[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.999992)

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Just below that you will see a list like this, this one however I already added the differences as to give u hand bro:

Yoshiyuki: SOLDIER M-Class, Drop (Junon, Alarm Junction)

Heaven's Cloud: Iron Man [Drop/Morph]

Ragnarok: Iron Man [Steal]
---Zenogias feather instead of Yoshiyuki (DROP ULTIMA WEAPON)


Pile Banger: Armored Golem [Drop/Morph]

Max Ray: Armored Golem [Steal]
+++++   X- atm core(DROP}


Powersoul: Materia Keeper [Drop], Mt. Nibel

Master Fist: Ho-Chu [Drop], Ancient Forest

God's Hand: Mover [Morph]
------God Hand, Crystal glove (hard attacker Steal), Micro Engine


Behemoth Horn: King Behemoth [Drop/Morph]

Spring Gun Clip: King Behemoth [Steal]
++++Red Crystal (dont know probablyy obtained at the same time as limit)


Fairy Tale: Jenova DEATH [drop] & Junon Shop (Disc 2)

Wizard Staff: Pollensalta, Drop
+++ Gospel Spark


Grow Lance: Crater Dragon [Drop/Morph]

Spirit Lance: Crater Dragon, Steal

Flayer: Gold Saucer, Speed Square (Disc 2/3)
-----Luvluv G instead of flayer


Oritsuru: Christopher [Drop]

Magic Shuriken: Christopher [Steal]
+++7777 needles


Platinum M-Phone: Mover [Drop]

Starlight Phone: Master Tonberry [Drop]
-----Crystal phone(STEAL senior grunt )  ,Starlight phone and dark matter


Sniper CR: Malboro [Drop]

Outsider: Junon Leagues Tier III Prize & Malboro [Morph]
++++Pulse Ammo


the === mean there is something different
the +++ means that was added but isnt in the list
 
Had to take note of what the weapon seller asks me for, and yes its from the WHERE IS THE THING document which is in both The september and  january patches
 
Had to take note of what the weapon seller asks me for, and yes its from the WHERE IS THE THING document which is in both The september and  january patches
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I think you've misunderstood the document, the weapons listed there aren't stated as being for crafting ultimate weapons. It's a listing of where all the end-game weapons and equipment can be acquired from (Yoshiyuki was listed as an exception because people were missing it).

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I added headings and shuffled the entry about where to get Ult weapons above Triple AP weapons to avoid confusion in future:
https://pastebin.com/X1jC1BHv
 
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Hey!! so i´ve been playing the NT 1.5 (The most recent version for 7th heaven) and for the most part the game seems balanced. I just don´t get how SP works, like i have been using RED XIII for basically the entire game(i just reached rocket town, disk 1) and he is only level 2, same as tifa who i didnt use too much, other characters like aerith and barret are around the same level 1-2(Cloud is 2 as well i think, maybe 3 i cant remember, sorry.), well vincent joined and he is already level 3, i thought the more i used the character the more sp i got, but it doesnt seems thats the case... Anyway it seems like there is a rather balance problem in terms of "Leveling up the characters"
 
Hey!! so i´ve been playing the NT 1.5 (The most recent version for 7th heaven) and for the most part the game seems balanced. I just don´t get how SP works, like i have been using RED XIII for basically the entire game(i just reached rocket town, disk 1) and he is only level 2, same as tifa who i didnt use too much, other characters like aerith and barret are around the same level 1-2(Cloud is 2 as well i think, maybe 3 i cant remember, sorry.), well vincent joined and he is already level 3, i thought the more i used the character the more sp i got, but it doesnt seems thats the case... Anyway it seems like there is a rather balance problem in terms of "Leveling up the characters"
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SP is fed into a single variable when a fight ends, and when the player visits a save point this value is copied and added onto the current active party's SP; inactive party members get 50% of this value instead. So differences in characters for rank will depend on how many battles are being fought. Characters who join later in the game start with some ranks unlocked already so that they aren't behind.

The system isn't very transparent and has some limitations, such as the upper limit of stored SP being 255 (for the 'processing' SP variable and for each character's individual SP variable). I'll probably drop it from 2.0 and lock it behind specific points in the story/bosses instead but that'll be difficult to implement for 1.5 because it'll clash with current saves.

What I'll do for 1.5 is set it as a single currency for all characters that can be spent on anyone with successive ranks costing more. That way players can choose to ignore a character or two and invest it in the ones they intend to use.

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I'm looking at 7H to see how .exe changes are implemented with it; when that's done, and assuming no issues have arisen with the executable changes, I'll release the new installer + 7H IRO to replace the old non-exe ones.
 
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I'm looking at 7H to see how .exe changes are implemented with it; when that's done, and assuming no issues have arisen with the executable changes, I'll release the new installer + 7H IRO to replace the old non-exe ones.
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Could you look into converting the exe changes to a hex file using DLPB tools. I have done so with MO and Becuase exes, so the next update to 7H no longer needs separate exe file paths to be assigned in Workshop -> Settings -> FF7 Exe
 
Could you look into converting the exe changes to a hex file using DLPB tools. I have done so with MO and Becuase exes, so the next update to 7H no longer needs separate exe file paths to be assigned in Workshop -> Settings -> FF7 Exe
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Yeah I'm using hextedit for .exe changes at the moment. I was hoping something similar to hextlaunch would be in 7H but looks like you're adding it which is handy. I'll send the hext document over tonight but I need to sort out an issue with the flevel.

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I need to sort the flevel out, some of the fixes are in a separate flevel. I must've made a copy at some point to test the sources and forgot to consolidate it all together (costa del sol save point move isn't in current upload, might be other things as well).
 
Fixed up the flevel and put it all back together:

Standard Installer: http://www.mediafire.com/file/09xcriiiidvjrhy/NT_1.5_Build_-_27th_January_2018.zip

7H IRO: http://www.mediafire.com/file/s0dc38klh8u1g4h/FF7_NT_IRO_27th_January_2018.zip

I'll change the front-page files in a day or two assuming no other issues have been spotted. If you want to blend the executable changes with another .exe then I recommend grabbing DLPB's Hext-Tools and using the HextEdit tool to apply the code changes: http://www.mediafire.com/file/lw7llln9r0cr3zm/FF7 EXE 1.5 HextEdit.txt
 
Quick posting a few minor bugs:

- Cloud's innate procs at every Limit, resulting in him getting stacks when others use their Limits (dunno if its intended, but seems broken to me)

- Barret's innate doesnt seem to proc on certain enemies melee attacks (for example: claw attack of the green sea horse enemies at the second reactor, forgot the name :-\)

- Field music playing when entering a battle at the bridge before the screen with Cloud's flashback (Tifa at Mt. Nibel reactor) at second reactor (where the save point stands)

- Plasmabuster (2nd bombing mission) facing wrong direction after turning/counter, resulting in getting "backstab" damage up front

- Aeris innate tutorial text first says it WILL absorb poison then say it doesnt cover poison

Thats it! If i encounter more bugs i will post them here ;)
 
Quick posting a few minor bugs:

- Cloud's innate procs at every Limit, resulting in him getting stacks when others use their Limits (dunno if its intended, but seems broken to me)

- Barret's innate doesnt seem to proc on certain enemies melee attacks (for example: claw attack of the green sea horse enemies at the second reactor, forgot the name :-\)

- Field music playing when entering a battle at the bridge before the screen with Cloud's flashback (Tifa at Mt. Nibel reactor) at second reactor (where the save point stands)

- Plasmabuster (2nd bombing mission) facing wrong direction after turning/counter, resulting in getting "backstab" damage up front

- Aeris innate tutorial text first says it WILL absorb poison then say it doesnt cover poison

Thats it! If i encounter more bugs i will post them here ;)
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It was intended to be any Limit but it seems a bit much as-is.

I think that rolling claw has a %-based damage formula, maybe it's been set to magical by accident.

Mt. Nibel's music is like spaghetti junction at the moment; I'll have another look at it but I'll prob end up making it broken for later scenes.

Air Buster has always had the facing problem; his AI and his animations both conflict and end up having him face the wrong way visually. The only way to keep track is to see who he attacked last and assume he's facing that direction (even if he's not physically facing it). I've an idea to sort it out though but it'll involve an AI rewrite.

I must have missed that on Aeris' text. Thanks for letting me know.
 
I could imagine that Cloud's innate just seems broken in the beginning of the game, since you use a lot of Lv.1 Limit's... Later on it will become more harder to get those 3 stacks with Lv3-4 Limit's (considering you will make use of the "Sad" status to get those extra def for tougher fights)... So dont get me wrong: I like the change of Cloud's innate to something stackable rather then some flat bonus that will perish in longer fights, its more relateable and useful in the end ;)
 
Hey Sega Chief,
thanks again for your hard work. This mod is amazing.

I found an Issue:
Chole´s Chocobo Inspection seems broken. The Chocobo she mentions as fastest runner/sprinter has the lowest Top speed on the Chocobo Square ( about 52km/h)

Maybe you could check this.

Best regards
 
Hey Sega Chief,
thanks again for your hard work. This mod is amazing.

I found an Issue:
Chole´s Chocobo Inspection seems broken. The Chocobo she mentions as fastest runner/sprinter has the lowest Top speed on the Chocobo Square ( about 52km/h)

Maybe you could check this.

Best regards
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I think sprint is a separate stat from top speed, but I'm not too familiar with the mechanics of it.
 
Ok, so you didn't change anything about it? It seems that she takes the slowest one as the fastest.

But that's no serious issue.
 
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So...  first time posting here.  Been a long time since I fully played through FF7 and I recently had the urge, and I decided to use every mod improvement I could find.  I just wanted to ask a question or two and leave a couple of comments.

-Great mod btw, really has renewed my interest in this old game.

-I played about halfway through the game with new threat 1.4 before discovering new threat 1.5 and decided to start over.  I just finished the boat sequence after Junon with 1.5 then discovered the new beta version of 1.5 available here for the last couple of days.  I'm particularly interested in trying it to see the new stat balancing for materia.  I felt that most materia had harsher downsides than upsides, and were particularly painful to use early game before stats from SP ranks canceled out the downsides (hard to convince myself to wear materia to level it up if it means I'll be running around with 0 dex/vitality).

-On that note, using the seventh heaven manager, can I replace the old 1.5 version with the new 1.5 version in my load order without having any problems with my save or would I need to start the game over again?

-Does this sound right?  (This bit seems to have worked properly)
     -Backup and replace my ff7.exe,
     -set the manager to use the new .exe
     -disable "The reunion menu overhaul" since it also uses it's own exe, which I was previously using. 
     -replace old version of 1.5 with the new version in my load order

-Stat balancing seems inconsistent.  Compare pugilist to shinra turk for example.

-Does luck effect spells?  Options with luck and magic don't seem like they'd be to good.

-The only elemental attribute I haven't figured out is hidden, is that attached to something late game?

-In 1.4 I almost got progression blocked on the boat after Junon because I only had 2 ether, the boss drains mana, and you can't really grind since the merchant doesn't sell tents.  I'll admit though I hadn't yet realized how good osmosis was at that point.  Seemed like he was nerfed for 1.5, or at least the adds didn't spawn, still might not be a bad idea to slightly expand the merchant inventory though.

EDIT:  Osmosis effect seems to be capped at 40mp now.
 
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So...  first time posting here.  Been a long time since I fully played through FF7 and I recently had the urge, and I decided to use every mod improvement I could find.  I just wanted to ask a question or two and leave a couple of comments.

-Great mod btw, really has renewed my interest in this old game.

-I played about halfway through the game with new threat 1.4 before discovering new threat 1.5 and decided to start over.  I just finished the boat sequence after Junon with 1.5 then discovered the new beta version of 1.5 available here for the last couple of days.  I'm particularly interested in trying it to see the new stat balancing for materia.  I felt that most materia had harsher downsides than upsides, and were particularly painful to use early game before stats from SP ranks canceled out the downsides (hard to convince myself to wear materia to level it up if it means I'll be running around with 0 dex/vitality).

-On that note, using the seventh heaven manager, can I replace the old 1.5 version with the new 1.5 version in my load order without having any problems with my save or would I need to start the game over again?

-Does this sound right?  (This bit seems to have worked properly)
     -Backup and replace my ff7.exe,
     -set the manager to use the new .exe
     -disable "The reunion menu overhaul" since it also uses it's own exe, which I was previously using. 
     -replace old version of 1.5 with the new version in my load order

-Stat balancing seems inconsistent.  Compare pugilist to shinra turk for example.

-Does luck effect spells?  Options with luck and magic don't seem like they'd be to good.

-The only elemental attribute I haven't figured out is hidden, is that attached to something late game?

-In 1.4 I almost got progression blocked on the boat after Junon because I only had 2 ether, the boss drains mana, and you can't really grind since the merchant doesn't sell tents.  I'll admit though I hadn't yet realized how good osmosis was at that point.  Seemed like he was nerfed for 1.5, or at least the adds didn't spawn, still might not be a bad idea to slightly expand the merchant inventory though.

EDIT:  Osmosis effect seems to be capped at 40mp now.
     
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You're right about the rank-ups, looks like it's the old ones pre-patch. I had a mix-up with the flevel before and used one that didn't have the costa save fix, but didn't realise it was so far back. I'll need to sort those and get them back to the updated ones ASAP s;

The new IRO should work, so long as you set it to run with the modified .exe (I don't think there's any major problems if you don't, just that some of the Materia equip effects, limit descriptions, and item text will seem inconsistent if a default exe is used).

Hidden is used as an opposite to Holy of sorts, with anything relating to Jenova or monsters absorbing it and enemies like the Temple of the Ancients + Weapon enemies being weak to it. You can get it onto weapons/armour using Elemental + any magic materia with no listed element (like status magic).

I'll change the cargo ship inventory to use a more expansive one.

Luck does not affect spells unfortunately; Luck on a pure caster

Edit: Yeah, I've used the old rank-ups instead of the new ones; sorry everyone.
 
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Sorry about the mix-up, I fixed the flevel with the new intended rank up options

Installer: http://www.mediafire.com/file/b6356lofjn6ubbo/NT_1.5_Build_-_2nd_February_2018.zip

IRO: http://www.mediafire.com/file/wljrp2ptvjzot8l/FF7 NT IRO 2nd February 2018.zip

For save files that have used the old ranks, the new ones will go right on top with no issues but if you want to correct stats then I recommend using the Black Chocobo save editor to reset sources spent on each character then 'restoring' them based on the new rank options:


Cloud
{CHOICE}Ex-SOLDIER: +10 STR{, }+5 MAG/SPR
{CHOICE}Mercenary: +10 STR{, }+5 VIT/LCK
{CHOICE}Makonoid: +10 MAG{, }+5 SPR/DEX
{CHOICE}Shinra Trooper: +10 STR{, }+5 DEX/LCK

Barret
{CHOICE}Marauder: +10 STR{, }+5 VIT/SPR
{CHOICE}Vigilante: +10 STR{, }+5 DEX/LCK
{CHOICE}Heavy Metal: +10 VIT{, }+5 STR/MAG
{CHOICE}Techno-Freak: +10 MAG/SPR

Tifa
{CHOICE}Monk: +10 STR{, }+5 SPR/DEX
{CHOICE}Pugilist: +10 STR{, }+5 VIT/SPR
{CHOICE}Brawler: +10 STR/LCK
{CHOICE}Oracle: +10 MAG/SPR

Aeris
{CHOICE}Flowergirl: +10 MAG{, }+5 DEX/LCK
{CHOICE}White Mage: +10 MAG/SPR
{CHOICE}Geomancer: +10 VIT{, }+5 MAG/SPR
{CHOICE}Slum Drunk: +10 STR/VIT/LCK

Red XIII
{CHOICE}Cosmo Warrior: +10 STR{, }+5 MAG/DEX
{CHOICE}Guard Hound: +10 STR{, }+5 VIT/SPR
{CHOICE}Red Mage: +10 MAG{, }+5 STR/LCK
{CHOICE}Sample #13: +10 MAG/VIT

Yuffie
{CHOICE}Materia Hunter: +10 DEX{, }+5 STR/MAG
{CHOICE}Gil Bandit: +10 LCK{, }+5 STR/DEX
{CHOICE}Wutai Shinobi: +10 MAG{, }+5 STR/SPR
{CHOICE}Goddamn Punk: +10 STR/VIT

Cait Sith
{CHOICE}Fortune-Teller: +10 LCK{, }+5 STR/SPR
{CHOICE}Yeti Pal: +15 STR{, }+5 VIT
{CHOICE}Materia Tank: +10 MAG{, }+5 SPR/LCK
{CHOICE}Top Cat: +10 DEX{, }+5 STR/LCK

Vincent
{CHOICE}Horror Agent: +10 MAG{, }+5 STR/VIT
{CHOICE}Beastmaster: +10 STR{, }+5 MAG/LCK
{CHOICE}Berserker: +10 STR/SPR
{CHOICE}Shinra Turk: +5 STR/MAG/VIT/DEX

Cid
{CHOICE}Shinra Ace: +10 LCK{, }+5 STR/VIT
{CHOICE}Engineer: +5 STR/VIT/SPR
{CHOICE}Wingman: +10 MAG{, }+5 VIT/LCK
{CHOICE}Dragoon: +15 DEX{, }+10 STR
 
hello, first time posting here. I was wondering if the 1.5 iro version is still incompatible with menù overhaul, cause there was a bug in my set up that made the dialogue boxes really small and the text didn't fit in, and MO fixed that problem.
 
hello, first time posting here. I was wondering if the 1.5 iro version is still incompatible with menù overhaul, cause there was a bug in my set up that made the dialogue boxes really small and the text didn't fit in, and MO fixed that problem.
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I think it depends what .EXE you use with both mods together, I'm not 100% sure.
 
It's been a while but I've finally gotten back to this.

So I just picked up the Relic Ring and I just want to be clear on it's attributes (I can't find anything in the files that came with the mod).

Looks like it prevents regen and manipulation, while granting auto-Barrier/M-Barrier. That's all I can tell. Is there anything else I'm missing?

Thanks!
 
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