[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.999992)

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hello, I have a problem with this mods, I have the same materia bonuses and penalties of the basic game.

the rest of the mod seems to work normally, the new boss fight is there, the innate ability work, ect.

for info I have the French version of the game so I did the manipulation that ask to rename files before installing the mod.
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The french version may be running off a different .exe which has caused the .exe part of the patch to fail. I have a french FF7 Steam exe I can try and patch (think I have the offsets for it) when I get back from work but let me know if you're on Steam, 7h, etc. as they use different exes.

Currently on my 2nd run of this AMAZING mod, but I've just watch a scene that, again, made me wonder... I'm talking about the Red XIII, Aeris experiment, did you change the translation to make it more "child friendly"? Cause if I remember correctly, Hojo was trying to breed them together, not to strength Aeris by combat (or maybe the english and spanish translations were wrong all this time). If you changed it on porpouse, are there any more scenes were you did something similar? I'm not talking about typos and/or better translations, I only care about censorship.

Thx in advance for your reply Sega Chief!
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It wasn't changed for censorship, I just thought it was dumb. I checked in with the japanese translation but from what I remember it was the same there.
 
Thank you for creating this mod, I just downloaded it and I'm looking forward to enjoying this!

My only question is if there is a list of the new sidequests? I just wanna make sure I don't miss them in my playthrough.. or maybe they are very obvious? And in line with that question, if there are any missables etc.?

Also, I was under the impression this mod is not compatible with Reunion. Do they work together or have I understood this correctly?
 
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Thank you for creating this mod, I just downloaded it and I'm looking forward to enjoying this!

My only question is if there is a list of the new sidequests? I just wanna make sure I don't miss them in my playthrough.. or maybe they are very obvious? And in line with that question, if there are any missables etc.?

Also, I was under the impression this mod is not compatible with Reunion. Do they work together or have I understood this correctly?
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The new stuff is Disc 2/3 and isn't missable in any case.

Reunion I don't think is compatible but some stuff like menu overhaul can be used with NT if you have 7th heaven installed and working (word of warning, a lot can go wrong during the set-up process so make sure to follow the tutorial as exactly as you can if you decide to go for it).
 
Yeah, I've got 7th heaven with Remako mod running. I was going to use Reunion alongside that but I decided to go with New Threat instead. All I wanted from that mod was the retranslation and the playstation button prompts/icons, but I'm guessing they will conflict with your mod in some way or another. Thanks!
 
The french version may be running off a different .exe which has caused the .exe part of the patch to fail. I have a french FF7 Steam exe I can try and patch (think I have the offsets for it) when I get back from work but let me know if you're on Steam, 7h, etc. as they use different exes.
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I use the steam version and I do not use any other mod
 
Hey Sega Chief, I see that there is a ? ? ? ? ? ? character when you level up your character stats with smiley. Do you intend to add a new playable character or is there already one and I am not far enough yet?
 
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried to run both NT and the retranslation patch? Is it a "works for some and not for some" case, hasn't been tested or do we know that it doesn't work? I see people here and there mention they are trying to run both so I'm just wondering.
 
Since a lot of the dialog lives in the kernel, you'd probably have to do something like this (using Reunion/Beacause as an example):
- Start with clean install
- Apply Reunion/Beacause
- Extract translations using touphScript
- Revert to vanilla and install NT
- Apply extracted text from Beacause to NT-patched exe

edit:  Now mind you, this assumes that Sega Chief has left all the original dialog intact.  I've not played NT, but I'm pretty sure that's *not* the case.
 
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The flevel is the main problem. Open the 7H tool and go to Workshop -> Chunk Tool. There you will see how the sections of the flevel are broken up. Chunk 1 shares the field scripts and dialogues.

NT changes mostly field scripts (but some dialogue), while BC changes mostly dialogue. There's too many overlapping scenes between both, so there isn't any installation order that can be done without overwriting the other and breaking various scenes.

It's possible Toughscript could do it all, but you're asking for a ton of edited data to be automatically fused without any errors. I can't picture that coming out perfectly. Manually editing/positioning will be the better option, but it requires a lot of work. Since both mods are still being developed anyways, I don't recommend doing anything until they have final releases.
 
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Alright, thanks for the responses. I'll just have to suck it up and experience it without Beacause.
 
Is L5 Suicide now Qarry Fuse?

Only reason I ask is, for the Chocobuckle E.Skill, the "Where is this thing" text file says:
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Chocobuckle: Any chocobo (world map)Note: Use L5 Suicide after feeding them greens
But I'm not sure how we can us L5 Suicide if that's been removed. Unless I'm just horribly unlucky and haven't gotten L5 cast on my party yet.

Edit: Just for funsies, I tried casting Quarry Fuse on chocobo and it had the same effect. So I guess the .txt just needs a quick string swap. :)
 
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Stupid question time. Firstly, I'm very curious about this mod. While I love graphics mods (I find Remako for instance revolutionary) I'd always wished for mods that adjust the storyline or events or add new content without breaking canon. Example: I loved the idea behind the Jessie mod, although when I tried it unfortunately it didn't work properly.

Back to the topic, two or three days ago I installed 7H and Remako but spent almost an entire day to get them working, and I did! Using integrated graphics too which I heard would definitely break 7H with graphical mods. Great experience. However, I hadn't noticed New Threat because I found its description on 7H very vague and from the name assumed it's a hardcore mod. (After reading up on it, it sounds awesome.) Big mistake. I believe I've invested close to nine hours into FFVII and I'm currently at Fort Condor. My question is: would it be a big deal if I activated the mod this far into the game? Compared to the hard work you've put into this mod those nine hours are nothing. However, I'd probably wait a few months before restarting the game if I must do that.

I also must ask about the load order. I've read about how to prioritise it (ordering by the mod category) but since this seems to contain some of everything, should I place it at the top? Here's my current mod setup: https://pastebin.com/9L7efFg8
 
Stupid question time. Firstly, I'm very curious about this mod. While I love graphics mods (I find Remako for instance revolutionary) I'd always wished for mods that adjust the storyline or events or add new content without breaking canon. Example: I loved the idea behind the Jessie mod, although when I tried it unfortunately it didn't work properly.

Back to the topic, two or three days ago I installed 7H and Remako but spent almost an entire day to get them working, and I did! Using integrated graphics too which I heard would definitely break 7H with graphical mods. Great experience. However, I hadn't noticed New Threat because I found its description on 7H very vague and from the name assumed it's a hardcore mod. (After reading up on it, it sounds awesome.) Big mistake. I believe I've invested close to nine hours into FFVII and I'm currently at Fort Condor. My question is: would it be a big deal if I activated the mod this far into the game? Compared to the hard work you've put into this mod those nine hours are nothing. However, I'd probably wait a few months before restarting the game if I must do that.

I also must ask about the load order. I've read about how to prioritise it (ordering by the mod category) but since this seems to contain some of everything, should I place it at the top? Here's my current mod setup: https://pastebin.com/9L7efFg8
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You could activate it midway, but you'll be missing a lot of intended Materia like Barrier. I think beyond that it should function correctly though your EXP might need a level up or two before it corrects a visual glitch with the gauges in menus.

For mod load order, it should be closer to the bottom as NT is a gameplay difficulty/story type mod.

Mod Load Order (by type)

Miscellaneous - Dynamic Cloud Weapons
Miscellaneous - Jessie Mod
Miscellaneous - Team Avalanche Fields
Battle Models - Weapons
Field Models - Objects
Animations
Battle Models - Characters
Battle Models - Enemies
Battle Textures
Field Models - Main Characters
Field Models - Non-Player Characters
Field Textures - Omzy/satsuki/yarLson
Gameplay - Difficulty and Story
Gameplay - Tweaks and Cheats
Media - Movies
Media - Music and Sound
Menu - Avatars and Backdrops
Minigames - Chocobo Race
Minigames - Coaster
Minigames - Fort Condor
Minigames - Motorbike Chase
Minigames - Wonder Square
Spell Textures
The Reunion - Beacause and Menu Overhaul
World Models - Characters
World Models - Enemies
World Models - Vehicles
World Textures
 
Anyone got any tips for
Tyrant
in the Northern Crater?  I just don't have the damage output to kill him.   
I think I messed up my character selection when choosing the routes - I've got Cloud, Aeris and Cait Sith - Cloud can only deal about 900hp damage but that gets halved when Tyrant buffs himself, Aeris has to constantly keep HP/MP/Wall up (and occasional Slow), so damage is left to Cait Sith who deals about 3k dmg with Hydro, but I also use him as my tank so is constantly dying.
 
Hello ! I've found this mod just today, and I've already bought Steam FF7 version to play it ! I've played FF7 since its release when I was 7 years old in 1997. I'm also argentinian, so it's my first time playing it in other language than spanish (if you're curious, spanish translation is even worse than english I think). I just started, I'm about to set the bomb in reactor nr 5. If you don't mind, I know I'm late to this thread and the mod development, but I wanted to say three things !:

1st: I'm LOVING IT ! I'm sure it's always good to receive positive feedback ! So I just started and there are already MANY new scenes, battles and things, and it all feels like if it was a "complete squaresoft version". You're awesome Sega Chief !

2nd: Before buying the game to play the mod I really wanted to look more info about the mod, because I really don't like modded games, I always want the original experience. I wanted something concrete I couldn't find, and while a few videos hyped me up, I wanted to make sure the full game was gonna be that awesome and not only that one or two scenes. The Jesse scene and the Zack scene, both of those were the biggest things. I get it, you don't want to spoil the new things, but why not give a number ? Like N scenes updated/added, N weapons added, N command materias added, N battles will now have guests (I'm really hoping there are more battles like the Jesse one against scorpion). That would surely hype a lot of people that are like me, skeptical of mods.

3rd: while I love more the simpler maths in jrpgs and this mod starts off with much more damage, allies and enemies alike, I think this is just it, but something that maaaybe could make it: I've noticed leveling up only affects HP and MP, right ? And until I leave Midgar (I guess this will be until after Kalm flashback) I can't rank up my characters. While I don't love too much the idea of this rank system, why don't you give a very small stat growth per level ? I've tried looking videos about the rank system and all I could get was a gameplay and I saw each new rank gives +5 to all stats right ? Why don't you remove that, leave only the rank-up branch decision and allow a slight growth with each level ? It would make a better "grow" feel while leveling up, and not the static it feels now, while also leaving everything pretty much the same way it is.

Anyways, thank you so much for the awesome time you put into this, I'm a developer and you must have taken a lot of time into this, until now everything feels awesome, and I'll surely love the entire mod !
 
Been trying to learn Goblin Punch from the Boxers at Gongaga. I've sat in fights with these things for way too long and all they do are normal hits. No spells, definitely no Goblin Punch. Manipulate fails 100% of the. I've easily tried 100 times by now.

Is there something I'm missing here?
 
Anyone got any tips for
Tyrant
in the Northern Crater?  I just don't have the damage output to kill him.   
I think I messed up my character selection when choosing the routes - I've got Cloud, Aeris and Cait Sith - Cloud can only deal about 900hp damage but that gets halved when Tyrant buffs himself, Aeris has to constantly keep HP/MP/Wall up (and occasional Slow), so damage is left to Cait Sith who deals about 3k dmg with Hydro, but I also use him as my tank so is constantly dying.
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I did a demo fight of that guy recently, this might provide some ideas. Earth is a good element to stick with for that one, there's also a review of character stats at the end of the video so you can compare with what your team has:

Can provide more in-depth advice when I get back from work and checked out his file.


Hello ! I've found this mod just today, and I've already bought Steam FF7 version to play it ! I've played FF7 since its release when I was 7 years old in 1997. I'm also argentinian, so it's my first time playing it in other language than spanish (if you're curious, spanish translation is even worse than english I think). I just started, I'm about to set the bomb in reactor nr 5. If you don't mind, I know I'm late to this thread and the mod development, but I wanted to say three things !:

1st: I'm LOVING IT ! I'm sure it's always good to receive positive feedback ! So I just started and there are already MANY new scenes, battles and things, and it all feels like if it was a "complete squaresoft version". You're awesome Sega Chief !

2nd: Before buying the game to play the mod I really wanted to look more info about the mod, because I really don't like modded games, I always want the original experience. I wanted something concrete I couldn't find, and while a few videos hyped me up, I wanted to make sure the full game was gonna be that awesome and not only that one or two scenes. The Jesse scene and the Zack scene, both of those were the biggest things. I get it, you don't want to spoil the new things, but why not give a number ? Like N scenes updated/added, N weapons added, N command materias added, N battles will now have guests (I'm really hoping there are more battles like the Jesse one against scorpion). That would surely hype a lot of people that are like me, skeptical of mods.

3rd: while I love more the simpler maths in jrpgs and this mod starts off with much more damage, allies and enemies alike, I think this is just it, but something that maaaybe could make it: I've noticed leveling up only affects HP and MP, right ? And until I leave Midgar (I guess this will be until after Kalm flashback) I can't rank up my characters. While I don't love too much the idea of this rank system, why don't you give a very small stat growth per level ? I've tried looking videos about the rank system and all I could get was a gameplay and I saw each new rank gives +5 to all stats right ? Why don't you remove that, leave only the rank-up branch decision and allow a slight growth with each level ? It would make a better "grow" feel while leveling up, and not the static it feels now, while also leaving everything pretty much the same way it is.

Anyways, thank you so much for the awesome time you put into this, I'm a developer and you must have taken a lot of time into this, until now everything feels awesome, and I'll surely love the entire mod !
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1st: Cheers, bud; I did hear stories about the Spanish translation.

2nd: I could add a count for stuff like that to the documentation I guess

3rd: For the final update I'm working on I've actually done exactly that; I'm going to drop the +5 flat bonus for all stats given by sources to bring back level-based stat growth.


Been trying to learn Goblin Punch from the Boxers at Gongaga. I've sat in fights with these things for way too long and all they do are normal hits. No spells, definitely no Goblin Punch. Manipulate fails 100% of the. I've easily tried 100 times by now.

Is there something I'm missing here?
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I can check him when I get back from work, it should be in his repertoire but maybe it has a specific trigger.
 
I know you might already decided/implemented stats on lvl up, but i would suggest against that. Reason being simply; its harder to fine tune the game if every level has significant impact on how you balance monsters/bosses.

By having only Hp and Mp increase with levels ypu can finetune encounters to what you envision them to be, aka hard or easy. And not to put word/thoughts in other peoples mouths/minds but i do think many of us already know the story by heart (apart from the tweaks) and are searching for a "tight balance" and gameing experiance. I want to use most mechanics implemented and not just "grind it out" like i did with the OG FF7.

Its the same reason i want innates, to use most characters and not just the most visually pleasing/best limitbreakes for damage.

Just my two cents.
 
I can check him when I get back from work, it should be in his repertoire but maybe it has a specific trigger.
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That would be awesome. Thanks. FWIW, I'm running with the Menu Overhaul and using FF7_mo.exe.  Just in case there's something funky about that exe.
 
Thanks for this mod it's awesome! Thought I had an issue with the rank ups but turns out it was just a keybind error lol.

Arrange mode so far has been a blast, I'm trying the randomized rank ups too, hope they don't bite me in the end.
 
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