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jamesyfx
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Hmm.? I've played some of the avis in media player and music is nowhere to be heard there.
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dziugo
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Music? No... Sound effects? Yup.
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Nayus Dante
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I think the main ones would be the intro and possibly the ending. Just to be safe, Ive been doing every single vid. Im gonna go through them again though and use the PSX audio for the ones without music, since I listened again and there is a slight increase in audio quality.
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Gallocs
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Is there anyway to get these edited videos to actually be played from the game itself?
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Nayus Dante
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Yep, just alter the registry value for the Movie Path and put the new movies in whatever directory you specified. Make sure theyre the right filenames.
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Sir_Brizz
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Here's the sad part. I own the Pc version but not the PSX version, and I very much would like to have better looking cutscenes 
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Gallocs
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Hey Nayus, mind explaining that to me?
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Nayus Dante
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Search this site for the method to accessing the movies from the hard disk. After that, use PSX video rips in place of the original movies.
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Noobie
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I couldn't find a topic about that using the search, so I went to the FAQ and presto it was there. The info you need it placed here: http://www.ff7-universe.com/Downloads/FF7Movietweak.txt
Also note that the FF7 PC movies are not that bad. In-game they play bad because it is 16-bit or 8-bit (with some weird color pallete loaded that doesn't change for the movies). In 32-bit they all look pretty well. The problem is that, altough you can get FF7 to run in 32-bit, the movies will look weird as well as some backgrounds do (Cetra has a 32-bit patch & a FF7 window patch).
Also note that the FF7 PC movies are not that bad. In-game they play bad because it is 16-bit or 8-bit (with some weird color pallete loaded that doesn't change for the movies). In 32-bit they all look pretty well. The problem is that, altough you can get FF7 to run in 32-bit, the movies will look weird as well as some backgrounds do (Cetra has a 32-bit patch & a FF7 window patch).
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Nayus Dante
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the 32bit patch makes a big black bar in the vids for me. Also, just looking at the vids in winmediaplayer, the PSX ones are a lot better looking. Then again, if you dont want to go through all the work, the PC ones are acceptable...
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Noobie
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Yes the 32bit patch does the same for me. If someone could fix this, or just made it so the duck-decompressor is bypassed, we're in business.
I wouldn't mind going trough the work (which isn't all that much work if you have the PSX discs & PSX Multi Converter) if I would know how to get them to play in-game without having the FF7 movie playing engine fuxoring them up badly.
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Chrisu
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Couls someone help me?
I have filtered a video of ff7 and changed resol. to 640x480,is there a way to make the game play the movie now?
I have filtered a video of ff7 and changed resol. to 640x480,is there a way to make the game play the movie now?
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Wintermute
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No, the internal engine can only play movies up to a resolution of 320x240.
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steven
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the whole idea of abandonware is that the company that made it stopes supporting it and for the game to not be in production anymore (meaning you can't go to a store that sells pc games and buy it but have to buy a 2nd hand copy from somebody on ebay)
Since the last patch made for the game was made a few years ago ( not sure when 1.02 was released)and you can't even find anything on it on squares website
So I think this game can fall under that category.
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Sad Jari
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That is what people distributing this "abandonware" would like you to believe, yes. Thing is, it has nothing to do with law. If you get caught with "abandonware", you'll be just as guilty as if you were caught with a pirated copy of Half-Life 2.
No, I have nothing against distributing old games that you really can't get from anywhere. Like Master of Magic, good luck finding it. Getting Final Fantasy VII is not even hard, though. You can get even a brand new copies with few clicks of a mouse. Don't like the platform? Tough luck, but it doesn't justify piracy.
There is another kind of "abandonware" too, but you might call it freeware as well. Some old games, such as Betrayal at Krondor, GTA 1 & 2 and few others have been released into the freeware domain by the people who have the right to do so.
Big surprise, considering that Square never released it for PC. Better try the people who did.Since the last patch made for the game was made a few years ago ( not sure when 1.02 was released)and you can't even find anything on it on squares website
Besides, what's this "last patch made for the game was made a few years ago"-justification, anyway? The companies can't seriously be expected to support every title in their back catalog indefinitely. They would need ever increasing horde of programmers to just take care of titles that are not bringing in any cash.
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steven
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you have have some good points, but this site mostly deals with modding the pc ver (say improving the char models and creating a harder mode and such), but it is only for the pc ver. Say someone wants to try out some of this stuff they can only do so with a legal copy (there is a tread saying you only support legal copys) Since the PC ver is not sold at any stores anymore how can someone buy a legal copy to try some of this? (of course this would make a good argument why to suport downloaded copys, but that will be left for another day)
Also they make patches for games when bugs arise in the game that needs to be corected. Well I can understand how they can't come out with patches all the time for everone of there games, they can at least deal with any major problume that do pop up they could have at least delt with the bugd that happen if you use a computer that is way above the system specs (the super fast motercycle minigame and the chocobo racing)
So I would have to say
*If they stoped making and selling the PC ver of the game in stores
*they stoped suportin the game and releasing any patch the fix the bugs that pop up
then I think it can and should be called abandonware
ps: also this game was made for windows 95! and microsoft recently stoped suportion 98 (I think a year or 2 ago)
ps: on the faqs for there site
http://support.eidosinteractive.com...altList=true&game=79&platform=3&problemType=8
it said about replacement disks
Please Note: The following titles have been discontinued, replacement disks or manuals are no longer available.
and guess what Final Fantasy VII (7) is on that list.
Also they make patches for games when bugs arise in the game that needs to be corected. Well I can understand how they can't come out with patches all the time for everone of there games, they can at least deal with any major problume that do pop up they could have at least delt with the bugd that happen if you use a computer that is way above the system specs (the super fast motercycle minigame and the chocobo racing)
So I would have to say
*If they stoped making and selling the PC ver of the game in stores
*they stoped suportin the game and releasing any patch the fix the bugs that pop up
then I think it can and should be called abandonware
ps: also this game was made for windows 95! and microsoft recently stoped suportion 98 (I think a year or 2 ago)
ps: on the faqs for there site
http://support.eidosinteractive.com...altList=true&game=79&platform=3&problemType=8
it said about replacement disks
Please Note: The following titles have been discontinued, replacement disks or manuals are no longer available.
and guess what Final Fantasy VII (7) is on that list.
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Sad Jari
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No, it would not make a good argument. Face it, there is no such thing as good reason for supporting pirated software.
I guess that you'll have to buy second hand then, if you can't find new ones. Available for example from the very same Amazon I just linked to. Very likely also available from such places as eBay.
Read my post above for a very good reason why there are no patches coming.
If people really want a lifetime support, they should be suggesting a support contracts with a monthly fee to the game makers. Then it might make a sense to support old games that do not generate cash anymore.
*sigh*
Dude, can I "borrow" (steal) the first vintage car I happen to see? Because one of my army buddies has a really nice '59 de Ville, quite a gas guzzler, but looks nice. Surely he wouldn't mind if I just took it?
I'm pretty sure that support for it from a Cadillac dealer is starting to be pretty non-existent these days. And you can't buy a new one from the stores, either.
Thus it's abandonware, right?
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steven
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a car and a pice of software are 2 diffrent things. With cars there are x ammount of them around, but with software or games you can make copys of them all day long. They can make copys of a gmae a lot easer then a car. Alsoif you bye a game second hand the company that made the game dose not get 1 cent from the sell so to them it is the same as downloading a copy off say bit torrent becuase the only thing that would mean is your disks look prittier thats it. Besides you don't know what kinda of shape the disks will be in if you are getting a used game.
ps: I think I remember hearing about some kind of law or something about selling used pc games in the usa am I crazy or is there something like that?
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Sad Jari
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Of course they can. I was just pointing out that "not supported anymore" is not a valid reason for stealing something.
Car manufacturers don't get a dime from second hand sales either, for that matter.
Actually, the car analogy is valid here; by downloading a copy you are depriving some owner of FF7 the possibility of selling it and thus making the used game less valuable (in money).
Life's a bitch and then you die, as they say. In other words; that's an excuse and not a very good one, either. Yes, some people sell discs that should have been destroyed long time ago. But eBay and the like have seller rating systems, so you can check if they have done such things in past.
Hey, if you are really worried about such things, let's trade places. I'll happily worry all day long about people selling scratched discs, if you take my worries. Deal?
Besides, I recall hearing lots of complaining how certain downloaded versions don't work. You could say something about poetic justice, but you could also say that these downloaded versions don't seem to be much better than the possibility of getting discs that have been used as cat's toys.
Don't remember hearing about such thing, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if it was true. Considering all the DMCAs and other nice stuff. Still, these things are worth investigating further because often there are lots of unfounded rumors going around; like the 'it's legal to try this software for 24 hours, if you delete it afterwards' and 'fansubbing is legal'. Neither of them are true, yet lots of people still believe that the latter is.
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Otokoshi
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To answer your question, no you may not be crazy. I don't think you understand copyright or ownership of licences. It seems you are trying to justify downloading a game illegally just because it is old. The fact is, whoever owns the rights to Final Fantasy VII owns them until they die or they sell the rights to another. They can allow a game developer to create a remake of the game at any time, then make a deal with a publisher to get it back on the shelves in time for Christmas.
Are you serious? Once a person buys any product, they own the rights to that product. That is why it is perfectly legal to by a CD or even a vinyl record and rip them to a mp3 format. You own the rights, so you can manipulate your property at your own free will.
Scenario:
Let's use your logic with the example of a car purchase mentioned earlier. John steals a car, then sells the car to Fred. If Fred knew the car was stolen property upon purchase, when caught, he would share a cell with John in prison. If Fred didn't know the car was stolen property, it would still be siezed by the authorities.(At least in the United States.)
The ownership of those "prittier disks" is the difference between being a consumer and a criminal. If you buy the game second-hand than thats between you and the selling party. They could choose to give you the game at no charge. They no longer have value in the property for their use, they feel they don't need your money, and don't want to bother trying to sell it to another.
Attaining ownership comes down to just simple economics, supply and demand. I understand that a price for the PC version is high. Amazon has used ones starting at over $55. I remember a few years ago when the platinum edition sold for like $20 at Costco, but that's they way it works. Limited supply (discontinued publishing) and an obvious demand for the product creates its current price in the market.
The only time a product becomes "abandonware" is when the owner to the property releases it to the public. Sad Jari made a fine example with the release of older GTA games. Electronic Arts has also released old versions of their sports games. I remember a release for NHL '97 a year or two ago.
Once a game developer releases its product, it does not have to patch the product. They do this to save face and to keep the consumer happy. Your idea of a never ending patching process for every game, and if stopped therefore dubbed abandonware, is ludacris.
What does Microsoft support for their operating system and an Eidos Interactive game have to do with anything?
The game was not made for windows 95, but it is supported by it. The American release date for the PC version was May 31, 1998. The game is supported by Windows 95, 98, ME, and 2000.
Sorry, there is no way you can make an argument that justifies piracy.
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I'll get back on topic. I don't think you could make a pack using the psx videos. There is no way to prove the one downloading it owns both the psx and pc version of the game. Someone could just make a really detailed tutorial, if it's really needed. The fact that this works is great news anyways.
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