Peter was a little stone in the cliff. Hardly a pope. He was even married, and it's highly doubtful he ever was in Rome.

And, hey, even Peter are calling us stones [Petros]: (1 Peter 2:5) "Ye also, as lively stones, are build up spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." I guess we're all popes, huh?
 
Well, different people have different interpretations.  That's why religions tend to have a lot of separate sects branching off of them.
 
Well, different people have different interpretations.  That's why religions tend to have a lot of separate sects branching off of them.
True. But, imho, the catholic interpretation of the bible is really f***ed up. Many of their traditions actually goes against what the bible teach. The very idea of a pope is blasphemous lol. If you look at history it's pretty evident that doctrines has been invented. for instance purgatory: In 1546 the Vatican declared the apocrypha holy, mainly to justify the purgatory doctrine.

(Just to be clear: I don't mean to offend anyone here. People are entitled to their own opinions, and I have nothing personal against any catholic.)
 
I feel like if anyone takes offense to the things we're saying about the pope, they should seriously re-consider why exactly it is that they hold him with such high regard after reading things like this. I feel like the pope serves for too many people as a "Bible for dummies", but the message of the bible isn't something you can sparknote, it's something you have to come to realize yourself and live by.
 
might wanna delete a backslash off of that address.

Sounds like a publicity stunt to detract from the issue at hand to me.

"Didn't you know that priests were molesting children for some time now?"
"ermm...uh......ANTISEMITIC COMMENT!"
"Gasp! Some guy the pope is now distancing himself from made an anti-semitic comment! Let's all pay attention to him now!"

Then again, my theory that "religious leader" is synonymous with "ignorant pompous asshole" as well as "politician", "lawyer", "law enforcer", and  "bane of society" may be true...

stephan harper
 
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5415

... is planning a legal ambush to have the Pope arrested during his state visit to Britain “for crimes against humanity”.
The pair believe they can exploit the same legal principle used to arrest Augusto Pinochet, the late Chilean dictator, when he visited Britain in 1998.
the law vs. the pope, this is gonna turn out strange if someone pulls through with it.
 
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5415

... is planning a legal ambush to have the Pope arrested during his state visit to Britain “for crimes against humanity”.
The pair believe they can exploit the same legal principle used to arrest Augusto Pinochet, the late Chilean dictator, when he visited Britain in 1998.
the law vs. the pope, this is gonna turn out strange if someone pulls through with it.
That's funny. But not exactly the right way to handle things. The pope is just a figurehead. All in all he's probably a nice guy--I wouldn't know, I've never met him, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's what the Pope stands for--the fact that the concept of a pope even exists that's the problem.
Doing something like arresting the pope will just make a lot of people seriously dislike you. Although who knows, having the Pope go to a white collar prison might send a message to the Catholic Church and make them learn from their mistakes....

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......BAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA oh man I had myself going there... the church... learning from mistakes.... Ha! As if they're not too egocentric to even admit to having made mistakes...
 
It's what the Pope stands for--the fact that the concept of a pope even exists that's the problem.
Call me old fashioned, but I would very much like to see the pope in a "pound-me-in-the-ass" prison.
He is made of the same meat, bones and gray matter that I am comprised of, he is not worth more in flesh than any other human.

If parliament or congress where condoning, hiding and protecting child molestation there would be reform.
 
Call me old fashioned, but I would very much like to see the pope in a "pound-me-in-the-ass" prison.
If the crimes of the catholic church were to all be amassed onto the pope and prosecuted legally, he wouldn't go to prison, he'd go to Guantanamo.
 
Don't point the accusing finger at the whole Catholic Church, now.  There are plenty of innocent, well-intending people in there (as there tends to be with a very large group).  It's kind of like saying, "A group of Canadians stole my car!  Canadians are bad people!!"

The sex-offending priests should be the ones going to jail.  After all, they seem to enjoy rape.
 
Is there a specific reason you chose canadians to make your point with?
 
No.  Sorry if it offends anybody.  You can mentally replace that with anything you like and it would still get my point across.  "Westerners", "Easterners", "Weathermen", "Video gamers", "Cyclists", "Pokemon trainers", whatever :)

Point being: Choose a large group of people, you will usually get a majority of innocent, well-intending people and a minority of not-so-innocent people.  There must be at least a few criminals in Canada (just to use an example), but don't let them damage the reputation of the whole country because they're a tiny part of the population.  Likewise, I think (despite my previous comments) that it's getting a bit too anti-Catholic in here, originally because of something stupid a Catholic said, and now moving on to Catholic sex offenders...
 
Every group has its downfalls.  Christians are annoying as hell, Muslims have far too many extremists, Catholics rape little boys, Scientologists want to rule the world.   Nothing to be sorry about
 
Don't point the accusing finger at the whole Catholic Church, now.  There are plenty of innocent, well-intending people in there (as there tends to be with a very large group).
"If all the crimes of the catholic church." Are you saying that everyone in the catholic church has committed crimes against humanity? I'll admit, though that you can replace almost any religion there and achieve the same effect. The only reason I said "the catholic church" is because we were talking in the context of the pope.

Christians are annoying as hell
pun intended?

Muslims have far too many extremists
see: on tv. we didn't know shit about Muslim extremists prior to 9/11

Catholics rape little boys
And Hitler had a horrible taste in facial hair. That's the least of their issues.
 
Muslims have far too many extremists
see: on tv. we didn't know sh*t about Muslim extremists prior to 9/11
See: no other religion rioting in the streets accompanied by death threats to those who don't conform to their style of thinking.  At least not in modern day society.  This was all well and good back in 1100 and 1200 AD, but the rest of the religions have taken on more peaceful forms of conversions.

Sorry, I just hate chosen ignorance and close-mindedness, and it seems to be getting more and more popular worldwide [/pessimism]
 
Muslims have far too many extremists
see: on tv. we didn't know sh*t about Muslim extremists prior to 9/11
See: no other religion rioting in the streets accompanied by death threats to those who don't conform to their style of thinking.  At least not in modern day society.
rebuttal.

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All Catholics rape little boys.   All.

That's ok though because I believe in the KKK's value system.   They also aren't nearly as "dangerous" as they used to be.  It's now more of a point of view than lynching and burning crosses.
 
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That's ok though because I believe in the KKK's value system.   They also aren't nearly as "dangerous" as they used to be.  It's now more of a point of view than lynching and burning crosses.
Hm?  I don't know everything about the KKK, but just the name of the group is so badly tainted now that it'd be shameful to voluntarily be a member of it on any grounds.  Seriously, they've caused more terror and distress in their day than Muslim extremists have done in ours.  Yeah, um... EDIT: Didn't think that one through enough before posting :P

If a point of view is blatantly racist, then I don't see what's not wrong with it.  I try to respect others' opinions, but to consider yourself superior based on something so negligible as skin color... anyone who does that (consciously) ought to stop it right now.
 
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