FF7 Remake general thread

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After seeing Cloud's design in Smash Bros, it does kinda make me like the "realistic" look a little less.  However, this can still be a good game in its own right.   It's been 20 years since the original came out.  I'm more than happy to revisit all the familiar characters in a new imagining of the story.

In my opinion, the only misstep made in the compilation was Dirge of Cerberus.  Before Crisis, Crisis Core, the novellas, and even Advent Children were decent/respectable additions to the FF7 universe.  It's probably fair to say that if you liked the compilation, you'll like the remake.  If you hated it and thought everything was blasphemous, you'll hate the remake.
 
It kinda makes sense that cloud is sickly pale. He has been in a tank for five years, and catatonic afterwards. Or am i remembering things wrong?  It has been a while since i even though about the game
 
This looks like it might be fun. I'm actually a big fan of the KH gameplay, so it doesn't bother me at all to see them reusing that. I'm less a fan of some of the visual choices they've made, and I never liked this voice cast. Seems like this can probably only be enjoyable taken as an entirely new thing and pretending it's not a remake.
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This is probably what I'll end up doing in the end. I'm actually into real time gameplay most of the time. I too am mostly upset with some of the visual choices (mostly Cloud). Too bad they haven't shown Tifa yet, the one thing that they could have distracted me with...


In my opinion, the only misstep made in the compilation was Dirge of Cerberus.  Before Crisis, Crisis Core, the novellas, and even Advent Children were decent/respectable additions to the FF7 universe.  It's probably fair to say that if you liked the compilation, you'll like the remake.  If you hated it and thought everything was blasphemous, you'll hate the remake.
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I actually had fun with Dirge of Cerberus when I was younger. I don't think any of them are horrible in their own right, but the original was truly something special that the spinoffs felt like dilutions of. Being mediocre or just a bit better than that is not good enough to be worthy of the original in my opinion, and even though I am going to get this remake and have fun with it, if it isn't pretty spectacular I will be a little disappointed.

It kinda makes sense that cloud is sickly pale. He has been in a tank for five years, and catatonic afterwards. Or am i remembering things wrong?  It has been a while since i even though about the game
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If I have to rationalize why something looks dumb it probably could have looked better regardless...
 
I wish the general criticism found here was common elsewhere.  But, like usual, it seems 10-1 in favour of fanboyism and hype. I don't think most of the fanbase, or what's left of it, even realizes what made the original game so good. Maybe for a lot of people having a "cool" character and a "hot babe" was enough to get them puking out 10/10. But that's not why I liked it.
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While I don't like dislike modern games, there's nothing interesting or cool about this trailer.. it's just marketing for the fanboys. I know now to leave this game alone as it will only disappoint me. If they had something new and novel that would honestly upgrade the original, ala Resident Evil-style, they would of shown something of it by now.. It's obvious they have no clue what they're doing, unfortunately.
 
I played Dirge of Cerberus, but I think it's the weakest in the compilation.  The gameplay was decent I suppose, neither spectacular or horrible.  I just think they altered the story too much.  The addition of deepground (?) was a far cry from the original.  The other titles in the compilation built off of existing lore, whereas DoC seemingly just added its own.

I do think the addition of Genesis could have been really interesting.  All the G reports in Dirge and his change to a good guy at the end of Crisis Core could have made for an interesting sequel.  It gave him some depth.  I just don't think his character was handled well in CC.  All the poem reading was a bit over the top for me.

Nothing will ever be the original though.  That was the first experience many of us had for such a huge story.  Even with the clunky translation, it always felt like an epic quest.  The FMVs were amazing.  The 3D wasn't the best for its time, but it still wowed us.  It's unlikely we'll ever get that same enjoyment out of a video game ever again.
 
I got a very close feeling to VII when I played FFX.  In fact, I loved the series until X-2 came along.  The direction then  changed completely post Sakaguchi and hasn't looked back since.
 
Oh my lord, get the wahmbulance.

If you don't like this then just play the original.

Like seriously these problems people have are so damn nitpicky.

Everyone and their mother has wanted a remake, you got it after more than a decade, just deal with it.

You know what you get with Nomura. We all know he is a narcissistic turd that hasn't produced anything good in a long time.

Regardless, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy it.
 
Didn't really like Dirge, just didn't feel right, felt slower than I kinda expected it to be, don't even remember much about it other than a few bits in bobs.
 
If you don't like this then just play the original.
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People who say that need to be shot. It's become a tired cliche when someone criticizes something. Those of us who have a problem with this remake have just as much right to post as someone who, for some bizarre reason, like it (apart from the ones who have been shot  ;D ).  We don't need to do anything. 

We certainly will "just play the original" - a game that had a soul and led to the enormous support that led to this remake. But we will also continue to post our feelings on the remake - which we feel (so far... and unlikely to change) is a crappy, soulless, little cash in, aimed at what I usually term the lowest common denominator.

My opinion on this remake is based on what I've seen, and I have every right to be annoyed at it and especially the direction that games continue to head in.

Also, I can assure you I have been very consistent in NOT WANTING A REMAKE for the last five years - and all based on what that trailer is clearly showing us has occurred.
 
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I thought X was okay.  It just never really pulled me into the story.  I personally blame the voice acting; if it's not great, the game always suffers (and I'm not the biggest fan of the FF7 voice actors, though it could just be a problem with the director).  The only other games I've played that really pulled me into their environment and made me daydream of playing was Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, and The Last of Us.
 
The VO in FFX is some of the worst next to mid 90's stuff, see also the original Resident Evil.

Wakka being a prime offender along with that damn laughing scene, DiMaggio is normally great but they wanted Wakka to sound Samoan or Maori or something like that and he just sounds like an idiot.
 
I personally blame the voice acting
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"HA-HA-HA"

On another note though, it kind of reminds me (from afar) of Type-0, which is a very good game by itself, even though it originally was tied to the FFXIII universe. I played it thinking of it as a standalone game, and it did me wonders. If I'm going to play the remake, I'm going to play with that mindset again, in that it's a different game and not the original.

While I do agree that after FFX the quality went down by FF standards, it doesn't mean the games are bad by themselves. The games ARE good. FFXII was really great, I loved it. I quite enjoyed FFXIII, and I'm currently enjoying FFXIII-2. I'm not going to let nostalgia prevent me from playing new games, although lately I've been replaying FFIV. Classics are immuable, and they remain classics. New games are new experiences, and they may or may not become classics in their lifetime. FFVII wasn't a classic when it came out early in 1997. It became so over time. Let's say you disliked FFVI, would you have not played FFVII because of that? Well, you'd have missed out on a great game let me tell you that!

Just my perception on the whole thing.
 
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Sooooo... turn based?
 
FFXII behaved very much in this way; this was real-time but you had your ATB fill up before you could act. FFXIII was similar yet different; haven't played the more recent ones. If they went for this venue in XII/XIII, this wouldn't surprise me if they decided to go there for this one too.
 
People who say that need to be shot. It's become a tired cliche when someone criticizes something. Those of us who have a problem with this remake have just as much right to post as someone who, for some bizarre reason, like it (apart from the ones who have been shot  ;D ).  We don't need to do anything. 
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Yes, but saying it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again doesn't add to the discussion. Once you've voiced your concerns, repeating them ad nauseum really does come across as senseless whining.
 
Sooooo... turn based?
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I noticed the defend, hence why I edited my first post to say something more along the lines of that it might still be turn based because when I watched it again technically nothing was shown that explicitly showed it being in real time. Nice find with the ATB bar though, I missed it and could give more hope that it might still be turn based.

Edit: On another note - I'm still pissed that he looks nothing like either the new Dissidia Cloud or the Smash Bros Cloud, both of which look much better from a design perspective. The Cloud in this trailer is the worst looking one I've seen yet IMO.

Edit 2: Kitase says that he cannot say that the FF7 remake is completely action-oriented (or something along those lines) here -
 
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Since this is going to be on the PC as well, will it be possible to mod the face so that Cloud doesn't look like he is a meth addict?
 
Yes, but saying it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again doesn't add to the discussion. Once you've voiced your concerns, repeating them ad nauseum really does come across as senseless whining.
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Pretty rude. So do people saying how awesome it is and how the rest of us need to stop criticizing.  When that stops, I guess the rest of us will. There is nothing more annoying than a hype machine that keeps on rolling.  If it is a whinge, so be it. I think you're a tad annoyed that pretty much everything I said would happen - did.  And Star Wars is next.  ;)

"I don't care about your politicsssss"

Since this is going to be on the PC as well, will it be possible to mod the face so that Cloud doesn't look like he is a meth addict?
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lmao.  I know you're semi joking but... even if possible, most forums won't allow that content change to be hosted.  Plus the biggest issue aside from how crap "new" Cloud looks... is how he sounds.  There really is no fixing that. Plus I'm getting the distinct impression that things are far worse than I predicted, because the changes they've made to the script (total rewrite) imho are much worse than I expected. Some Hollywood type drivel included. I spotted the odd cliche line in there too.

On the "turn based" - having a "defend" option doesn't really say much.  They've probably just incorporated half damage as you're running around as normal in realtime. You never know, but it's a slim hope. They've changed absolutely everything else, so it's very unlikely they've kept something that a few of us "dinosaurs" actually found appealing.  The trailer does seem to support a more real-time oriented system.
 
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You do realize this is just a video, in like what is it Alpha state? I don't even know. I haven't really researched much about it. Which may sound odd, but in an ideal state I would have ignored my curiosity for the trailers and just awaited the games release. Whenever that will be.

It seems though that SE is using a similar battle system as XV, and why wouldn't they? Save both money and time.

The negative stuff for me was the sunglasses for Barrett, that seems really off. I know it's because it looks "cool" but still. Cloud looks a bit off maybe, I think it's hard too say since the pacing was quite fast in the trailer. But I really dislike the crouching and moving through rubble, I have done that a million times in other games I don't need it here.
 
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