[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.999992)

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Typo. Type B. In the elevator from Corel Prison to Gold Saucer, Esther: "But most of Chocobos I have are quite mellow, so you won't won't have that problem here!"
 
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Wheres the 1/35 soldier in Da chao? ive checked the entire mountain but i cant seem to find it. I havent checked the cave since i dont have the leviathan scales yet, is it there? playing with tifa right now in between finding cloud/getting the highwind
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Seems misplaced as well, was intended to be the very top screen. Will check all of them now to be sure.

Typo. Type B. In the elevator from Corel Prison to Gold Saucer, Esther: "But most of Chocobos I have are quite mellow, so you won't won't have that problem here!"
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I try to balance lines where possible, must have been juggling 'won't' between lines at the time.

Hi, Sega Chief,
Thank you for quick reply,
Could you check the following save file?

https://mega.nz/file/XqJVgaYa#20a45Exvg91Wj0EhlhFuZHl_dEMI4UxS2fkF6qgQs8g
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Thanks for that, I was able to set up a state where visiting the Pagoda on Disc 3 sets it up to be finished even if it wasn't done on Disc 2/3. I think that after finishing it, if the player didn't get Leviathan, going back up and talking to Godo should get you that as well.

Patch will go up tonight.
 
About the nibelheim flashback in the shinra mansion

It was pretty good. After it ended however, they give the option to rename cloud. I thought it was a detail like "oh wow now cloud finally accepted himself and names himself cloud and all" like symbolic, but then it gives me the option to rename cait sith and i was like...what? i guess this is a bug.
 
About the nibelheim flashback in the shinra mansion

It was pretty good. After it ended however, they give the option to rename cloud. I thought it was a detail like "oh wow now cloud finally accepted himself and names himself cloud and all" like symbolic, but then it gives me the option to rename cait sith and i was like...what? i guess this is a bug.
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It's not a bug, the issue is that when Cloud is renamed it also renames 'Young Cloud' (who is Cait Sith at that point) so I was forced to add a seemingly out of nowhere rename screen for him as well.

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Patches are up, you'll notice that version has went from 2.0.11 to 2.0.91; this is because 7h uses decimal for version tracking where I was using semantic versioning. When we hit 2.099, it'll go to 2.0991 and so on until a content update is made which pushes it to 2.1, then I'll be able to follow a decimal system properly from the get-go.


v2.0.91
*) 7h IRO: Added chunks that handle the triggers for gateways etc. allowing access to Save Point in Icicle Inn.
*) Da Chao: 1/35 Soldier was misplaced.
*) Wutai Pagoda: Issue where Disc 3 Pagoda couldn't be completed if not finished on Disc 1/2.
*) 3 typos with Ester's lines when explaining Chocobo controls.
 
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Thanks Sega. New Patched solved the black screen problem.

Have another Question: is it the intention to fight 2 satan gates in the temple of the ancients in type b? Because I can't win this fight with an lvl 25-28 group without Tifa :D
Because I didn't had any problems before, but I don't have a chance against them because they practically put me down with one or two hits.
 
Thanks Sega. New Patched solved the black screen problem.

Have another Question: is it the intention to fight 2 satan gates in the temple of the ancients in type b? Because I can't win this fight with an lvl 25-28 group without Tifa :D
Because I didn't had any problems before, but I don't have a chance against them because they practically put me down with one or two hits.
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I did a run of it there; while I cleared the fight, I could see that the single-target Shockwave seemed to be proccing the Barrier instead of MBarrier so I wonder if it's been mis-set as a physical attack. Deaf-eye seemed to come out a bit too frequently as well, I burned my modest stock of Echo Drops. I'll make some tweaks (also the camera and positioning still needs work; claustrophobic would be a nice theme for it, but it was a bit too cramped).

Best thing to do is prioritise Barrier, preferably with a Light Curtain in case of a Deaf-Eye hitting the character carrying Barrier Materia, then working down one side with Quake2, Deathblow (Earth/Holy/Water/Hidden + Elemental in a weapon preferably). When it gets antsy, keep everyone nice and healthy for the Rush attack; it can't kill, but it will reduce HP by half which can leave them vulnerable to being picked off by the other wall. Just be warned that its last Rush at 1/4HP is a magic attack instead of a physical attack, and doesn't deal %-damage.

You can try giving Aeris the Fury status from a Hyper so you have a fast supply of support Limit Breaks like Healing Wind, Breath of the Earth, etc. The latter would be handy for cleansing Silence/Blind all in one go.

One important thing is that their physical attacks, Shockwave and Blasting Zone, are both Earth-element so an Edincoat, Earth+Elemental in Armour (though this means it can't be used in a weapon but may be better to go with defence over offence to get through the first half more smoothly), or accessories that reduce Earth damage would be really good picks here. It doesn't stack though, so each character having one Earth-resist on them somewhere should suffice; caster/support should prob get Edincoat so they can use an accessory that blocks Silence for a bit less headaches (or use Added Effect + Seal in armour).
 
I'm curious - is it still true what the installer says that there's a boss no one's found in 5 years?
 
Hi Sega Chief,
Thank you for your quick work!
It worked well on the latest ver I just destroyed Godo! (Though I missed Leviathan :)
 
Late congratulations on the release from me too Chief!

Had some time to try out game type B on hard mode last night. I was going to try how my 1.5 arrange speedrun route works, but right from the start I realized how different this 2.0 B version is. When things started playing out a bit different it put a HUGE smile on my face! So I ended up just exploring everything and talking to every NPC again. Amazing! Thank you sooo much for all your work over the years!

Just one question from the early game;


After Cloud leaves 7th Heaven and we got a chance to explore, I went back to the bar too soon, which continued the story progression. So did I miss anything by not checking out the train station and graveyard with just Cloud?
 
Hey Sega

Thanks for the latest release.


I get absolutely destroyed by the 2 Demons Gates.. was really enjoying the mod but this is too tough and I can't progress - I see you are doing some work on this so it might be grinding until its sorted
 
played only Type A so far and I love it, here are couple suggestions/bugs/misc notes I have noted:

- MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL - missable items documentation is needed, its really annoying when you realise you missed something after playing so many hours. That would include enemy skills mobs locations, all enemy morphs, all item steals, so in general all missable items/accesories/weapons/armors/key items/materias. I guess you can just upgrade NT documentation you already have.
-morphed Eligor into Silver Glasses (doc says staff).
-when an ally has Reno cage casted on him/her and Barret uses Gatling gun normal attack he hits Reno and the caged character/s but cage its not always cancelled after this.
- there is a Potion on the long stairs in Shinra Bld. Isn't that useless at this point? maybe change it to hi-potion? Unless trolling ;)
- carbon bangle can be stolen from Moth Slasher enemy in shinra bld floor 67
- hardedge can be stolen from SOLDIER 3rd in shinra bld floor 67/68 after boss battle
- Ziegfried morph gives you nothing not sure if intended
- there is hidden All lv3 materia in the top north building in corel prison (not sure if you want to list that one in docs or keep secret ;))
- not sure if this is mod bug or vanilla but when Midgar Zoolom hit you with Beta and you learn it then the same fight he knocks you out of the battle field - enemy skill is not learned after winning the battle.
- Big Guard is casting reflect on your team - this may be abused by casters, if you cast a Spell+All on your team the enemy will be hit 3x times becasue of Reflect :) On the other hand you cant heal yourself so lets say its a draw.
- when you and enemy have Reflect enabled the spell is being bounced 4/5x times between both sides.
- how to track how many 1/35 soldiers I already collected?
- The chair in Shinra Mansion, 1st floor on the right next to the entrance to the basement is reacing on OK button with a squeeky sound but no dialog.
- no dialog boxes when Sephirot talking to Tseng in the Temple
- Demon Gate boss drops a Stone on you that deals 7k dmg, isn't that too much?
- some monsters are vulnerable to ? ? ? ? what is that an enemy skill with the same name or type of dmg?
- there are no encounters at all in the woods around bone village (world map) and woods around north crater (you can get ther with gold chocobo)
- Icicle Inn there is a save point outside of the doors on the snow but you cannot reach it (its the screen within the Inn)
- when manipulating assault squad soldier (corel reactor entrance before hijacking the train) there is an empty middle attack that you cannot choose
- Umbrella can be bought in Junon Docs disc 2
- Mug animation on Barret uses gun sound even if you have melee weapon on him


keep up the great work
 
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Or instead of making the 60 flight run a hi potion or potion,  why not make it something useful at that point :D.
 
I did a run of it there; while I cleared the fight, I could see that the single-target Shockwave seemed to be proccing the Barrier instead of MBarrier so I wonder if it's been mis-set as a physical attack. Deaf-eye seemed to come out a bit too frequently as well, I burned my modest stock of Echo Drops. I'll make some tweaks (also the camera and positioning still needs work; claustrophobic would be a nice theme for it, but it was a bit too cramped).

Best thing to do is prioritise Barrier, preferably with a Light Curtain in case of a Deaf-Eye hitting the character carrying Barrier Materia, then working down one side with Quake2, Deathblow (Earth/Holy/Water/Hidden + Elemental in a weapon preferably). When it gets antsy, keep everyone nice and healthy for the Rush attack; it can't kill, but it will reduce HP by half which can leave them vulnerable to being picked off by the other wall. Just be warned that its last Rush at 1/4HP is a magic attack instead of a physical attack, and doesn't deal %-damage.

You can try giving Aeris the Fury status from a Hyper so you have a fast supply of support Limit Breaks like Healing Wind, Breath of the Earth, etc. The latter would be handy for cleansing Silence/Blind all in one go.

One important thing is that their physical attacks, Shockwave and Blasting Zone, are both Earth-element so an Edincoat, Earth+Elemental in Armour (though this means it can't be used in a weapon but may be better to go with defence over offence to get through the first half more smoothly), or accessories that reduce Earth damage would be really good picks here. It doesn't stack though, so each character having one Earth-resist on them somewhere should suffice; caster/support should prob get Edincoat so they can use an accessory that blocks Silence for a bit less headaches (or use Added Effect + Seal in armour).
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The Earth Resist Tip was helpful! With that, the battle was much easier. Thanks for that! :)
So Aeris is no longer playable with CD2? That is a pity, because I would have liked to take her with me. There was no information about it or I would have chosen type A. :/
 
I'm curious - is it still true what the installer says that there's a boss no one's found in 5 years?
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Does it still say that? I'll need to change it.

Hi Sega Chief,
Thank you for your quick work!
It worked well on the latest ver I just destroyed Godo! (Though I missed Leviathan :)
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If you head back up and talk to Godo, I think he'll give you it if I'm reading the field script correctly. If not, I'll make an alteration.

Late congratulations on the release from me too Chief!

Had some time to try out game type B on hard mode last night. I was going to try how my 1.5 arrange speedrun route works, but right from the start I realized how different this 2.0 B version is. When things started playing out a bit different it put a HUGE smile on my face! So I ended up just exploring everything and talking to every NPC again. Amazing! Thank you sooo much for all your work over the years!

Just one question from the early game;


After Cloud leaves 7th Heaven and we got a chance to explore, I went back to the bar too soon, which continued the story progression. So did I miss anything by not checking out the train station and graveyard with just Cloud?
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I think there's a minor scene that plays when you try to head to the station where Johnny and co. come out and berate you for trying to leave. You can then continue on to the train station but I don't think there's anything more. Maybe in the future I'll extend it so you pull a Suikoden II and can actually leave Midgar altogether.

Or instead of making the 60 flight run a hi potion or potion,  why not make it something useful at that point :D.   
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All right, how about a Grenade?

The Earth Resist Tip was helpful! With that, the battle was much easier. Thanks for that! :)
So Aeris is no longer playable with CD2? That is a pity, because I would have liked to take her with me. There was no information about it or I would have chosen type A. :/
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What happens there isn't specific to Type A or Type B:

After the boss uses Unlife2, she needs to survive the battle; avoid using multi-target attacks or random-target ones (like Tifa's Limits). There's a debug toggle on the Highwind with a NPC near the Operations Room as well.
 
I apologize if this has been asked @Sega Chief, but I was curious.

Did I read type A is FF7 with difficulty adjustments and some additions / movement of items etc etc

And Type B is normal OG NT FF7 with all the strange boss models etc etc?

Highly interested in Type A if I read everything correctly.
 
I apologize if this has been asked @Sega Chief, but I was curious.

Did I read type A is FF7 with difficulty adjustments and some additions / movement of items etc etc

And Type B is normal OG NT FF7 with all the strange boss models etc etc?

Highly interested in Type A if I read everything correctly.
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They both have the same adjustments to enemies, item placements, etc. The palette swapped bosses from NT 1.5 aren't used, Type B bosses tend to be altogether different (though some aren't changed from Type A, like Bottomswell); in Type A you'd fight Air Buster, in Type B you fight something else.
 
ah OK.

I noticed while skimming over the thread, what is the easiest way to download it?
Wanna make sure I download the most up to date version, saw a few updates and what not.

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Worded that bad, how do I install Game Type A?
I'm using the Regular Installer at the top of the thread.

I'm an idiot, sorry, the ease of use of this mod is incredible, should have just used my brain.
 
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To get the master magic, do i have to master every splinter magic too? or just the main ones
 
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