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That's a really good Reno . . . we need a vastly improved Rude to go with him though
 
Thanks , don't worry i got elena and rude also, for now i'll be sending the files over to squeeble to work on battle, yesturday night i sent him vincent, and his working on it now i believe.
The vincent model is almost exactly the same as the doc vincent, you guys probably wouldn't noticed if i didn't tell you hehe ^^
i'll post some screens up once its done =D
 
You know you should really stop posting news up before I get conformation of things XD. Genisis said no so that means no Vincent, and you haven't sent me the readme from Reno and the others so I can ask the creators first, I'm not going to put there work in if they don't want to be apart of it. However I have been working on Reno but only because I think it would be pointless not to do any work at all before I get conformation. But yes so far no Vincent. So once I get onto the other creators we'll just have to see what happens after that.
 
Hey does anyone know the file name for the "black cape man" (the people in black capes worshiping sephiroth)
I have an idea, using kh2 organization xii guys, the model when they are wearing a hood something like this picture:

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(doesn't look completely right, i haven't wielded it yet)

As for xexion i think his name was, i was thinking of using his head for vincent, when he was a turk. Xexions head and hair looks the same anyway, i'll just have to retexture his hair to black or leave it as it is, if it looks good.

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(this head is wielded :D exept his top 2nd set of hair)

Also i patched up and wielded cloud from kh2, theres no holes ^^ just for a practice, since i never used 3d max before, but so far so good.
Heres a screen : http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/wushuboi/sad.jpg

EDIT*** New vincent

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Man what a pain in the ass took so long to do this >< anyway today i decided to take a break from all the studying for exams. :D and i finished vincent! yay
 
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REALLY good weemus!! I thought of one thing, since Squeeble withdraws, what will you do? Do you still work with murak/andrewmarsh etc ? Alone? Do you still have KH1/2 data to work on? ....  :?
 
Hmmm...i'm not too sure anymore, well firstly all the things squeeble's been talking about and the court @.@, man thats freaking scary haha.
i'm afraid i'll have to withdraw, sorry guys!
And if i were to continue with the field model conversions, i'd have to start from scratch again, because all these models are squeebles battle models, converted into field
leaving me behind, vincent which i am not allowed to use, i asked the author.

But i found a easy way to patch the models, so i reckon anyone can do this and continue this mod.
download milkshape 3d, import the kh2 character, select all vertices's and press 'ctrl w' which then wields everything export it as a .obj
After that the model should be looking very smoothed out and most holes are already patched up. (open in max and flip the few holes on the model if there are any)

Another way of patching up just by using max.
Open 3d max, import the model, select any object, lets say the head.
Click the head and press 'ctrl v' which then duplicates the object in the same spot, now go to polygon and press 'ctrl a' to select all faces, the faces should be red and flip the polygons around.
Now attach the duplicated head with the 1st head. this makes it show 2 sides (sorry i'm terrible at explaining things)

Well there you have it a fully patched up model. Hope this was useful.

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Don't worry guys although i said, i wouldn't release any models that squeeble made, i just found my old folder, some models i made, it's incomplete at the moment but once i complete it, i'll release it :D heres a screen of zack

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Having 2nd thoughts...Maybe...after my exams i'll restart this mod from scratch using kh2 models this time. or create my own, oh well, unless you guys here really persuade me to continue haha and i'll think about it.

Heres some more screens

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Omg Weeemus thats fucking awsome!!  :evil: You should continue with this mod!!! noone else can do a better job than you!
 
Cool how many characters are left to do on this mod? Its lookin really good!
 
Thanks for the feedback ^^ anyway, i just made zack with the crisis core sword, well it looks similar anyway.

(i just merged some swords together from zelda and changed some poly's here and there)

And here it is! :D

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That's an excellent job weemus!  For the KH2 Cloud, you'll want to flip it, I'm not sure why Max does this, but that's what I had to do when I got the model as well.  I hope that makes sense, compare your screenshot with this reference and you'll see what I mean.  :wink:

Cloud AC
 
Buh . . . guh . . . mergh . . . need awesome Zack! Need weeemus keep working on mod!

Sorry what I meant was that is a particularly awe inspiring piece of work and you do us all a great injustice by not continuing both it and any other work you have now or in the pipeline . . . :mrgreen:
 
ps i did not make this model all work and efforts go to Szico VII
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Actually, Reno was made by Noen, as well as Rufus, Elena and Rude.

The Vincent is made by Eclypse, as well as some others. Eclypse is also making the Shinra MP (generic grunt and Cloud variant).

Don't even bother taking the Sephiroth models that were made for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. Gir made those models, and he hates it when people steal his work.

Other than that it all looks awesome.
 
Hey that Zack looks nice, I'm assuming that thats not my cloud because he has holes in him where I'm pretty sure I didn't have holes :lol:. But yeah you where basically right about the hair, it was Roxas wasn't it?. Oh and andrew already made a nice zack sword wich will go nice with him. But yeah eclypse has specifically denied permission of the use of his Vincent so for anyone a bit confused he wont be able to use that one, and I've been speaking to noen so no go for his turks models either. You should probably crack open FF 12 and have a look inside it, the only problem is one in every 5 models works, I think coz most are animations or something but theres some good models in there if you manage to sift your way through them. Oh and also by flipping and attaching the peices to cover up the holes, for example clouds head that also doubles all the polys you have in a scene, so if cloud was originally 6000 polys once your done he would become 12000 polys. While this is effective for covering up the holes its quite inefficient coz depending on the model, in a single battle scene you could have up to 50000 polys witch on most computers will cause either frame rate drop or there will be a slight pause before a battle.
 
So weeemus, you are going to finish what you've started and release something when it's complete, WITHOUT stealing any models?
Or are you going to stop because of non-existent lawsuits with SquareEnix?
 
I wouldn't worry about lawsuits until you get a Cease and desists from Square. Until a C&D, don't let the thought of a lawsuit scare you. Your doing a great job!
 
ps i did not make this model all work and efforts go to Szico VII
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Actually, Reno was made by Noen, as well as Rufus, Elena and Rude.

The Vincent is made by Eclypse, as well as some others. Eclypse is also making the Shinra MP (generic grunt and Cloud variant).

Don't even bother taking the Sephiroth models that were made for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. Gir made those models, and he hates it when people steal his work.

Other than that it all looks awesome.
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All these authors names are good, but do you have any source? forum, website? I can't find a thing in google by searching eclypse+"jedi academy" .

WEEMUS: Your work is incredible, I don't know how much time you spent on this, but it wasn't a waste of time!! You know you can make patch of LGP files with LGPTools? So if its a separate patch , it's not copyright enfrightment (I misspeled this one I'm sure) . ANd furthermore, if you just customise some FFVII models in kimera and add some textures/models by 3dsmax, with ff12/10/10-2/KH1/KH2 inspiration, NOT porting directly models , it's even better, cause you can enhence them even more!!!

Good luck man, I'll follow your proogress close.

Keep up the incredible work!!!!!! If you manage to do this, even a little , YOU will be the one to aplaude. (not the one who withdraws) . And if Square enix is against it, you'll receive a cease and desist letter, like they did for chrono trigger resurection....


Tschüss !!
 
Listen you whiny bich I'm friends with quite a few people here on these forums, and weeemus happens to be my biggest, whom I am helping out a bit in teaching him how to do it, and as for applause, what the fact that I decided to withdraw rather than release denies the fact that I was the one who did this first, and you must be really thick if you don't understand the implications of "I MIGHT WANT A JOB IN THE GAMES INDUSTRY IN THE FUTURE" so it would be absolutely stupid of me to release a mod with such blatant infringement. As for source of the authors go here http://forums.filefront.com/ and just do a search for the authors name, because theres way to many threads there for one person to look. So as far as I'm concerned Dje you have no idea what your talking about, or the amount of people on this forum and others who understand my decision to stop.
 
Listen you whiny bich I'm friends with quite a few people here on these forums,
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So, tell me... what exactly did you expect after your "Ooooh! Drama! Oooh! Must destroy all! Oooh! Not going to tell you! Oooh! Big secret! Drama!"-post?

Without getting involved in any way in the business of who might be right and who might not be right and who might be acting like children... let this be a lesson in PR for you. You do something like that on message board, this will follow, regardless of whether it's right, justified or whatnot.

I'd almost suggest that honesty is the best policy - and that means honesty right from the start, unless you have actually been legally bound not to tell - which I assume you haven't been at this point - and in which case you could just say that, or you are sure that protecting someone is really worth it (note: if that someone is you, it pretty much automatically means that it's not worth it.).


There is something I'd like cleared out, though: first weeemus says "i decided to make one model of reno, heres a picture" and after that he says - in the same post even "ps i did not make this model all work and efforts go to Szico VII". This is where I get confused. So, did he make it, or did he not make it?

This rather serious lack of crediting the actual authors - if you ask me - makes just about every other model a suspect too; did he make it, or did he just use a model someone else made and unlike in that particular case, didn't see it fit to share that fact?

Same to you, it seems that you have run into a similar situation, where you didn't get consent from the author of one of the models - something you apparently asked after posting screenshots. So, do you understand what this looks like, when you hit the Drama Button? Yeah, you guessed it; it looks like you stole the models, got caught, and are trying to hide it.

Is it so? How would I know, considering that it was a big secret, until this not-overly-convincing "I want to work in the industry" came up.

So, yeah. Like I said, lesson in PR.
 
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