[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.999992)

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I didn't see it mentioned, but Cid's Hyper Jump Limit tries to do Dragon's animation instead of its own.

It still does the right damage, but it looks silly.
 
Sorry to bother you again, but did you check the drain % in the main installer? I think its generally underpreforming. Though at endgame it might be too strong. So maybe keep all drain weapons at low attack (like Force Stealer)?

Edit: Is no weapon "morph" weapon anymore? I just got the umbrella expecting Str build on Aerith to be my morph char ... ;(
 
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Edit: Is no weapon "morph" weapon anymore? I just got the umbrella expecting Str build on Aerith to be my morph char ... ;(
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when did u get the umbrella aries date or ? :) its possible to grab on disc1 type b at least way back in midgar which little surprised about until seen just 2 slots and 29k gil.  (type b)

some weapons still say ignores defense. maybe worth trying them. (although from couple  which tried seems way down) in dmg terms. elemental weakness will help a lot with morph. alternatively example: is 2 shot morph vamp fangs v early in game via aries semi mag build vs whole eaters (4 in a group) 900 gil a piece 3600gil each battle 1x all fire followed by cloud morph (+ any extra steals for items) thats appeared to be most effieciate gil location until much later on in game.

curious if ur like me and want one of everything :D + try bosses at earliest oppertunity
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Type B: Shin-Godo:
Game always crash when his HP is 0. v2.0.92

How do i receive W-Magic and X-Attack from the Kalm Traveller?
 
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Not sure this has to do with the mod on type B, but I came across an invisible save point on the right exit of Area 0 (the one just before the passage to Shinra HQ during the Midgar Raid). It didn't seem very consistent, it stopped working as a save point sometimes but it still made the sound when I walked on it.


I guess people didn't like Curator being so hard, but I was way overprepared for it after it traumatized me in 1.5 and I was expecting the same kind of challenge. :p
 
Type B: Shin-Godo:
Game always crash when his HP is 0. v2.0.92

How do i receive W-Magic and X-Attack from the Kalm Traveller?
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he wishes to trade somethings :) he does tell u what they are.
 
Recieving a certain limit from Barret in Kalm gave me a softlock, as you can see here. I'm gonna try talking to him from a different angle, since he seems to want to head in this direction.

EDIT : As Cid, I'm invisible in the playground area just before the Wall Market. I'm assuming he's not supposed to go there while the map isn't in "Sector 7 destroyed" mode, since I'm on Type B.

EDIT2 : As a counter to Dragonsong, the Black Hero used Frostpolo on the Green Hero.
 
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Type B. Shinra Mansion.
 Iirc in the note it says that the key is not in the vault but in a one of the boxes but I found it in the coffin, intended?

In the note there's a 5th line erased with "melody" Is there any porpouse to it that I'm not aware of?
 
he wishes to trade somethings :) he does tell u what they are.
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Not really...  only W-Magic :(

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I didn't see it mentioned, but Cid's Hyper Jump Limit tries to do Dragon's animation instead of its own.

It still does the right damage, but it looks silly.
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Odd, but maybe I did something like change it to avoid the steam issue where Hyper Jump can crash the game. I'll change it back if that's the case.

Sorry to bother you again, but did you check the drain % in the main installer? I think its generally underpreforming. Though at endgame it might be too strong. So maybe keep all drain weapons at low attack (like Force Stealer)?

Edit: Is no weapon "morph" weapon anymore? I just got the umbrella expecting Str build on Aerith to be my morph char ... ;(
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Maybe the .exes weren't rebuilt with that change implemented, will have it in there for the next.

The only Morph weapon is the Conformer; what I could do is make some adjustments to those weapons so that they fill this role again.

Type B: Shin-Godo:
Game always crash when his HP is 0. v2.0.92

How do i receive W-Magic and X-Attack from the Kalm Traveller?
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I couldn't replicate the crash.

For the additional items the Kalm Traveller has, you need to first get him the three things he asks for. Once the Desert Rose, Earth Harp, and Guidebook are delivered he'll give you a bonus of 3 Materia: X-Attack, HP-MP Swap, and Core.

Not sure this has to do with the mod on type B, but I came across an invisible save point on the right exit of Area 0 (the one just before the passage to Shinra HQ during the Midgar Raid). It didn't seem very consistent, it stopped working as a save point sometimes but it still made the sound when I walked on it.


I guess people didn't like Curator being so hard, but I was way overprepared for it after it traumatized me in 1.5 and I was expecting the same kind of challenge. :p
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I forgot to fix that save point so it's disabled there; it's actually the same screen as the one where you find the yellow Materia but with stuff added to the layer to make it appear different (that's why the save point code is there; the line code needs to be updated with something to deactivate it like the model).

Recieving a certain limit from Barret in Kalm gave me a softlock, as you can see here. I'm gonna try talking to him from a different angle, since he seems to want to head in this direction.

EDIT : As Cid, I'm invisible in the playground area just before the Wall Market. I'm assuming he's not supposed to go there while the map isn't in "Sector 7 destroyed" mode, since I'm on Type B.

EDIT2 : As a counter to Dragonsong, the Black Hero used Frostpolo on the Green Hero.
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I added a thing where Cloud would move out of the way beforehand, but I forgot you can be here with Tifa and Cid as well so they just stay in his way. Will add that and these two other things to my notes.

Type B. Shinra Mansion.
 Iirc in the note it says that the key is not in the vault but in a one of the boxes but I found it in the coffin, intended?

In the note there's a 5th line erased with "melody" Is there any porpouse to it that I'm not aware of?
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I moved the key but forgot to update the 'clue' so will sort that out.


The 5th clue has nothing to do with the safe, but instead refers to the piano which is actually playable; if you play the melody on it usually used to get Tifa's Final Heaven, then something happens but it needs to be done on Disc 3. It can also be tricky to play by ear due to some of the keys being 'duds' but they still register as key presses.
 
Yeah, I think with any low-level run the first thing to be plotted out is: how can the attacks hitting the whole party be navigated.
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Think I am stuck atm,
Demons gate
on a low lvl run.

 The main problem is that the Gate spams "Cave-In" which i have tried to protect myself against with water resist. Also noticed that you cant 3x Trine bounce with 3 Reflect rings on, so that was a wipe aswell. Any ideas how i can survive that or alter the AI with my actions?

Further i can point out that the Pincer battler with the two Dragons is pure RNG if you start with Sneak attack + Manipulate and pray that MVP Cait doesnt get attacked, since that might be something to look at. Other then that all bosses from Corel to the TofA is manageble


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 After about 20 min of using Geostance, 30 Poenix Downs and keeping up with the dmg i managed to get him down to 2000 hp. Ofc he has a Almagaest (or whatever its called) and kills all my chars in one go. Looks like (for the time being) my low level run has ended :(


F*** YES I MANAGED TO BEAT THE DEMON WALL god damn it was tough. Aeris was MVP with Geo stance and Cait on a close 2nd with that large HP pool.

It feels good doing this challenge, I can assure y'all!
 
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Think I am stuck atm,
Demons gate
on a low lvl run.

 The main problem is that the Gate spams "Cave-In" which i have tried to protect myself against with water resist. Also noticed that you cant 3x Trine bounce with 3 Reflect rings on, so that was a wipe aswell. Any ideas how i can survive that or alter the AI with my actions?

Further i can point out that the Pincer battler with the two Dragons is pure RNG if you start with Sneak attack + Manipulate and pray that MVP Cait doesnt get attacked, since that might be something to look at. Other then that all bosses from Corel to the TofA is manageble


EDIT:

 After about 20 min of using Geostance, 30 Poenix Downs and keeping up with the dmg i managed to get him down to 2000 hp. Ofc he has a Almagaest (or whatever its called) and kills all my chars in one go. Looks like (for the time being) my low level run has ended :(


F*** YES I MANAGED TO BEAT THE DEMON WALL god damn it was tough. Aeris was MVP with Geo stance and Cait on a close 2nd with that large HP pool.

It feels good doing this challenge, I can assure y'all!
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Sounds like it's going well; you're past the fight now but will answer some of the questions anyway.

Cave-in I think is Ice-element rather than water. You'll encounter Cave-in from the Icicles in Gaea's Cliffs but it's single-target and shouldn't pose much danger.

As for Demon Gate's AI, I think it will ignore characters that have the gradual petrify status that it inflicts from Petrif-Eye; I probably kept that in its NT 2.0 AI because I think NT 1.5 also kept the AI (or something similar). You can't really determine who will be the target for Petrif-Eye though, beyond them already having the status so it'd be more efficient to use a Vagyrisk Claw on whoever you didn't want to be attacked during the fight, though they're difficult to acquire in vanilla due to how they were positioned in Bagrisk's steal table. They're much easier to get in NT though, so could prob be used for this if they were needed.

The other thing you can do with Demons Gate is 'lock' it into using Demon Rush by dealing enough damage to get it to the next HP increment where it is due to go into the preparation stance for it. He spends an empty turn setting it up and then can potentially skip another turn before using it, giving some extra time to lay down damage and move closer to the next HP increment. I think in some runs you'd use heavier attacks toward the end in order to spend less time fighting him at lower HP, as his chance of using double rock-drop increases as his HP gets lower so you'd want him to be locked into prepping Demon Rush as much as possible at the lower HP thresholds rather than the higher ones.
 
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Just started this Mod and loving it.

One question:


I'm playing Type B and at the Corel Prison. The Item Placement File says that there is a Magic Counter Materia in this zone - am I just not looking in the right spots because I have had no luck at all!
 
Does it matter if I have NT at the bottom of my load order? I found I was having problems with my world map models  when I had it in the recommended slot. It would show the NT models instead of the ones I wanted to use.
Thanks
 
Completing the Nibelheim flashback and renaming the characters basically "resets" Cait Sith, as in his equipment is overwritten with the equipment he got when he first joins in the vanilla game (deleting whatever he had equipped in the process) and with a Transform and Manipulate Materia.

The bigger problem is it also destroys his SP upgrades, with no way to restore them because Mr. Smile considers him as fully upgraded. I can restore it somewhat with a save editor, but I think it's still an important issue.
 
I couldn't replicate the crash.
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Yeah it solved somehow by itself. So the crash occured after the midgar raid and before entering the north cave. After completing the north cave (not killed Sephiroth yet) the game didn´t crashed when i tried it again and his hp reached 0. Weird :S
 
Just started this Mod and loving it.

One question:


I'm playing Type B and at the Corel Prison. The Item Placement File says that there is a Magic Counter Materia in this zone - am I just not looking in the right spots because I have had no luck at all!
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It should be in the car junkyard, the screen prior to Dyne. But I remember toggling some of it on/off depending on the mode, that I think was one of them. It can be acquired from Chocobo Racing as well.

Does it matter if I have NT at the bottom of my load order? I found I was having problems with my world map models  when I had it in the recommended slot. It would show the NT models instead of the ones I wanted to use.
Thanks
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Nah, it should be fine. Never really knew why world map went bottom, assumed it was in case there's script alterations but I don't make any to the world map.

Completing the Nibelheim flashback and renaming the characters basically "resets" Cait Sith, as in his equipment is overwritten with the equipment he got when he first joins in the vanilla game (deleting whatever he had equipped in the process) and with a Transform and Manipulate Materia.

The bigger problem is it also destroys his SP upgrades, with no way to restore them because Mr. Smile considers him as fully upgraded. I can restore it somewhat with a save editor, but I think it's still an important issue.
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That's quite serious; I guess it's tied to this business with Young Cloud being overwritten by Cait when you recruit him. I'll need to ditch the rename thing in that case.

Yeah it solved somehow by itself. So the crash occured after the midgar raid and before entering the north cave. After completing the north cave (not killed Sephiroth yet) the game didn´t crashed when i tried it again and his hp reached 0. Weird :S
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Maybe it's if he's in a certain stance or something else.
 
ye in this very thread is a list was sure. 

tbh would try them all thou :D


greens
pahsana  - gives you some clues for something else
mimmit - one with chocobo
sylikis w-item materia (u can get earlier than highwind via morph the grass at watui area
tantal is funny animations

nuts
carob cheese
saraha dance
zeio fight
lucile flies away

feel free to try the others  some change ur hp/warp u somewhere or do a yuffie replacement materia switcharoo :D
 
A certain round guy casts Cure3 as a counter on the entire party instead of himself, although I think it only happens when it's used as a counter, because he cast it properly once. Not sure it's intentional.

I also don't think he dropped anything after dying, although I'm probably gonna reload and fight him again later because I cheesed him by accident with Great Gospel and plenty of Counter Attacks while he killed himself with Doomsday.
 
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