[FF7PC-98] Beacause - FF7 Retranslation (Merged into Reunion, use that instead)

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I think part of the trouble with the names is that the monsters are mutated forms of classical mythological monsters and animals because of Jenova. So they probably gave them mutated names based on the mutation.

キャッパワイヤ is probably Kappa Wire. Possibly a kappa mutated to hold electricity...

シェザーシザー is probably Caesar Scissors. Possibly a mutated form of the king crab.

チュースタンク might be 中枢 Tank for Backbone Tank. Seems likely since it looks like a seahorse. Might be an offspelling of Choose.
 
No I don't think they are mutated... because the vast majority aren't :)  I think they are using mythology, names, or foreign languages we simply aren't able to find.

Kappa for example is a mythological monster with its own spelling.  That monster there comes out at cappa or cap...  unless the designer made a mistake of it...
 
Kana doesn't match copper or caper.  They always use aa for -er.  I mean it could just mean cap. /cappa  or it might have meant kappa but  a big mistake....


Capparis spinosa  <  Sounds reasonable.  Although v unlikely... so obscure.
 
Yeah, :/.

The kana doesn't match Cap either, as it usually ends in a プ. The Turk's Cap Lily doesn't look anything like it, since it's a flower, and mostly used for peaceful events.

It could be a mixed version of Cap and Caper.

キャッ is the ca- part of cap, but also a sound effect for laughing or shrieking "Kya~".
ッパー is the last -ppa part of caper, ケッパー.

Combining them, and dropping the r from Caper, would get you キャッパ for Cape or Capp.

But, キャッパ could be "Kyappa" named after the shrieking sound effect, aka Mandragora. Since there's already a Mandragora, maybe it was a well-liked candidate that was allowed into the game.
 
Kyappa was mentioned by LUksy once but he had some reason against it... I will ask him :P
 
The Boss, character, goes back to Big Bro.

I am told by luksy it is more of a title for someone part of your group "brotherhood" in this context, and since he is supposed to be a camp cross dresser I think nothing really does the lit. "elder brother" as much justice as the original.
 
I noticed that ボトムスウェル should be Bottom Swell. He's probably named after his main attack, since a swell is a wave that has no local origin. It's probably a variation on "ground swell".

フラワープラング is probably Flower Plunge. It usually ends in a ji, but it could be mistaken for sounding like "ung". It's pretty common, :D.

フォールランダ is Fall Rangda. The "Fall" part of the name could be a spelling of something else that looks like it has a similar pronunciation to "fall". "Foul", possibly, considering it's just four with an l added, on the surface. It's weird that it has four legs...

バジガンディ is probably Basilisk Gandhi, thanks to Gemini, :D. Baji are the first two symbols for basilisk, but could also stand for bhaji, so it seems like a pun.

ギロフェルゴ could be Guillofell Ghost. Sometimes ゴ is used as shorthand for ghost...

マゴグランガラン is possibly Grand Garan. Garan is a temple, but it's a temple or temple complex usually made of smaller temples like a Matryoshka doll has several smaller dolls in it.

グラシュトライク is definitely Gura Strike. シュト is used to shorten Suto to St, giving you Strike. グラ could be short for グラグラ for unstable. Or it could be short for ground.

ジェジュジェミ has to be Jeju Jaemi (제주 재미) or something close in Korean. It's a Korean-based phrase with all the j's (say that 3 times fast). Jeju is an island that's a top vacation spot in South Korea. Roughly translates as "Jeju Fun". Since it's found in Wutai, a vacation spot in FF7, it might be related.

ジェミニスミー is directly Geminis Me. I wonder if they were going for Geminice Me, like a pat on the back for making her, but didn't want it overly obvious.

ゲルシュメルゼ is probably right as Gel Schmelze.  ;D, Yellow Melt.

キュルビヌュ is strange. It sounds like an amalgation of Kill and Cube that rhymes with "killer bee". Nuu might be a sound effect... "Killuby ~Woo~"?

キュビルデュヌス is also weird, "Cubil Dunus".

Latin:
It looks like "Cubile duonus" in Latin, possibly. Cubile can mean "hive", and duonus is an old Latin form of bonus, which can mean "brave" or "of honor". Seems likely, since I can't find any other word for "Dunus".

Kanji:
Kyubiru could be on-yomi pronunciation of kyu-bi-ru. None of the combinations I made had any sense to me...

マドゥジュ seems to be Madhu Ju. Madhu can refer to the demon, but can also mean something honeyish or liquid-like, since it's a swamp creature. Possibly मधु जू. This one has me stumped.

マグナード is probably マグナー奴 for Magna Slave. He's weak to gravity, so it's likely that.

プドゥレア might be Latin for Pudor Rea combined as Pudorea. Pudor means "a sense of shame", or shyness, and rea is "guilty of". Possible, since it's in a shell...

リルフサック could be Lil 芙 Saccus for Lil Lotus Saccus. The first two symbols transcribe lil, lill, or rill. フ has to be an on-yomi spelling of a kanji symbol, and サック is based on sacc, a loanword that was taken from saccus in Latin.

ヴァギドポリス might be Vagido polis, Portuguese/Spanish for moans/wails and Latin for city (many). Those were the only two languages that vagido made sense.

ゼムゼレット - The Muselet fits very well, but probably isn't it. It's probably a shorthand form based on Simon the Zealot, Sim Zealot.

ゼネネ is tough. ネネ could be short for ねるねる, for slimy. Possibly Zenenet, Egyptian goddess of beer, but probably not. It could be a name based on "gene".
 
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  • バジガンディ  Bajighandi.  Unlikely.  Unknown.  Ghandi seems fine?
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Basilisk Gandhi, where Gandhi is this indian dish (the yellow/brown one):
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It's just a Basilisk colored like the dish itself, nothing really related to Mahatma Gandhi.
 
;D  cool!

Info will added.  I will get back later with what I am altering from that list too.  Not much I am guessing but overall very worthwhile because we have already had a few corrections.
 
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I noticed that ボトムスウェル should be Bottom Swell. He's probably named after his main attack, since a swell is a wave that has no local origin. It's probably a variation on "ground swell".
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It could be either...  Bottom Swell, Bottoms Well.  Well also hold water.  However, yours sounds a tad more realistic.

フラワープラング is probably Flower Plunge. It usually ends in a ji, but it could be mistaken for sounding like "ung". It's pretty common
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I thought that at first but Luksy reminded me the kana is simply wrong here even if it is used sometimes elsewhere.  Maybe as you say it is a mistake....

フォールランダ is Fall Rangda. The "Fall" part of the name could be a spelling of something else that looks like it has a similar pronunciation to "fall". "Foul", possibly, considering it's just four with an l added, on the surface. It's weird that it has four legs...
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Pretty sure the Fall part means autumn.  I forget which now, but there are animals/creatures named Fall.
Foul definitely not...  wrong kana.

バジガンディ is probably Basilisk Gandhi
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Basigandhi is closer I think. But I will think about the full.

ギロフェルゴ could be Guillofell Ghost. Sometimes ゴ is used as shorthand for ghost...
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One for Luksy.  Sounds unlikely?

マゴグランガラン is possibly Grand Garan. Garan is a temple, but it's a temple or temple complex usually made of smaller temples like a Matryoshka doll has several smaller dolls in it.
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Definitely Gran with kana...  Garan or garang for rest.  Guess we will never know.

グラシュトライク is definitely Gura Strike. シュト is used to shorten Suto to St, giving you Strike. グラ could be short for グラグラ for unstable. Or it could be short for ground
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Strike is different kana, and Gura is too far fetched.  Also this is a tricycle, so trike sounds much more logical.  It could just be a mispelling for Crash.

ジェジュジェミ has to be Jeju Jaemi (제주 재미) or something close in Korean. It's a Korean-based phrase with all the j's (say that 3 times fast). Jeju is an island that's a top vacation spot in South Korea. Roughly translates as "Jeju Fun". Since it's found in Wutai, a vacation spot in FF7, it might be related.
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Will look into it.

ゲルシュメルゼ is probably right as Gel Schmelze.  ;D, Yellow Melt
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and frozen and melting.

キュルビヌュ is strange. It sounds like an amalgation of Kill and Cube that rhymes with "killer bee". Nuu might be a sound effect... "Killuby ~Woo~"?
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No idea...  we went with Curvinue,

マグナード is probably マグナー奴 for Magna Slave. He's weak to gravity, so it's likely that.
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Again that is a stretch because the Japanese is different.  perhaps that is an origin, but Magna means great, so I would think that is the likely reason.

リルフサック could be Lil 芙 Saccus for Lil Lotus Saccus. The first two symbols transcribe lil, lill, or rill. フ has to be an on-yomi spelling of a kanji symbol, and サック is based on sacc, a loanword that was taken from saccus in Latin.
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Will look into it, but Suck seems more more likely given it has a move called Blood suck.

ヴァギドポリス might be Vagido polis, Portuguese/Spanish for moans/wails and Latin for city (many). Those were the only two languages that vagido made sense.
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Yup that is what I had down for this one from start... it does seem likely.

ゼネネ is tough. ネネ could be short for ねるねる, for slimy. Possibly Zenenet, Egyptian goddess of beer, but probably not. It could be a name based on "gene".
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Yup, gene may be there....
 
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Thanks for contributions and ideas.  A few corrections to add to the main document.
 
No problem, :D. Hope I helped a bit.

グラ シュトライク - シュト and スト are both ways of converting "st" even though ストライク is the de facto spelling. They could have done it on purpose to emphasize something. I also found out that gura is another name for 迦羅求羅, for imaginary insects. Could be gura shoot trike...

http://nichiren.info/gosho/DifficultySustainingFaith.htm

キュルビヌュ - I have a feeling that it's cul venue in French. Informally it means "Luck coming" which is possible for a 6-sided die. Cul usually means the bottom part of something, however, and it's currently derogatory for "ass" in French, though that might not have been the case in the mid 1990's.
 
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I have updated the first page to better reflect credits.  From this point on, we will translate and localise based on maps and not the game order.  The excel database is now taken down, and will be used up to Wallmarket.

This is because map approach is much easier now with regards to touphScript and workload.  Excel was also more annoying to keep track of.

The progress report is as follows:

Total maps: 712 (inc world map dialogue)


  • No text: 16
  • No dialogue (completed): 121
  • Debug (Not being edited): 13
  • Dialogue (completed): 35
  • Dialogue (not completed): 527

    Of the dialogue not completed, this is how it breaks down:
  • Over 12KB: 7
  • 10-12 KB: 8
  • 7-9 KB: 29
  • 4-6 KB: 89
  • 2-3 KB: 178
  • 1 KB: 216


So as you can see the majority to do are less than 4KB.  The 1-3 KB should not pose much issue.  1 of the over 12 KB's (Beginner Hall) has already been completed and added to completed list (above).

A realistic aim is 6 months.  The 1 KB ones could be done realistically 10 a day.  Meaning  22 days.  It is hard to say for sure, but it is doable in a reasonable time frame.

The other text is

kernel.bin,
kernel2.bin,
FF7.exe,
Scene.bin

All of these have been translated and updated.

As of today, Up to the train leaving District 7 has been done.
 
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I noticed a strange comment by Cloud.
In Reactor 1 when Cloud, Jesse and Barret are in the elevator together, Cloud says "I just wanna get this job before the Roboguards get here."
Shouldn't there be an 'over' or 'done' in there?

The story flows so much better with the ReTranslation.
Now the conversations make sense and aren't so confused.
Before, I always had a feeling that I was missing parts of the conversation.
Now I realize it was just a poor translation.

Thanks!
 
If I missed that, it has already been corrected :)  There will be a few niggles like that, especially until i get covarr to go through it for grammar and so forth.  I have gone over the start of the game again and made it a tad better too.

I do make big efforts to cut out most mistakes.  And yeah... there are tons of things like that.  For example, no one told Baskett that Seventh Heaven is a bar... so Tifa says she will fill the store with flowers.

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{BARRET}
“Heh heh…”{NEW}
“You wanna see your baby?”
{CHOICE}My baby?
{CHOICE}Out of my way

{BARRET}
“Heh heh…”{NEW}
“You wanna see your childhood friend?”
{CHOICE}Childhood friend?
{CHOICE}Out of my way

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Wow... I always thought 'baby' was a teasing way of saying 'sweetheart.'
 
Yeah in fact that entire section , childhood friend is used for the nickname of cloud, because the "whole district"overhears his convo with Tifa.

But barrett's dialogue is exposition for we, the audience.
 
I am pleased how this part went, both translation and localisation.  The thing to remember is that cloud's inner self is talking to him about the time he fell off the Nibl bridge. 

Compare the 2 scenes

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church in the slums------------------------------{GRAY}…You all right?{GRAY}------------------------------{GRAY}…Can you hear me?{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“…Yeah…”------------------------------{GRAY}Back then…I only gotscraped knees…{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“…What do you mean by 'back then'?”------------------------------{GRAY}What about now?Can you get up?{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“…What do you mean by 'back then'? …What about now?”------------------------------{GRAY}…Don't worry about me.Worry about yourself now.{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“…I'll try.”------------------------------{GRAY}…How about that?{GRAY}------------------------------{GRAY}Take it slow now.Little by little……{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“…I know.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Hey…who are you?”------------------------------“Oh! It moved!”------------------------------“Whew… What relief.”------------------------------“Hello, hello?”------------------------------“Hello, hello!”------------------------------“You okay?”------------------------------“You just fell from above. You really gave me a scare.”------------------------------“This is a church in  the Sector 5 slums.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…I came crashing down?”------------------------------“The roof and the flower bed  must have broken your fall. You're lucky.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Flower bed…is this yours?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Sorry about that.”------------------------------“That's all right. The flowers here are quite resilient because this is a sacred place.”------------------------------“They say grass and flowers won't grow in Midgar.”{NEW}“But for some reason, they have no trouble blooming here.”------------------------------“I love it here.”------------------------------“So, we meet again.”------------------------------“Don't you remember me?”{CHOICE}Yeah, I remember…{CHOICE}Never saw you before------------------------------{CLOUD}“Yeah, I remember…”   You were selling flowers   You're the slum drunk------------------------------“Oh! I'm so happy!”------------------------------“Excuse me, but you're really rude!”------------------------------“…I guess you don't remember. You were walking in a daze.”------------------------------“Thanks for buying my flowers.”------------------------------“You didn't buy any flowers from me though.”------------------------------“But I forgive you, because you bought flowers from me.”------------------------------“I don't remember a thing.”------------------------------“Well, that's okay.”------------------------------“Say, do you have any Materia?”------------------------------“Yes, some.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Nowadays you can find Materia anywhere.”------------------------------“But mine is special. It's good for absolutely nothing.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…good for nothing? You just don't know how to use it.”------------------------------“No, I do… it just doesn't do anything.”{NEW}“I feel safe just having it. It was my mother's.”------------------------------“Say, I feel like talking. Do you feel up to it?”{NEW}“After all, here we are meeting again.”{CHOICE}I don't mind{CHOICE}Got nothing to talk about------------------------------“Wait here. I've got to check my flowers. It'll just be a minute.”------------------------------“…Oh, I see.”------------------------------“Ahhh. I wonder whose fault that is. It's not easy to grow them, you know. Poor flowers.”------------------------------“Just a little longer.”------------------------------“Oh!”------------------------------“Now that you mention it…”------------------------------“We don't know each other's names, do we?”------------------------------“My name is…”------------------------------“I'm {AERIS}, the flower girl. Nice to meet you.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“The name's {CLOUD}.”{NEW}“Me? I do a little bit of everything.”------------------------------{AERIS}“Oh…a jack of all trades.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Yeah, I do whatever's needed.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“What's so funny? What are you laughing at?”------------------------------{AERIS}“Sorry, I just…”------------------------------{AERIS}“{CLOUD}! Don't let it get to you!”------------------------------{AERIS}“Sorry, bad timing on my part.”------------------------------{AERIS}“Say, {CLOUD}. Have you ever been a bodyguard?”------------------------------{AERIS}“You CAN do anything, right?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Yeah, that's right.”------------------------------{AERIS}“Then, get me out of here. Take me home.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“OK… but it'll cost you.”------------------------------{AERIS}“OK then, let's see…”------------------------------{AERIS}“How about if I go out with you once?”------------------------------“Don't mind me.”------------------------------“I'll give you a little more time.”------------------------------Reno“They were…Mako eyes.”------------------------------Reno“Yeah, all right. C'mon, get to work.”------------------------------Reno“Oh!”------------------------------Reno“And don't step on the flowers…”------------------------------“You just stepped on them yourself!”------------------------------“They're ruined!”------------------------------“You're gonna catch holy hell!”------------------------------

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Church in the Slums------------------------------{GRAY}…You all right?{GRAY}------------------------------{GRAY}…Can you hear me?{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“……Yeah.”------------------------------{GRAY}Back then…you got away with it.Only scraped your knees…{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“……Back then?”------------------------------{GRAY}What about this time?Do you think can you get up?{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“……Back then? ……This time?”------------------------------{GRAY}You should be thinkingabout your body for now.{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“……Let's give it a shot.”------------------------------{GRAY}…How do you feel?{GRAY}------------------------------{GRAY}Slowly now.Little by little……{GRAY}------------------------------{CLOUD}“…All right,I get it.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Hey…… who are you?”------------------------------“Oh! He moved!”------------------------------“Whew… Thank heavens.”------------------------------“Hello?”------------------------------“Hellooooo!”------------------------------“Are you okay?”------------------------------“You fell straight out of the sky. It gave me quite a scare.”------------------------------“This is a church in the slums. District 5.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“……I fell?”------------------------------“The roof and the flower bed  must have broken your fall. You're lucky.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Flower bed… is this yours?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Sorry about that.”------------------------------“Oh,don't worry. The flowers are quite resilient and this place is special too.”------------------------------“In Midgar… You know that grass and flowers hardly grow?”{NEW}“Well here,they have no trouble blooming.”------------------------------“I like it here.”------------------------------“……We meet again.”------------------------------“…Don't you remember me?”{CHOICE}(Yeah,I've met you before){CHOICE}(This is the first time we've met)------------------------------{CLOUD}“Yeah,I remember.”{CHOICE}You were selling flowers{CHOICE}You're a slum drunk------------------------------“Oh! I'm so happy!”------------------------------“Well,you're rude!”------------------------------“…I guess you don't remember. You did seem like you had your head in the clouds.”------------------------------“Thanks for buying a flower back then.”------------------------------“But you didn't buy a flower did you?”------------------------------“Still,you bought a flower from me so I'll forgive you.”------------------------------“I don't remember a thing.”------------------------------“Well,it's okay.”------------------------------“You have some Materia,don't you?”------------------------------“I have one too.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Materia isn't rare at all these days.”------------------------------“But mine is special. It doesn't do anything.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…Doesn't do anythin'? You sure you know how to use it?”------------------------------“It's not that… I don't mind that it's useless.”{NEW}“I feel safe when I wear it. My mother left it to me……”------------------------------“Say,I feel like talking. Do you feel up to it?”{NEW}“After all, we did meet again… right?”{CHOICE}Sure,why not{CHOICE}Got nothing to talk about------------------------------“Good,wait here. I just have to tend to the flowers, it won't take too long.”------------------------------“……I see.”------------------------------“Aaaah. I wonder whose fault this is? They were growing so well too. Poor flowers.”------------------------------“Just a little longer.”------------------------------“Oh!”------------------------------“Come to think of it…”------------------------------“We still don't know each other's names,do we?”------------------------------“I'm…”------------------------------“…the flower lady,{AERIS}. Nice to meet you.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“The name's {CLOUD}.”{NEW}“My job's... Well,I do a bit of everythin'.”------------------------------{AERIS}“So… a Jack of all trades.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“I do what needs to be done.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“What's so funny!? Why are you laughing?”------------------------------{AERIS}“I'm sorry,it's just…”------------------------------{AERIS}“{CLOUD}! Don't let it get to you!”------------------------------{AERIS}“Sorry,this is bad timing.”------------------------------{AERIS}“Hey,{CLOUD}. Does your job include being a bodyguard?”------------------------------{AERIS}“You're a Jack of all trades,right?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…I suppose.”------------------------------{AERIS}“Then,get me out of here. Take me home.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“All right,I accept… But it won't come cheap.”------------------------------{AERIS}“Let's see then……”------------------------------{AERIS}“A date!”------------------------------“Don't mind me,yeh.”------------------------------“I'll give you a little more time,heh.”------------------------------Leno“Did you see that? That guy's eyes. ……Mako eyes.”------------------------------Leno“Ah well. C'mon,get to work, get to work,eh.”------------------------------Leno“And!”------------------------------Leno“Don't trample on the flowers… yeh?”------------------------------“Mister Leno,you've just stepped on them!”------------------------------“The flowers are all crushed!”------------------------------“She's gonna go crazy!”------------------------------
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{CLOUD}“I don't know who you are, but…”------------------------------{CLOUD}“You don't know me…”------------------------------…I know you.------------------------------{CLOUD}“Oh yeah…I know you.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“That uniform…”------------------------------“…Hey sis,   this one's a little weird.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Shut up! Shinra spy!”------------------------------“Reno!   Want him taken out?”------------------------------Reno“I haven't decided yet.”------------------------------{AERIS}“Don't fight here!   You'll ruin the flowers!”------------------------------{AERIS}“The exit is back there.”
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{CLOUD}“I don't know who you are or where you're from,but…”------------------------------{CLOUD}“You don't…?”------------------------------……I think you do.------------------------------{CLOUD}“Oh yeah…I do know you.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“That uniform's……”------------------------------“…Hey little lady, this guy's a little weird,eh?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Shut up! Shin-Ra lapdog!”------------------------------“Mister Leno! Should we do 'im in?”------------------------------Leno“I haven't decided,yo.”------------------------------{AERIS}“{CLOUD},no. Stop! I don't want you all fighting here, ruining my flowers!”------------------------------{AERIS}“{CLOUD}! The exit's back here.”-
 
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