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[FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f]
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DLPB_
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Any mirrors people make are free to be posted here and I'll add to the main post. Cheers, SC.
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kalathi
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Hi! I'm really enjoying the mod so far. Here are a few oddities I've encountered:
1) In the scene in Aeris's house when Cloud goes to sleep and the music cuts out, there are a lot of loud, glitchy sounds. The audio remained blank (even menus didn't make sounds) until I touched the save point outside her house -- then the music and everything kicked back on and all was normal.
2) In the Honeybee Inn, when picking the Group Hive, the musclebound guy in the lower right of the group gets "stuck" when they all run in. He kind of glitches in place and the game hangs since he doesn't stop moving and the scene doesn't continue -- requiring a reset. I was able to continue the game by picking the Love Nest room instead.
3) During the Shinra HQ invasion, when your party reaches the floor where Aeris is being held captive and confronts Hojo, Barrett normally runs forward to aim his weapon towards the "cage" Aeris is inside. If your party formation is Cloud -> Tifa -> Barrett, he ends up running the wrong way and gets stuck, causing the game to hang and a reset is needed. I managed to get around this by rearranging my party to Cloud -> Barrett -> Tifa, which places him in the correct position so the scene can play out normally.
Thanks for all your hard work on this
1) In the scene in Aeris's house when Cloud goes to sleep and the music cuts out, there are a lot of loud, glitchy sounds. The audio remained blank (even menus didn't make sounds) until I touched the save point outside her house -- then the music and everything kicked back on and all was normal.
2) In the Honeybee Inn, when picking the Group Hive, the musclebound guy in the lower right of the group gets "stuck" when they all run in. He kind of glitches in place and the game hangs since he doesn't stop moving and the scene doesn't continue -- requiring a reset. I was able to continue the game by picking the Love Nest room instead.
3) During the Shinra HQ invasion, when your party reaches the floor where Aeris is being held captive and confronts Hojo, Barrett normally runs forward to aim his weapon towards the "cage" Aeris is inside. If your party formation is Cloud -> Tifa -> Barrett, he ends up running the wrong way and gets stuck, causing the game to hang and a reset is needed. I managed to get around this by rearranging my party to Cloud -> Barrett -> Tifa, which places him in the correct position so the scene can play out normally.
Thanks for all your hard work on this
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bearoso
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I'm not getting any sound from FMVs. It must be properly opening the sound device, because it pops on start and stop, but doesn't play anything. Full logs don't show any errors. Shouldn't be a codec problem--I analyzed the files and they're just PCM, so no codecs are needed. This is on two different systems, Windows 10 and Linux through wine. What am I missing?
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DLPB_
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I wondered, as I walked home from work, how best to approach this. And you all know I'm likely to fail at being diplomatic, so let's not try.
Rather than dwell on the [insert insult here] who came into this thread with the most appalling feedback and ignorance I've seen for a long while, I first want to clarify a few things and also say thanks to those of you who DID provide feedback correctly and who want to help - and who appreciate the slave labour that went into getting the mod this far.
My only gripe so far is that app.log, Reunion.log, and crash.dmp [when there is a crash and this is generated] need to be uploaded whenever you have an issue - along with if it's Steam or 1998 version - graphic card info - operating system. It's no use posting "crashed" or "won't load".
1. As I said in my initial post, some major (and a lot of minor) issues were EXPECTED. Anticipated. And unavoidable - unless I delayed this another 3 months. Ironing out the major problems will be a first step; better help files and tutorials for modders and the end user will be the next. I will be working with TrueOdin, Extapathy, Maki, NFITC1, and Sega Chief in the coming weeks to perfect things even further.
2. This is a FRAMEWORK which also includes my core mods. It is not a compilation of other people's mods that I have spent ages making work in a mish-mash, vegetable soup type fashion. No professional modding solution does that. The MODDER is the one who does the donkey work for the end user. And if the end user doesn't like it, they can provide feedback to the MODDER - unless it's an issue the framework can remedy (within reason). If the end user is still not satisfied, they either learn to mod themselves to make edits to existing mods - or they don't use a mod/my framework.
I know in today's age, kids grow up expecting to stay breast fed like Robin Arryn from Game of Thrones until they're 45, but listen up: I don't belong to this self entitled, useless generation - and I despise it more than you could ever fathom. So, if you want to be self sufficient, provide constructive feedback, read the help file and main post, and act like an adult - I am here for you. If you want to throw your toys out of the pram and demand stuff... well, you really don't know me too well. And at close to 10000 posts, you really should. Nor do I care one iota that some people take offence at my approach. I get offended when people get offended. Whinging and demanding and acting like a tit isn't going to cut any mustard with me whatsoever. Either you grow up -- or you disappear on my ignore list forever. I am from the hang 'em and flog 'em, right wing political side of things, in case you're in any doubt.
3. A above - this framework is never going to do everything 7th Heaven does, and that's by design. There are no gimmicks. No "Hey, shove this model in the game with an option". That would require work from MY side. And this is a FRAMEWORK that also happens to include my mods by default.
With that said, let's dissect what we have so far:
I dunno how hard it is to do it, but my guess is it's a ball-ache.
Additionally, you want a re-translation project that... doesn't edit text?
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Thanks Sega Chief for the feedback here and in PMs. I'll address other comments later.
Rather than dwell on the [insert insult here] who came into this thread with the most appalling feedback and ignorance I've seen for a long while, I first want to clarify a few things and also say thanks to those of you who DID provide feedback correctly and who want to help - and who appreciate the slave labour that went into getting the mod this far.
My only gripe so far is that app.log, Reunion.log, and crash.dmp [when there is a crash and this is generated] need to be uploaded whenever you have an issue - along with if it's Steam or 1998 version - graphic card info - operating system. It's no use posting "crashed" or "won't load".
1. As I said in my initial post, some major (and a lot of minor) issues were EXPECTED. Anticipated. And unavoidable - unless I delayed this another 3 months. Ironing out the major problems will be a first step; better help files and tutorials for modders and the end user will be the next. I will be working with TrueOdin, Extapathy, Maki, NFITC1, and Sega Chief in the coming weeks to perfect things even further.
2. This is a FRAMEWORK which also includes my core mods. It is not a compilation of other people's mods that I have spent ages making work in a mish-mash, vegetable soup type fashion. No professional modding solution does that. The MODDER is the one who does the donkey work for the end user. And if the end user doesn't like it, they can provide feedback to the MODDER - unless it's an issue the framework can remedy (within reason). If the end user is still not satisfied, they either learn to mod themselves to make edits to existing mods - or they don't use a mod/my framework.
I know in today's age, kids grow up expecting to stay breast fed like Robin Arryn from Game of Thrones until they're 45, but listen up: I don't belong to this self entitled, useless generation - and I despise it more than you could ever fathom. So, if you want to be self sufficient, provide constructive feedback, read the help file and main post, and act like an adult - I am here for you. If you want to throw your toys out of the pram and demand stuff... well, you really don't know me too well. And at close to 10000 posts, you really should. Nor do I care one iota that some people take offence at my approach. I get offended when people get offended. Whinging and demanding and acting like a tit isn't going to cut any mustard with me whatsoever. Either you grow up -- or you disappear on my ignore list forever. I am from the hang 'em and flog 'em, right wing political side of things, in case you're in any doubt.
3. A above - this framework is never going to do everything 7th Heaven does, and that's by design. There are no gimmicks. No "Hey, shove this model in the game with an option". That would require work from MY side. And this is a FRAMEWORK that also happens to include my mods by default.
With that said, let's dissect what we have so far:
You're welcome.
And congrats to you with your interpolated 60fps updates
I dunno how hard it is to do it, but my guess is it's a ball-ache.It's always on. The only question is... are the png files present in The_Reunion\Global\Texture\World ? If you delete those, the mod is disabled.
Probably post.psx. Can disable from Reunion.log. Doesn't look bad at all if using scanlines - especially by ReShade.
I'm not sure what animal you are trying to replicate here... but it certainly isn't feedback. And after hours of bug fixing and other enhancements, I can assure you the only feelings I had towards you were violent ones.
Yeah. kalathi said it best. Not sure why they were rounded on but I applaud their balls to simply tell you it as it is. What planet are you actually on that you think "toying" with a huge framework for 15 minutes is normal? Or that you can fairly judge it on that basis? I wouldn't mind if your feedback was helpful or accurate... but it isn't.
Known issue. Guess what? I didn't code inno. Stop putting your dpi settings on stupid numbers and invest in a proper monitor.
Options.ini is as clear as it comes. Needless to say, I don't believe for one single second you read the help file or main post - or you'd know it.
You think ticking something means you don't get it? ;D
Guess why that is? It's because not everyone is playing this on a high res monitor. 640 * 480 is the normal resolution. You're complaining that you had to do what is normal? Edit the options.ini file. Is there anyone on Qhimm who thinks this is a constructive and sane piece of feedback? Please tell me, so I can add you to ignore list.
Considering it's you, I am gonna think of it as a feature and not a bug. Nevertheless, no-one else has fed this back, so the likelihood is you are clueless. Bad drivers, bad install, bad graphic card, bad memory that my mod exposes. Could be a bug. 'Course... Could be that you're out to sabotage this project, you little menace.
My give-a-shit meter remains on 0.
Any chance of us knowing your PC specs? Any evidence? Anything that can help me diagnose it? An app.log? A Reunion.log? A video? Anything? Nah.
Not on my install it isn't. And again, I am not a mind reader. What is broken? How is it broken?
Then the original game is ugly and boring. You are criticizing the ORIGINAL game.
Repeated many times. Holding Start Select or pressing Alt + F4 does the same thing. And it looks neater on the menu. You know, that thing you called Ugly.
My fault people don't read help files?
I highly doubt this.
Guess again. It works by the ID number now. Not the name. Know why? Coz that way you can add up to 255 musics or 65535 SFX by adding a number to the start of any name. Called good design. But you have found a major plus and turned it into a negative.
You were one of the ones that wanted this releasing ASAP. There was a reason I have held off... That will take time, you self-entitled POS. Do you think apps, mods, and code are whipped into existence by John De Lancie?
Again, no. The global folder allows global stuff on top of BASE stuff - and Custom folder supersedes. That's 3 layers. And, as I keep telling you, this framework is designed for self contained mods. There aren't any yet. Guess why? Coz this is a framework and modders have to... you know... make those mods.
Sleep lost tonight: 0 seconds.
Ever tried doing a re-translation project and not changing the box sixes etc? Ever tried it?
Don't know how many times people have to tell you this... names are ... optional. Exe text is external. Wallmarket and Makou and toupScript exist. You seem to think the world revolves around you. That I should suddenly cater to your every whim. What exactly are you smoking?
Additionally, you want a re-translation project that... doesn't edit text?
That's your opinion. You clearly don't like this framework, so... delete The Reunion and kindly... FUCK OFF.
lol.
Because the original game is what most people want to play - and the options.ini is called options.ini.
Yes you are. Yes you did. And yes I am better at it than you. Again, fuck off.
Your expectations don't concern me, little man.
I did just that. Only thing I agreed with you on.
Good. Don't let the BSOD smack you on the arse on your way out. No point replying here or in Discord. You're a goner. I also think you're a sock-puppet. Your post is genuinely the worst I have seen in my entire time here.
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Thanks Sega Chief for the feedback here and in PMs. I'll address other comments later.
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kenC
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Thanks DLPB for this. Having read your long response, I would gladly append an app.log for the "missing registry entry" problem on the Steam version, but App.log is blank. Reunion.log asks if the version of Final Fantasy VII is legitimate, which it is.
Is there anything else I can pass your way? I am on Windows 10 version 1909, latest NVIDIA drivers.
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Is there anything else I can pass your way? I am on Windows 10 version 1909, latest NVIDIA drivers.
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TheGamingGenius
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Good lord. What an arrogant, egotistical crybaby.
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DLPB_
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that's so weird. Do you happen to have access to discord? May need to do a webcam look at it?
https://www.ff7catalog.com/threads/12253/
https://www.ff7catalog.com/threads/12253/
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Mabinog
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Just so I'm clear: If I get this launcher when I launch the game from Steam, does this mean I have the Square-Enix version of the game?
https://imgur.com/oQtNoSS
If so, I'll have to use the game converter. It says Steam v.109 when I go into the settings too.
https://imgur.com/oQtNoSS
If so, I'll have to use the game converter. It says Steam v.109 when I go into the settings too.
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kenC
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I can get on discord, for sure. I am happy to help, it will just need to be in the morning. Thank you for any future help.
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ZombieBisque
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Made an account because I wanted to say congratulations on releasing R06! I've been following your progress for awhile and the hard work and dedication you've put into this project are both admirable and inspirational. FF7 was my favorite RPG as a kid, and I've always wanted to see it done justice both in terms of the translation and the gameplay, so I can't wait to really start digging into The Reunion.
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kenC
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The launcher is standard on the Steam version, I am sure. I don't think you need to convert.
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Sega Chief
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Update on the registry issue.
It's been discovered that the Steam registry check may be off as it can differ between machines. The 1998 registry check though is working; that means users who have used Game Converter for 7h (or who use an original 1998 install) are able to use R06 (even with Steam version) whereas 'pure' steam users can't.
So as a workaround for now, if you run Game Converter and target the Steam FF7 files this'll produce the 1998 regkeys needed to pass the functioning part of R06's registry check. After that, you can run R06 either through ff7.exe or ff7_en.exe (steam).
It's been discovered that the Steam registry check may be off as it can differ between machines. The 1998 registry check though is working; that means users who have used Game Converter for 7h (or who use an original 1998 install) are able to use R06 (even with Steam version) whereas 'pure' steam users can't.
So as a workaround for now, if you run Game Converter and target the Steam FF7 files this'll produce the 1998 regkeys needed to pass the functioning part of R06's registry check. After that, you can run R06 either through ff7.exe or ff7_en.exe (steam).
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Wiseman
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My Reunion.log says "Warning: No valid registry entry was found. Are you sure Final Fantasy VII is installed properly and that this is a legitimate copy?" The other people reporting such are also using the Steam version. That's all it says. I wanted to report properly since I'm sure whether my last comment was understood.
Also, the Help.rtf refers to a document called Additional.rtf, which is nowhere to be found.
Which version of the converter are you using? The one for 7th Heaven?
Also, the Help.rtf refers to a document called Additional.rtf, which is nowhere to be found.
I will give that a shot, Sega Chief.
Which version of the converter are you using? The one for 7th Heaven?
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Mabinog
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This is true. I just ran the converter and now R06 works when I launch via Steam.
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Ashpey
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Using the game converter always ended with a crash to desktop at any battle you encounter for me. Steam version runs, but many SFXs aren't working (the alarm sound before the first boss, the jumps on ladders, the actual sound of the bomb being rigged just before the first boss...) All theses could be on my end, I'm still trying things.
Any hints to make other mods work with this? I managed to run Satsuki's upscaled fields but nothing else seems to register.
The 60Fps battles are great, by the way ^^
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Wiseman
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Which version of game converter are you people using? Seems like there is one specific to 7th Heaven.
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Ashpey
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The one linked in The Reunion - Help.rtf, https://www.ff7catalog.com/threads/9466/
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DLPB_
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ah that's not needed anymore either.
Bottom line is steam issue needs fixing.
Bottom line is steam issue needs fixing.
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DLPB_
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There is a known issue with a pure Steam install for Win 10. This is caused by Microsoft being dumb and will be looked at tomorrow.
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