[FF7PC-98] Beacause - FF7 Retranslation (Merged into Reunion, use that instead)

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The only ones in the standard charmap are µ Σ Π π ∆, you could make your own char sprites of course but it's not particularly easy.
The only thing I'm able to do is translate text files and send them and it would be fun for me and my friend. If there is any way to import Greek fonts... there are ready for example Arial Greek
 
You would have to do what I did, look at the files found in modpath and create place the characters on the texture, then edit window.bin values for the letter spacings (or wait until Luksy adds support for window.bin.txt  :-D
 
You would have to do what I did, look at the files found in modpath and create place the characters on the texture, then edit window.bin values for the letter spacings (or wait until Luksy adds support for window.bin.txt  :-D
Let me look into this so I learn how to. Thanks!

*I looked into mod path. Mine is DK. I can see pngs with characters but can't understand the procedure to create those in that particular format... :-\
 
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I don't have the time to explain it and teach anyone.  I learned myself, it is pretty simple with hex editor for window.bin (after extraction) and a PHOTO editing software for the textures.

Real time editing of values is possible by editing memory addresses around 0099ddaf
 
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Leonhart,
Check out the character png's installed with Avalanche.  They're located in the textures folder.
Compare these old versions to the character textures created by DLPB.
He has truly put a tremendous amount of effort into making every pixel perfect.
 
Leonhart,
Check out the character png's installed with Avalanche.  They're located in the textures folder.
Compare these old versions to the character textures created by DLPB.
He has truly put a tremendous amount of effort into making every pixel perfect.
I'll pm you this is totally off-topic :)
 
Another comparison, this time mostly done but work in progress.  Note that palmer has his own unique noises.

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Shinra Bldg. 70f.------------------------------President Shinra“How are the preparations going?”------------------------------Heidegger“Gya, haa, haa! Smoothly, very smoothly! I assigned the Turks to this.”------------------------------Reeve“President!! Are we really going to do this? Simply destroy a group with only a few members…”------------------------------President Shinra“What's the problem, Reeve? You want out?”------------------------------Reeve“…No.”{NEW}“But, as head of the Urban Development Department, I have been involved in the building and running of Midgar. That's why…”------------------------------Heidegger“Reeve, flush your personal problems with the rest of your crap!”------------------------------Reeve“The Mayor's against this anyway…”------------------------------Heidegger“Mayor?”{NEW}“He just sits in this building all day  feeding his face! You still call that a Mayor?”------------------------------Heidegger“Now if you'll excuse me sir!”------------------------------President Shinra“You're tired. Why don't you take a couple of days off and go somewhere.”------------------------------President Shinra“We'll destroy Sector 7 and report that AVALANCHE did it. Then we'll send in the rescue operation care of Shinra, Inc…. Heh, heh, heh…this is perfect.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“They got you, too?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Where is {AERIS}!?”------------------------------President Shinra“In a safe place.”------------------------------President Shinra“She's the last surviving Ancient…”------------------------------President Shinra“Don't you know? They called themselves the Cetra and lived  thousands of years ago.  Now they are just a forgotten page in history.”------------------------------{RED XIII}“Cetra…that girl is a survivor of the Cetra?”------------------------------President Shinra“Cetra, or the Ancients, will show us the way to the 'Promised Land'. I'm expecting a lot out of her.”------------------------------{RED XIII}“The Promised Land? Isn't that just a legend?”------------------------------President Shinra“Even so, it's far too appealing not to pursue.”{NEW}“It's been said the Promised Land is very fertile.”{NEW}“…If the land is fertile…”------------------------------{BARRET}“then there's gotta be Mako!”------------------------------President Shinra“Exactly. That is why our money-making  Mako Reactor is necessary.”{NEW}“The abundant Mako will flow out on its own.”------------------------------President Shinra“That is where Neo-Midgar will be built. Shinra's new glory…”------------------------------{BARRET}“@$\#*^%! Quit dreamin'!”------------------------------President Shinra“Oh really, don't you know? These days all it takes for your dreams to come true is money and power.”------------------------------President Shinra“Well, that is all for our meeting.”------------------------------{BARRET}“Hold it! I got a lot to say to you!”------------------------------President Shinra“If there's anything else… talk to my secretary.”------------------------------Rude“Come on! Outta his way!”------------------------------{BARRET}“He's dead… The head of Shinra is dead…”------------------------------{TIFA}“Then this sword must be…”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Sephiroth's!!”------------------------------{TIFA}“…Sephiroth is alive?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…Looks like it. Only Sephiroth can use that sword.”------------------------------{BARRET}“Who cares who did it!? This is the end of the Shinra!”------------------------------“Uh!”------------------------------Palmer“P, p, p, please, don't kill me!”------------------------------{CLOUD}“What happened?”------------------------------Palmer“Se…Sephiroth. Sephiroth came.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Did you see him? Did you see Sephiroth?”------------------------------Palmer“Yeah, I saw him! With my own eyes!”------------------------------{CLOUD}“You really saw him?”------------------------------Palmer“Uh! Would I lie at a time like this!? I heard his voice, too!”------------------------------Palmer“Um, he said something about not letting us have the Promised Land.”------------------------------{TIFA}“Then does that mean”{NEW}“the Promised Land really does exist and that Sephiroth's here to save it from Shinra?”------------------------------{BARRET}“So he's a good guy then?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Save the Promised Land? A good guy? No way!!”{NEW}“It's not that simple! I know him! Sephiroth's mission is different!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Rufus! &*%$! I forgot about him!”------------------------------{TIFA}“Who's that?”------------------------------{BARRET}“Vice President Rufus. The President's son.”------------------------------
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Shin-Ra Bldg. 70F------------------------------President Shinra“How are the preparations going?”------------------------------Heidegger“Gya,ha,ha!! Smoothly,very smoothly! I've assigned the Turks to this.”------------------------------Reeve“Mr.President!! Are we really going to do this? Simply to crush a group with only a few members at best…”------------------------------President Shinra“Why this objection now? Do you have something you want to share with us,Reeve?”------------------------------Reeve“…No.”{NEW}“But,as head of Urban Development, I've been involved in the building and running of Midgar. That's why I…”------------------------------Heidegger“Reeve,flush personal problems down the toilet before you set off for work!”------------------------------Reeve“The Mayor's also against this…”------------------------------Heidegger“Mayor!?”{NEW}“That buffoon just sits in the  building all day,feeding his face! You call that a Mayor?”------------------------------Heidegger“Now,if you'll excuse me!”------------------------------President Shinra“You're tired. Take some time off away from here.”------------------------------President Shinra“We'll destroy District 7. The reports will blame Avalanche and the relief operation will be handled by the Shin-Ra Company. Heh,heh,heh… it's perfect.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“They got you,too…?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Where's {AERIS}!”------------------------------President Shinra“In a safe place.”------------------------------President Shinra“She's invaluable to us. The last surviving Ancient…”------------------------------President Shinra“You don't know? They called themselves the Cetra, and lived thousands of years ago. A tribe,long buried in history.”------------------------------{RED XIII}“Cetra… that girl is a survivor of the Cetra?”------------------------------President Shinra“Cetra,or the Ancients,will teach us about the Promised Land. I'm expecting great things from her.”------------------------------{RED XIII}“The Promised Land? That's just a legend?”------------------------------President Shinra“But an enthralling legend. So enticing that it must be persued.”{NEW}“The Promised Land is said to be incredibly fertile.”{NEW}“…And if the land is fertile…”------------------------------{BARRET}“Then there's gotta be Mako!”------------------------------President Shinra“Exactly. We won't even need any cash- craving Mako Reactors there.”{NEW}“The abundant Mako will flow out on its own.”------------------------------President Shinra“That is where Neo-Midgar will be built. Our company's new glory…”------------------------------{BARRET}“Hah! Quit dreamin'!”------------------------------President Shinra“Come now,surely you've realised? These days,all that one requires to make a dream come true is money and power.”------------------------------President Shinra“Well,that concludes your audience.”------------------------------{BARRET}“Hold it right there! I've a truck load of things I gotta say to you,you greedy bastard!”------------------------------President Shinra“If there's anything else…        talk to my secretary.”------------------------------Rude“Come on! Outta his way!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Dead… The leader of Shin-Ra is dead…”------------------------------{TIFA}“What's this sword!?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“That's Sephiroth's!!”------------------------------{TIFA}“…You mean Sephiroth is alive?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…Looks like it. Only Sephiroth could wield that.”------------------------------{BARRET}“Who cares who did it!? Shin-Ra's finished!”------------------------------“U-hyo!”------------------------------Palmer“D-d-d-d-don't kill me!”------------------------------{CLOUD}“What happened?”------------------------------Palmer“Se-Sephiroth. Sephiroth was here.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“You saw him? You saw Sephiroth?”------------------------------Palmer“Yeah,I saw him! With my own eyes!”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Really?”------------------------------Palmer“Uh-hyo! Would I lie at a time like this!? I heard his voice too,uh-hyo!”------------------------------Palmer“Er,he mumbled something about not handing over the Promised Land.”------------------------------{TIFA}“What does that mean?”{NEW}“Does the Promised Land actually exist and Sephiroth came here to save it from Shin-Ra?”------------------------------{BARRET}“So,he's a good guy then?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Save the Promised Land? A good guy? No way!!”{NEW}“It's not that simple! Believe me! Sephiroth must have some other goal!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Rufus! sh*t! Forgot about him!”------------------------------{TIFA}“Who's that?”------------------------------{BARRET}“Vice President Rufus. The President's son.”------------------------------
There are 2 big errors in the original translation.  Firstly, it makes it look as though Tifa knew it was Sep's sword when she did not make the connection, and secondly Pres Shinra states that a reactor is needed at the promised land which is completely wrong.
 
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As of today 37% of the game is completed and the whole of Midgar dialogue is completed.  Well done Luksy.  8-)

Some other areas size roughly which need doing: 

Cosmo Canyon 47KB
Costa Del Sol 36 KB
Kalm 22 KB
Remaining highwind: 35 KB
Gold Saucer 45 KB
Fort Condor 30KB
Corel 20 KB
Niblheim 46KB
Midhir 40KB
Temple of the Ancients 36KB
Junon 53 KB
Wutai 40KB


Note, Hojo's 4 monsters have been renamed to reflect dialogue.  Instead of "Sample" they are now "Specimen".  Sample is too literal for the dialogue and the dialogue takes presidence.
 
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thank you :D I wait for this very eagerly in order to start a new game!
 
Will we be able to expect this compatiable with the hardcore mod in the future?
 
1 last comparison for now.  In this scene, Tifa accuses Barrett of looking up her skirt while on the staircase of Shin-Ra Building.  The animation is a give away, sadly the original translation ruined the scene.  We have localised it so that it is more obvious and also more accurate to the actual feel of the scene.

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Shinra Bldg. Stairs------------------------------{BARRET}“Don't know… why…the hell… we gotta…climb…”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…because we don't want to starta a commotion until we've saved {AERIS}.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“If that's possible…”------------------------------{BARRET}“…heh heh heh.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Knock it off. You're giving me the creeps.”------------------------------{BARRET}“So even you will fight for someone else. Guess I figured you wrong.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Who cares what you figured!”------------------------------{BARRET}“I'm just sayin' mebbe I was wrong…”------------------------------{TIFA}“heh heh heh……”------------------------------{CLOUD}“What's that supposed to mean, {TIFA}?”------------------------------{BARRET}“…how much farther do these stairs go on?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Why don't you ask them?”------------------------------{BARRET}“It's not one of them endless  stairways or somethin', is it?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Of course not!!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Right…couldn't be that…”------------------------------{BARRET}“Are we there yet?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Not yet.”------------------------------{BARRET}“…there yet?”------------------------------{TIFA}“I said not yet!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Yo…”------------------------------{TIFA}“Look, don't even ask! We're way way way way far away from being there, OK!?”------------------------------{BARRET}“Yo… What floor is this?”------------------------------{TIFA}“…I stopped counting.”------------------------------{BARRET}“Why they gotta build these buildings so damn tall?”------------------------------{BARRET}“That Shinra… They're just no damn good.”------------------------------{TIFA}“…”------------------------------{BARRET}“…huff… Man, I'm beat…”------------------------------{BARRET}“Marlene, daddy wanted to  see your face one more time…”------------------------------{TIFA}“Would you stop acting like a  retard and climb!?”------------------------------{TIFA}“It's just a bit more!”------------------------------{TIFA}“…maybe.”------------------------------{BARRET}“Damn, man! I've had it! I'm going back!”------------------------------{TIFA}“It'll take just as long to go down as it did to come up.”------------------------------{BARRET}“…”------------------------------{TIFA}“C'mon, {BARRET}. Pull it together!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Yeah well, all I know is I'm only flesh 'n' blood… 'cept for this arm of mine.”{NEW}“Don't treat me like I'm some ex-SOLDIER or somethin'…”------------------------------{TIFA}“What about me!? I'm human too! Oh, do what you want, I'm going on!”------------------------------{TIFA}“…?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Yaah!  {BARRET}! You go first!”------------------------------{BARRET}“What're ya ignorant?  …I didn't mean that”------------------------------{TIFA}“All right, all right!”------------------------------{TIFA}“{CLOUD}, you go on ahead too!!”------------------------------Received "Elixir"!------------------------------Received "Behemoth Horn"!------------------------------
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Shin-Ra Bldg. Staircase------------------------------{BARRET}“Don't know… why…the hell… we gotta… kill ourselves…”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…because I don't want any trouble until we've saved {AERIS}.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Although,I can see that being a problem…”------------------------------{BARRET}“…heh,heh,heh.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“What is it? You're giving me the creeps.”------------------------------{BARRET}“So,there are times when even you fight for other people. Guess I got you wrong.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“I'm not interested in what you think about me.”------------------------------{BARRET}“I'm just sayin'… Sorry for… before,ya know?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Hehehe…”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Now you're at it,{TIFA}…? What gives?”------------------------------{BARRET}“…how much farther do these stairs go on for?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Who knows… why don't you ask them?”------------------------------{BARRET}“It can't keep going on like this forever,can it?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Of course it can't!!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Yeah… Okay,that was a bit silly…”------------------------------{BARRET}“Are we there yet?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Doesn't look like it.”------------------------------{BARRET}“…there yet?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Not yet!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Yo…”------------------------------{TIFA}“I said not yet! Not yet,not yet,not yet, not yet,not yet,not yet!!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Hey… What floor we on?”------------------------------{TIFA}“…I stopped counting ages ago.”------------------------------{BARRET}“W-why did they build this place s-so damn tall?”------------------------------{BARRET}“That Sh-Shin-Ra… They're just no damn good…”------------------------------{TIFA}“……”------------------------------{BARRET}“Ohhhh… Man,I'm beat…”------------------------------{BARRET}“I'm sorry,Marin. I know you were hopin' to see Daddy again someday…”------------------------------{TIFA}“Hey! Stop tempting fate!”------------------------------{TIFA}“Just a little more! Only a little more!”------------------------------{TIFA}“…Maybe.”------------------------------{BARRET}“That's it! I've had enough! I'm going back!”------------------------------{TIFA}“You're going to go back down all those stairs we just climbed?”------------------------------{BARRET}“……”------------------------------{TIFA}“C'mon,{BARRET}. Sort yourself out!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Don't matter what you s-say, I'm still only flesh 'n' blood… 'Cept for this r-right arm of mine…”{NEW}“Not like I have any s-special ex-Soldier powers…”------------------------------{TIFA}“I'm human too,you know! I'm going on ahead of you!”------------------------------{TIFA}“…?”------------------------------{TIFA}“Yaaah!! {BARRET},stop looking! I don't wanna go first now!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Y-you crazy!?  …I didn't look ANYWHERE!…”------------------------------{TIFA}“If you say so!”------------------------------{TIFA}“And you can get in front too,{CLOUD}!!”------------------------------Obtained "Elixir"!------------------------------Obtained "Behemoth Horn"!------------------------------
 
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Today I have taken a liberty with the story.  Don't like doing it at all but I see no way to get around this.  The original trans team did the same.
[03:08] <DLPB> turns out president shinra is called "President"  it is not a title
[03:09] <Covarr> lol
[03:09] <DLPB> he is called President. hahaha.  Rufus refers to himself as "head of shin-ra company" he is never referred to as a president....   The japanese seem to have made a pun on president, making  shinra called president
[03:10] <DLPB> but f*ck that
[03:10] <DLPB> no western audience would get it
kinda getting to grips with this map now. 

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Shinra Bldg. 70f.------------------------------Rufus“So… So Sephiroth was actually here. …By the way,”------------------------------Rufus“just who are you?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“I'm {CLOUD}, ex-SOLDIER, First Class!”------------------------------{BARRET}“I'm from AVALANCHE!”------------------------------{TIFA}“Me too!”------------------------------{AERIS}“A flower girl from the slums.”------------------------------{RED XIII}“A Research Specimen.”------------------------------Rufus“What a crew.”------------------------------Rufus“Well, I'm Rufus. The President of Shinra, Inc.”------------------------------{BARRET}“You're only President 'cause yer old man died!”------------------------------Rufus“Correct. I'll let you hear my  inauguration speech.”------------------------------Rufus“…Father tried to control the world with money, and that worked for him.”------------------------------Rufus“The people believed that Shinra would protect them.”------------------------------Rufus“Work at Shinra, get your pay. If terrorists attack,  the Shinra army will help you.”{NEW}“It looked perfect on the outside.”------------------------------Rufus“But, I do things differently.”{NEW}“I'll control the world with fear. It's too much to do it like my old man.”------------------------------Rufus“A little fear will control the minds of the common people. There's no reason to waste good money on them.”------------------------------{TIFA}“He likes to make speeches  just like his father.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Get {AERIS} outta the building!”------------------------------{BARRET}“What?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“I'll explain later! {BARRET}!  This is the real crisis for the Planet!”------------------------------{BARRET}“The hell's that supposed to mean?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“I'll explain later! Just take my word for now! I'll go after I take care of him!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Alright, {CLOUD}!”------------------------------Rufus“Why do you want to fight me?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“You want the Promised Land and Sephiroth.”------------------------------Rufus“That's right.”------------------------------Rufus“Did you know that Sephiroth is an Ancient?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…Whatever, I can't let either you or Sephiroth have the Promised Land!”------------------------------Rufus“I see. I guess we won't be allies.”------------------------------Access Menu with {PURPLE}[MENU]{WHITE}Remove Materia from members with {PURPLE}[SWITCH]{WHITE}End with {PURPLE}[START]{WHITE}.------------------------------
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Shin-Ra Bldg. 70F------------------------------Rufus“So… So Sephiroth is alive after all. By the way……”------------------------------Rufus“Hey,just who are you?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“{CLOUD}. Ex-Soldier,First Class.------------------------------{BARRET}“I'm from Avalanche!”------------------------------{TIFA}“Same here!”------------------------------{AERIS}“…A flower seller from the slums.”------------------------------{RED XIII}“…A research specimen.”------------------------------Rufus“What a crew.”------------------------------Rufus“Well,I'm Rufus. President of the Shin-Ra Company.”------------------------------{BARRET}“The old fool's still warm…”{NEW}“Not wastin' any time,are ya!?”------------------------------Rufus“True. I suppose I'll let you hear my inauguration speech.”------------------------------Rufus“…Father tried to control the world using the power of money, and that worked for him.”------------------------------Rufus“Shin-Ra made the people feel safe. They thought they were being protected.”------------------------------#h 4Rufus“Work at Shin-Ra,get your pay. Any trouble… any terrorists, and the Shin-Ra army is there for you. At first glace,it's a perfect setup.”------------------------------Rufus“But,I do things differently.”{NEW}“I'll control the world with fear. My father's way costs far too much money.”------------------------------#h 5Rufus“You can control the hearts of men with a little fear. Why waste good money on the mindless masses? Be under no illusions… I am not my father.”------------------------------{TIFA}“Well,you sure like making speeches the same way he did.”------------------------------{CLOUD}“Take {AERIS} and get outta the building!”------------------------------{BARRET}“What?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“I'll explain later! {BARRET}! This is a real crisis for the planet!”------------------------------{BARRET}“Hell's that supposed to mean?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“I'll talk about it later! Just trust me on this! I'll catch up with you after I take care of him!”------------------------------{BARRET}“All right,{CLOUD}!”------------------------------Rufus“Why do you want to fight me?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“You seek Sephiroth and the Promised Land.”------------------------------Rufus“That's right.”------------------------------Rufus“Hm? Did you know that Sephiroth is an Ancient?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…Makes sense. Anyway,I can't let either you OR Sephiroth have the Promised Land!”------------------------------Rufus“I see. I guess we won't be friends.”------------------------------To access the menu press {PURPLE}[MENU]{WHITE}To remove Materia from members press {PURPLE}[SWITCH]{WHITE}When you are ready press {PURPLE}[START]{WHITE}.------------------------------
PSX was even worse, there the line was "I'll let you hear my new appointment speech"
 
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[03:08] <DLPB> turns out president shinra is called "President"  it is not a title
[03:09] <Covarr> lol
[03:09] <DLPB> he is called President. hahaha.  Rufus refers to himself as "head of shin-ra company" he is never referred to as a president....   The japanese seem to have made a pun on president, making  shinra called president
[03:10] <DLPB> but f*ck that
[03:10] <DLPB> no western audience would get it
Are you going to try and preserve that there was a joke there at all? I'm not sure how you'd go about doing that, but that's absolute hilarity I'd be sad to lose completely. XD
 
There's just no way to preserve it... A western audience cannot hope to either take it seriously or even understand it.  I would also then have to change the title to "Head of the Shin-Ra company" instead of President (which is more accurate to the Japanese but kinda sounds like a poor localisation).  You couldn't have "The president, President Shinra",  It is hilarious though!   ;D
 
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Tranquilizer is spelled Tranquilliser in British (not Tranquiliser).  2 l's.  Also, "has been devised" dialogue for gaining limit break is outside the box.  Thanks Kranmer.
 
As for the "President, President" joke, one could retain the joke with something akin to "Supreme Leader, President."  But it comes at the expense of an accurate translation.
 
@PitBrat: Yeah, its an unfortunate loss, but I'd much rather accuracy than one silly little joke. XD
 
Aye...  it is sad we can't get the pun in there.  When I started this project I was rather naive about the Japanese language and thought everything would work in some way, but that simply isn't it at all.  Some things have to be sacrificed.  The problem I have with the original and with FF6 (Woolsey) is that they take too many liberties and make too many mistakes.

Enhancing the material whilst sticking to accuracy as much as is possible is preferable to doing what the hell you want.
 
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