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Ask yourself this question:

1) Is this model/background/character/game asset I'm working with originally in Final Fantasy 7?

If yes; then go about what you are doing.
If no; then please adjust what you are doing.

The reason for the rule is this. SquareEnix has something called "goodwill", which is the perceived value of their intellectual property. (Like how much their copyright is worth in terms of cash.) Putting in characters that don't belong like Sonic, or tuning Chocobos into motorcycles, or throwing in Darth Vader for Sephy damages SquareEnix's goodwill. This makes the perceived value of FF7 go down, and costs them real money on their balance sheets! This is why 99.999% of the C&D letters go out. Here's the thing about breaking goodwill. You can have A LEGAL COPY OF THE GAME and simply modifying could cause damage to goodwill. The original FF7 PC did not have an End User License Agreement (EULA), you you think you are in the clear. You are not!

Why do things like Overclocked music mixes get a pass? It's not because they don't charge for the CD. It's because Square perceives that such fan art does not damage their goodwill. Notice copyright doesn't even enter the argument. However, things like Chrono Resurrection DOES damage their goodwill. It makes their original work look like it has less value than someone else's.

Does this mean putting in ANY mod can damage goodwill?  The answer is a wholehearted YES! When I say "SquareEnix has given a pass" that does not mean "SquareEnix has given permission". It Meas SquareEnix, for reason unknown has decided not to start legal proceedings. Maybe they don't know it exists, or maybe they are turning a blind eye. I have no idea.

So Enjoy that you can play FF7 in 1600x1200. Enjoy that you an inject higher quality models in. Just don't push it, because all it takes is one person to screw it up for the rest of us.
 
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i completely disagree with the whole goodwill statement.

not as in "i dont believe you" because i do believe square would pull something like that.

its more that i find the whole thing to be ridiculous.
 
i completely disagree with the whole goodwill statement.

not as in "i dont believe you" because i do believe square would pull something like that.

its more that i find the whole thing to be ridiculous.
It really not a matter if you disagree or not. The fact of the matter is they have used this very accusation to shut down projects in the past.

I don't think I'm making this clear enough...

I was on one of the projects that SquareEnix has shut down!

I kind of know what I'm talking about. I also have a degree in business and took business law for a year. These are not facts I'm just pulling out of a book."Goodwill" is an actual business term. It is an intangible asset which means it's lumped in with copyrights, patents, and trademarks. Surprise! It's one of those words that you always see on a C&D. It's an awesome catch-all to shut something down.

You can believe that the moon as made out of green cheese, SquareEnix doesn't care. You belief offers very little in the way of an argument.
 
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Replacing Seph with old Buckethead wouldn't lower the brands value one bit, the FFVII brand is still Squeenix's big money earner, not gonna change any time soon from someone modding the game for fun.
 
We can mod most any part of FF7 at this point.  What's to stop SquareEnix from deciding all of our mods look so good that it could infringe on money they could receive if they did a remake?   That is why precautions need to be taken.
 
...The moon's TOTALLY made of cheese! Moreover, that's where you fight the cheese weapon and get the Cheese Armlet and the Cheese sword which always does "CHEESE" damage and the Cheese Armlet makes you always have lucky CHEESE's. And somehow Aerith gets revived!

Haha, I like entertaining myself

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Halkun, what project were you on that received a C&D? I know it wasn't Q-Gears...
 
Replacing Seph with old Buckethead wouldn't lower the brands value one bit, the FFVII brand is still Squeenix's big money earner, not gonna change any time soon from someone modding the game for fun.
Really tell that the guy who helped break the model format for Chrono Cross and helped make the patch that changed Guile to Magus (Restoring the original story laid out by Radical Dreamers).

I'm interested to see what he thinks... He's right here. His name is halkun and he's a pretty swell guy!
 
And do you not believe that it's bull sh*t that they stopped you?

i'm not saying "don't listen to them and do it anyway"

what i'm asking is if you believe that it is ethical, fair, or even a good idea, to shut down everything other people try to do to make the game more fun/interesting/funny/insert quality here that makes people want to play the game more?
 
It's Square's game, they have every right to take their ball home.
Unfortunately for Square it isn't just one ball... to be quite honest we are the ones holding their balls and they'll have to get them back in order to take them home...

Quite simply modders are like roaches, when the light of law shines on them they scatter and find a new shady place to go about their business... And they're really hard to kill.

The sad truth is that games simply aren't good enough, which is what generally spurs modders into action.

Simply put, Square is waging a pointed, but impossible war. Neither side will ever win... The modders will never make enough impact to beat the corporations and Square will never cause enough attrition to stop the modders.
 
Halkun, I am familliar with the rules, you seem to be posting them just about everywhere,  :| but if you had read my first post you would have known I was talking about the Vincent Model and not the DW model, plus I haven't edited or ripped this model anyone can download it from the Jedi Knight website, just like you can download APZ's cloud, same thing... :roll:

vincenty.jpg


Also please take note of when this topic was made, (before the new rules!) Also note that I didn't make this topic...

Phew... lol
 
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@Mxster

Ano...Sempai.... Do you have a ready made file to be used ingame? I really want to play that kind of Vincent model To Complete The Experience...Please???
 
@Harruzame

I'm working on putting him in game, when I have I'll let you know
 
to be quite honest we are the ones holding their balls and they'll have to get them back in order to take them home...
Heheheh....sorry naughty thoughts :-P

Sonic, or tuning Chocobos into motorcycles, or throwing in Darth Vader for Sephy damages SquareEnix's goodwill.
This is why i stopped doing that patch. I stopped it for pretty much this, and that there was no interest.

Halkun, would you mind locking my old sonic topic for me please?
 
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Hontoni?! Arigato Gozaimas-u!

 Please do so PM me if its finished...It will really be awesome to improve Vincent here....as evryone focuses on Fluffy animals and freakish ookamis..

Good Luck!! Ganbare!!
 
not being funny halkun.. but ur a tit....
u should READ before posting pointless comments........
 
why'd he say locked if it isnt locked?

and yes locking it seems unfair
 
I think he was saying that ultima espio's sonic thread is locked (at ultima espio's request).

Also, inb4 ,Raziel's vowels go missing :-P
 
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