[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.999992)

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I’m really loving the physical stat boosts from summons. I also have some questions in regards to the Elemental Materia:

1) What does leveling up the Elemental materia do exactly?

2) Can multiple Elemental materias stack? For example, if I equip Ifrit+Elemental and Shiva+Elemental on Cloud’s sword, will all his attacks have both Fire and Ice properties?
 
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I’m really loving the physical stat boosts from summons. I also have some questions in regards to the Elemental Materia:

1) What does leveling up the Elemental materia do exactly?

2) Can multiple Elemental materias stack? For example, if I equip Ifrit+Elemental and Shiva+Elemental on Cloud’s sword, will all his attacks have both Fire and Ice properties?
Elemental, in the Armour, does this for each level:
1 Star: Halves elemental damage of the paired Materia's element
2 Star: Nullifies elemental damage of the paired Materia's element
3 Star: Absorbs elemental damage of the paired Materia's element
4 Star: No additional effect (Master)

Unfortunately stars have no bearing on the weapon, so a 1-star elemental in the weapon has the same effect as a 4-star in the weapon; it adds the paired Mareria's element to your physical attacks (does not affect Limit Breaks as these are like a 'spell' with their own attack data).

You can, however, stack Elemental Materia in a weapon. So if you had Ifrit + Elemental and Shiva + Elemental your attacks will have both Ice and Fire properties. Bear in mind though that resistance overrides weakness; if the enemy Nulls Fire but is weak to Ice, then your attack will deal 0 damage. Even worse, if an enemy Absorbs Fire but is weak to Ice then they'll not only absorb the attack but absorb it for 2x what they normally would.
 
Elemental, in the Armour, does this for each level:
1 Star: Halves elemental damage of the paired Materia's element
2 Star: Nullifies elemental damage of the paired Materia's element
3 Star: Absorbs elemental damage of the paired Materia's element
4 Star: No additional effect (Master)

Unfortunately stars have no bearing on the weapon, so a 1-star elemental in the weapon has the same effect as a 4-star in the weapon; it adds the paired Mareria's element to your physical attacks (does not affect Limit Breaks as these are like a 'spell' with their own attack data).

You can, however, stack Elemental Materia in a weapon. So if you had Ifrit + Elemental and Shiva + Elemental your attacks will have both Ice and Fire properties. Bear in mind though that resistance overrides weakness; if the enemy Nulls Fire but is weak to Ice, then your attack will deal 0 damage. Even worse, if an enemy Absorbs Fire but is weak to Ice then they'll not only absorb the attack but absorb it for 2x what they normally would.
Ah gotcha. So stacking a bunch of elements on a weapon may not always be the best idea. Thanks for all the info.
 
A few questions about Cover.

1) Does the Defend command still appy for a character that’s covering a party member?

2) Does Yuffie’s evasion boost from Perfect Dodge still apply with when she covering someone?
 
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A few questions about Cover.

1) Does the Defend command still appy for a character that’s covering a party member?

2) Does Yuffie’s evasion boost from Perfect Dodge still apply with when she covering someone?
If the character using Cover is Defending then yes. But the character being Covered does not pass their Defend status to the Coverer.

I don't think it does, as Cover nullifies standard evasion. However, it's possible to dodge a physical attack while Covering through the Luck stat. When an attack is made, there is a Luck/4 chance given to the attacker to land an automatic critical hit. If this doesn't pass, the target then rolls Luck/4 for an automatic dodge (known as Lucky Dodge). If this Lucky Dodge roll is made while Covering, you'll dodge the attack.
 
So were Limit Breaks buffed a lot? Tifa just destroyed Palmer with a 12K damage slots combo. And earlier, Cloud hit the Cave of Gi boss for a whooping 7.3K damage Climhazard. And Cloud was only Rank 2 at the time with 118 STR.
 
I noticed some weirdness with the white chocobo in Mideel on disc 3. When I picked the 3rd option to scratch it's neck or whichever one made it angry, it hopped over Cid's head and the game soft locked. Also, the first option results in kind of a confusing response.
 
Thought this mod was cool but OP is a bad person. I just spent 4 hours at the battle arena in the middle of the night with only 60 gp on disc 1 because I COULDNT GET FREE GP FROM MOG HOUSE and the other games werent awarding gp fast enough for me. I won the first round and got 11k battle points. I then proceeded to lose 3 rounds to status lock(theres a round where theres 2 mps who inflict stop and a robot who inflicts sleep and they all use magic attacks for some god awful stupid reason) only win 3k bps in 1 round and then ran out of ferning healing items and couldnt leave the battle arena, so of course with no remedys or echo drops left I get silenced in round 1 of my last attempt while wearing a touph ring.  GIVE ME MY CIRCLET! I STAYED UP ALL NIGHT FOR IT! I EARNED IT YOU F@!$%^! ALSO REMOVE ALL THE STATUS SPAM AT ONCE! ITS  INFURIATING! I was waking up my neighbors screaming at 3 am at how often the status procs were happening in the battle arena. Im not coming back to this site, just had to let mod author know I want to punch him in the face right now for this multiple hour 15.7k bp BULLSHIT! RESPECT PEOPLE's TIME d*ck! MAYBE DONT PUT CONSTANT STATUS EFFECTS IN A MODE WHERE YOU CAN LOSE YOUR ITEMS AND MAGIC randomly! WHY WAS I ALWAYS LOSING ALL MY MP RIGHT BEFORE THE STATUS SPAMMING ROUND? WHY WERENT THE MOBS ROTATING? YOU ferning RIGGED IT! fern you apricothole. Was enjoying the mod til you pulled this stupid sadistic bullshit you fuckstick. Now it's uninstalled and I'm making sure people know this mod is rng-infested cheating trash. I hope your christmas is awful for this. Ruining my christmas eve with your bs.
 
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So were Limit Breaks buffed a lot? Tifa just destroyed Palmer with a 12K damage slots combo. And earlier, Cloud hit the Cave of Gi boss for a whooping 7.3K damage Climhazard. And Cloud was only Rank 2 at the time with 118 STR.
That seems uncommonly high, Limits weren't overly buffed from what I remember. Even if the 7.3k was a crit, 3.5k still seems high.

I noticed some weirdness with the white chocobo in Mideel on disc 3. When I picked the 3rd option to scratch it's neck or whichever one made it angry, it hopped over Cid's head and the game soft locked. Also, the first option results in kind of a confusing response.
I'm guessing it's the one after Mideel is destroyed? I think I had to add handling for Tifa and Cid for that one because it's ordinarily Cloud only. Something must have been missed logically.

Thought this mod was cool but OP is a bad person. I just spent 4 hours at the battle arena in the middle of the night with only 60 gp on disc 1 because I COULDNT GET FREE GP FROM MOG HOUSE and the other games werent awarding gp fast enough for me. I won the first round and got 11k battle points. I then proceeded to lose 3 rounds to status lock(theres a round where theres 2 mps who inflict stop and a robot who inflicts sleep and they all use magic attacks for some god awful stupid reason) only win 3k bps in 1 round and then ran out of ferning healing items and couldnt leave the battle arena, so of course with no remedys or echo drops left I get silenced in round 1 of my last attempt while wearing a touph ring.  GIVE ME MY CIRCLET! I STAYED UP ALL NIGHT FOR IT! I EARNED IT YOU F@!$%^! ALSO REMOVE ALL THE STATUS SPAM AT ONCE! ITS  INFURIATING! I was waking up my neighbors screaming at 3 am at how often the status procs were happening in the battle arena. Im not coming back to this site, just had to let mod author know I want to punch him in the face right now for this multiple hour 15.7k bp BULLSHIT! RESPECT PEOPLE's TIME d*ck! MAYBE DONT PUT CONSTANT STATUS EFFECTS IN A MODE WHERE YOU CAN LOSE YOUR ITEMS AND MAGIC randomly! WHY WAS I ALWAYS LOSING ALL MY MP RIGHT BEFORE THE STATUS SPAMMING ROUND? WHY WERENT THE MOBS ROTATING? YOU ferning RIGGED IT! fern you apricothole. Was enjoying the mod til you pulled this stupid sadistic bullshit you fuckstick. Now it's uninstalled and I'm making sure people know this mod is rng-infested cheating trash. I hope your christmas is awful for this. Ruining my christmas eve with your bs.
I don't think it's good to let yourself get into that kind of state over it; the Battle Square has always had RNG baked into it from the reels. To help offset the RNG in Battle Square, the three sets of enemies (pre-Bronco, Bronco acquired, and Highwind acquired) are the same eight battles each time to help players prep for consistent runs; if an enemy hits you with a certain status, you can equip against that and expect it to turn up on the next run instead of a different enemy that uses different attacks; this was a problem in the Hardcore mod where the enemy sets were still random but hitting much harder, making consistent prep very difficult.

The BP situation is the same as vanilla in that it resets when leaving, but I could look into changing this so that it's stored permanently, that would prevent players coming short on the BP needed for certain items due to running out of GP or recovery items. The BP won is also dependent on the reels, but varies wildly. I could make it so that it checks for the total BP yield and then adjust it up to a base minimum that isn't too far behind the high yield reels.

Earning GP tends to take time unless you've got your own Chocobo for the races and have been doing them for breeding/S-Rank special prize or are fairly consistent with the basketball minigame. The Mog minigame gives 20GP or so but it's a one-off, even in the default game so not really useful long-term. The NPC that sells GP was scripted to always show up as well (once he's available) which costs gil but that can be obtained a lot faster on Disc 3 using the left-up path Magic Pots/Movers to farm up All Materia, with the pots asking for Ethers instead of Elixirs.
 
Thought this mod was cool but OP is a bad person. I just spent 4 hours at the battle arena in the middle of the night with only 60 gp on disc 1 because I COULDNT GET FREE GP FROM MOG HOUSE and the other games werent awarding gp fast enough for me. I won the first round and got 11k battle points. I then proceeded to lose 3 rounds to status lock(theres a round where theres 2 mps who inflict stop and a robot who inflicts sleep and they all use magic attacks for some god awful stupid reason) only win 3k bps in 1 round and then ran out of ferning healing items and couldnt leave the battle arena, so of course with no remedys or echo drops left I get silenced in round 1 of my last attempt while wearing a touph ring.  GIVE ME MY CIRCLET! I STAYED UP ALL NIGHT FOR IT! I EARNED IT YOU F@!$%^! ALSO REMOVE ALL THE STATUS SPAM AT ONCE! ITS  INFURIATING! I was waking up my neighbors screaming at 3 am at how often the status procs were happening in the battle arena. Im not coming back to this site, just had to let mod author know I want to punch him in the face right now for this multiple hour 15.7k bp BULLSHIT! RESPECT PEOPLE's TIME d*ck! MAYBE DONT PUT CONSTANT STATUS EFFECTS IN A MODE WHERE YOU CAN LOSE YOUR ITEMS AND MAGIC randomly! WHY WAS I ALWAYS LOSING ALL MY MP RIGHT BEFORE THE STATUS SPAMMING ROUND? WHY WERENT THE MOBS ROTATING? YOU ferning RIGGED IT! fern you apricothole. Was enjoying the mod til you pulled this stupid sadistic bullshit you fuckstick. Now it's uninstalled and I'm making sure people know this mod is rng-infested cheating trash. I hope your christmas is awful for this. Ruining my christmas eve with your bs.
Dude take a chill pill. And you realize what you complain about is in vanilla right?
 
Thought this mod was cool but OP is a bad person. I just spent 4 hours at the battle arena in the middle of the night with only 60 gp on disc 1 because I COULDNT GET FREE GP FROM MOG HOUSE and the other games werent awarding gp fast enough for me. I won the first round and got 11k battle points. I then proceeded to lose 3 rounds to status lock(theres a round where theres 2 mps who inflict stop and a robot who inflicts sleep and they all use magic attacks for some god awful stupid reason) only win 3k bps in 1 round and then ran out of ferning healing items and couldnt leave the battle arena, so of course with no remedys or echo drops left I get silenced in round 1 of my last attempt while wearing a touph ring.  GIVE ME MY CIRCLET! I STAYED UP ALL NIGHT FOR IT! I EARNED IT YOU F@!$%^! ALSO REMOVE ALL THE STATUS SPAM AT ONCE! ITS  INFURIATING! I was waking up my neighbors screaming at 3 am at how often the status procs were happening in the battle arena. Im not coming back to this site, just had to let mod author know I want to punch him in the face right now for this multiple hour 15.7k bp BULLSHIT! RESPECT PEOPLE's TIME d*ck! MAYBE DONT PUT CONSTANT STATUS EFFECTS IN A MODE WHERE YOU CAN LOSE YOUR ITEMS AND MAGIC randomly! WHY WAS I ALWAYS LOSING ALL MY MP RIGHT BEFORE THE STATUS SPAMMING ROUND? WHY WERENT THE MOBS ROTATING? YOU ferning RIGGED IT! fern you apricothole. Was enjoying the mod til you pulled this stupid sadistic bullshit you fuckstick. Now it's uninstalled and I'm making sure people know this mod is rng-infested cheating trash. I hope your christmas is awful for this. Ruining my christmas eve with your bs.
It's unfortunate that you had that experience, and judging from your post, you'll likely never come back to read this.

In the event you do or there are others stuck at the Battle Square, not much has changed in the Battle Square compared to the base game. What has changed is being required to actually think an encounter through and not just brute force it by holding down the confirm button and just killing things mindlessly with little effort.

You are given multiple tools to deal with this encounter, even as early as disc 1. You can put some gear on to prevent the more annoying status effects, you can use things like slow-all to give you an edge, haste yourself, use regen if you grind enough AP that early, etc. You can also rely on certain summons to wipe the floor with specific enemy sets (Titan comes to mind with instant petrify), guaranteeing they die upon cast or inflict them with the same ailments  on you.

On your armor you can equip the added effect materia to begin nullifying certain status effect such as Time Magic which makes stop miss all together and there are plenty more options out there, not going to go into all the details.

Here's hoping once you cool off and look back at this, you'll realize it's only one man, with a vision, and he can't satisfy everyone, but has clearly satisfied nearly an entire generation that grew up playing the awfully easy original.
 
I, too, was initially irked by how much more noticeable status effects were in the Battle Arena, but then I remembered I was on Disc 3. So I went and snatched some Ribbons, and let Cid go wild in the Battle Arena with 3 Counter Materias and the Venus Gospel. (btw, the Poison Reel bypassed Ribbon while the Toad and Mini reels were blocked by Ribbon.)

This mod definitely gives you way more tools to work than vanilla with by the time you can start doing Battle Arena (though I haven't really seen it ever being worthwhile to go through it as early as possible), so there's no real excuse to get that butthurt about not being able to mash Attack.
 
Hi,

First of all i just wanna say that i really love the work you have put in to this mod @Sega Chief. Currently at the end of disc 2 trying to figure out where to find stuff.

One thing that bothers me though;
I have googled and searched a lot on where to find the triple ap weapons, but havent been able to find any kind of information regarding this.

I was watching a gameplay video on Youtube (Maximillian Dood) and he had triple ap weapon for Tifa during his fight with Pearl weapon. I just beat the weapon and have no such thing.

If anyone could be kind to enlighten me where to find them, that would be lovely.

Best regards,
Novastrike
 
Hi,

First of all i just wanna say that i really love the work you have put in to this mod @Sega Chief. Currently at the end of disc 2 trying to figure out where to find stuff.

One thing that bothers me though;
I have googled and searched a lot on where to find the triple ap weapons, but havent been able to find any kind of information regarding this.

I was watching a gameplay video on Youtube (Maximillian Dood) and he had triple ap weapon for Tifa during his fight with Pearl weapon. I just beat the weapon and have no such thing.

If anyone could be kind to enlighten me where to find them, that would be lovely.

Best regards,
Novastrike
Hey there, most of the triple AP weapons are in the sunken Gelnika so you can access them when you have the sub. :)
 
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Hey there, most of the triple AP weapons are in the sunken Gelnika so you can access them when you have the sub. :)
Ah, i see. Thank you very much for the response! :-D
 
Hello there, I must say this mod is amazing, well done, it really felt like an improvement over the original game.

I am having one problem though, the game "freezes" (more likely soft locks, as the FPS counter is still there going from 30 to 31 from time to time) every time I attempt the optional cave dungeon in the Sleeping Forest (Dio's sidequest in disc 3), when Cloud wakes up where the game begins and Barret speaks, nothing happens, I can do nothing, they just stay at each other forever and that's it. Is this caused by some other mod conflict, to your knowledge? Thanks.
 
Hello there, I must say this mod is amazing, well done, it really felt like an improvement over the original game.

I am having one problem though, the game "freezes" (more likely soft locks, as the FPS counter is still there going from 30 to 31 from time to time) every time I attempt the optional cave dungeon in the Sleeping Forest (Dio's sidequest in disc 3), when Cloud wakes up where the game begins and Barret speaks, nothing happens, I can do nothing, they just stay at each other forever and that's it. Is this caused by some other mod conflict, to your knowledge? Thanks.
Whenever this issue arises, it seems to be linked to other mods although the reason why isn't clear. Best thing to do is disable other mods, play until the first save point, then reactivate them all.
 
Love this mod so much I can't go back to the original the same way anymore. Can't wait for VIII NT, the beta was great. Seems a few of us have been streaming on twitch for playthroughs of NT so that's cool too.

Not sure if this is something that has been addressed yet or not, but my first playthrough I ended up getting stuck unable to do some of the optional fights (namely, materia bosses). I missed getting Deathblow from the Great Glacier so I ended up landing the Highwind and taking a green chocobo over the mountains, parked outside of the glacier, and walked in. Got Deathblow, went back to the exit, and it took me to the back of Icicle Inn. If I exited out the back of the town, I had to do the snowboarding segment again. Couldn't get to my chocobo anymore, nor could I release it/mate/breed/etc as it was still on the map, but apparently unreachable. Any ideas on this? It was v1.5, no other mods used, normal run. Wasn't a huge deal as I wanted to play again in Arrange Mode (which I'm doing now, even better) but I basically couldn't do any of the other fights.

Also, is there any way to leave the Ein Sof screen at the end if you save there, or is it only for the final battle and ending?
 
Love this mod so much I can't go back to the original the same way anymore. Can't wait for VIII NT, the beta was great. Seems a few of us have been streaming on twitch for playthroughs of NT so that's cool too.

Not sure if this is something that has been addressed yet or not, but my first playthrough I ended up getting stuck unable to do some of the optional fights (namely, materia bosses). I missed getting Deathblow from the Great Glacier so I ended up landing the Highwind and taking a green chocobo over the mountains, parked outside of the glacier, and walked in. Got Deathblow, went back to the exit, and it took me to the back of Icicle Inn. If I exited out the back of the town, I had to do the snowboarding segment again. Couldn't get to my chocobo anymore, nor could I release it/mate/breed/etc as it was still on the map, but apparently unreachable. Any ideas on this? It was v1.5, no other mods used, normal run. Wasn't a huge deal as I wanted to play again in Arrange Mode (which I'm doing now, even better) but I basically couldn't do any of the other fights.

Also, is there any way to leave the Ein Sof screen at the end if you save there, or is it only for the final battle and ending?
Ah, I think that was mentioned before with Icicle Inn. I checked and it's something I've done; for some reason, I've set it to check Party Leader is Cloud when leaving Great Glacier by the standard south exit. If it's Cloud, it goes to world map. If it's the others, it jumps to Icicle Inn field. The blue 'rollercoaster' also exits to Icicle Inn instead of the world map.

This is something that was done a very long time ago so I'm not sure what the goal with it was.

A save editor is probably best way to go for now; open the save file, and go to the Location tab. Click on Worldmap Location at the bottom. On the world map picture on the right, right click somewhere and select 'place tiny bronco/chocobo'. That should hopefully move the chocobo to a retrievable location.

As for the final screen, that's just a staging area to save the game + re-equip for the final boss; it currently has no exit.
 
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