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rufusluciusivan
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It's on both. And you're welcome.
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amatiramisu
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Hi all! I am new here, and just installed the mod yesterday from 7th Heaven launcher. Is the RNG for Yuffie still the same here? I have been trying to get her, and at Mt. Nibel now and she hasn't spawned yet. Thank you!
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rufusluciusivan
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Hello. You must have encountered a bug. In New Threat, Yuffie isn't optional anymore. She joins the team automatically in Kalm, after Cloud's flashback. (There's an added scene.) If you have other mods enabled on 7th Heaven, I'd wager one of them is in conflict with New Threat. If you have a save before Cloud's flashback, I suggest disabling all mods save for New Threat, and load the save to trigger Yuffie's cutscene. (Personally, when playing New Threat, I barely use other mods just in case.)
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Kitaka
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Hey, I've got three questions:
1: which file you have to modify to change a character's innate? E.g. if I wanted to remove "deathblow" from Cloud's innate, or have Tifa "reanimate" with 100HP instead of 1HP.
2: is it possible to change weapon models? Let's say I wanted Cloud to use the Masamune model (Sephiroth's sword) for his Yoshiyuki weapon.
3: how do you change the placement of collectible Materia on the field? New Threat changes around some of the Materia, and Type B even adds completely new placements (like Counter Attack in the first reactor mission).
thank you for the amazing mod, btw. It's really nice to have a fresh experience for the game
1: which file you have to modify to change a character's innate? E.g. if I wanted to remove "deathblow" from Cloud's innate, or have Tifa "reanimate" with 100HP instead of 1HP.
2: is it possible to change weapon models? Let's say I wanted Cloud to use the Masamune model (Sephiroth's sword) for his Yoshiyuki weapon.
3: how do you change the placement of collectible Materia on the field? New Threat changes around some of the Materia, and Type B even adds completely new placements (like Counter Attack in the first reactor mission).
thank you for the amazing mod, btw. It's really nice to have a fresh experience for the game
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Miles Lucis
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random question, why cant i send a personal message to Sega Chief? Im new to this forum and everytime i click the link for sending a message i just get an error.
Hi Sega Chief, ive been playing your NT 2.0 mod for months and enjoy diving into all the intricacies the mod has done for the gameplay and i wanted to share some things with you if thats ok.
Let me know. Thank you
Hi Sega Chief, ive been playing your NT 2.0 mod for months and enjoy diving into all the intricacies the mod has done for the gameplay and i wanted to share some things with you if thats ok.
Let me know. Thank you
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Sega Chief
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(Sorry for late replies)
The Aeris thing at the end of Disc 1 is available on vanilla combat, but was modified to deal with the vanilla encounter; some dialogue appears after the battle to make the decision instead of it being done within the battle itself.
Weapon models can be changed more easily but requires tools like Luksy's ULGP or similar; unpacking the battle.lgp and then renaming some files should do the trick. In this case, you want to make a copy of the file called SACK (this is Sephiroth's Masamune) and rename it to RTCK (cloud's buster sword). The files that go from RTCK to RTCZ are all of Cloud's weapons and can also be replaced in this way, just bear in mind that RTCZ, the Ultima Weapon, applies some hard-coded shading effects to represent its HP property; changing the damage formula in the Kernel.bin will not disable this shading filter.
For materia placements, you use the Makou Reactor tool; there are some steps. The first is to set a group for the materia, this is to store scripts and set a model + anim to. The 2nd is to set the scripts so that the materia model is placed on coordinates on the map, and handles the interact event of picking it up and acquiring it. You can generally copy a Materia's 'group' and paste it onto another field provided there are less than 16 model groups on it already, then update the values like Group Id, add a model, placement coordinates etc. as needed.
Ah yeah, that's to do with I think a graphical mod.
I checked, it does seem to be there along with Bahamut ZERO and Phoenix; it seems to share the same dig location as the Dragoon Lance.
I think vanilla combat doesn't have the Type A/Type B routes because of all the different encounters on Type B, so it just uses Type A I believe.
The Aeris thing at the end of Disc 1 is available on vanilla combat, but was modified to deal with the vanilla encounter; some dialogue appears after the battle to make the decision instead of it being done within the battle itself.
Yuffie joins in a mandatory cutscene in Kalm, if shes not there then something has gone very awry, or perhaps the mod was installed after this point.
Innates are unfortunately handled through Character AI in the Kernel.bin, the tool for which does not have a ready copy-paste function (unlike the scene.bin editor for enemies, which uses the same AI editor but with extra features like that). Changing them will be a case of copying all the values into notepad, deleting them, then manually readding the desired innate one value at a time.
Weapon models can be changed more easily but requires tools like Luksy's ULGP or similar; unpacking the battle.lgp and then renaming some files should do the trick. In this case, you want to make a copy of the file called SACK (this is Sephiroth's Masamune) and rename it to RTCK (cloud's buster sword). The files that go from RTCK to RTCZ are all of Cloud's weapons and can also be replaced in this way, just bear in mind that RTCZ, the Ultima Weapon, applies some hard-coded shading effects to represent its HP property; changing the damage formula in the Kernel.bin will not disable this shading filter.
For materia placements, you use the Makou Reactor tool; there are some steps. The first is to set a group for the materia, this is to store scripts and set a model + anim to. The 2nd is to set the scripts so that the materia model is placed on coordinates on the map, and handles the interact event of picking it up and acquiring it. You can generally copy a Materia's 'group' and paste it onto another field provided there are less than 16 model groups on it already, then update the values like Group Id, add a model, placement coordinates etc. as needed.
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Sega Chief
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Ah hello, the forum is a bit old so it has some security stuff to protect it against bots. I think new members can't send DMs until they've made X amount of posts in the threads or something. When you unlock DMs by posting, feel free to send one.
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Miles Lucis
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Ah, got it. thank you for letting me know. i just wanted to share some of the spreadsheets i created for NT 2.0 and wanted to know if you wanted to put them into your documentations file for everybody.
I also have been documenting some slight imbalances throughout my multiple playthroughs that i wanted to bring to your attention also whenever you get the chance. or whenever i get to the point where the forum will allow me to send DMs. LOL.
most of the things ive been researching have all been done on the Type A playthrough but im sure everything is mostly the same for Type B so i didnt really bother with testing on there.
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Miles Lucis
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i posted this a few months ago but your were gone during that time. here is my original post in case you wanted a head start as to what i was researching at the time. i have done much more since then of course. sorry for all the messages.
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Kitaka
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Thank you for the detailed answers, much appreciated!
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wdx
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most likely as time magic, prob a choice of all or none. slow can be considered as a buff too as it will make likes of positive status effects last twice as long
death sentence effect still kills. just that the hp isn't reduced to 1 when grit activates will be whatever hp she had prior
this was intentional as far as aware, it used do that, however was deemed too op, it also raised enemies which were zombified
which was great for kotr cave boss
documental is slightly outdated.
segachief had mentioned something like a redo of hardmode called struggle mode in qhimms new threat discord channel. gil is very easy to come by at all area's is my own thoughts on it gil never really being an issue, from very early game there is a 4 move possible to get 4K gill
wholeeaters morph into vampire fangs which sell 900gil and have a steal worth a little bit as well. if do fort condor and sell the items win there is no need farm gil at all. no idea why think she gets double gil during battles doesnt here, she has 2 innates, one is charging throw (defend after charged to use) the other innate she has is if in front row she uses mug. think there was a mention of v2.1.x on discord that was a wee while ago, might be worth waiting before replay for update
segachief has a hard time of trying to balance between all the modes/types inclusive of wether someone plays with or without exp. alongside the new choice in 7th heaven relaxed mode... there is bound to be some gametypes more suited than others for balance purposes.
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Miles Lucis
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Thank you for your insight. I'll have to join the Discord Server and participate in the conversations there as well. I didn't know that had one tbh.
Risk Ring... Makes sense there because I remember the Slow status effect making buffs like barriers last longer. But is it possible to make it to where slow doesn't do that? Or is that a difficult thing to implement?
Tifa... I still feel that instant death effects should still kill off Tifa even if she still has her Grit available. Because currently this kinda defeats the purpose of equipping any armor of accessories that protect against them since Tifa can always naturally negate it once per battle. Everything else in the game is fine, but personally I just feel that instant death effects should bypass grit.
Gil... I had a feeling that hard mode was a bit tough to balance. During my multiple playthroughs, I've noticed that you don't need to farm for gil at all because right in the very beginning of the game, if cloud gets picked by Don Corneo in Wall Market, you get awarded a Cats Bell, which sells for 50,000 gil. Another instance being when you recruit Yuffie right after the Nibelheim flashback. She has a Sneak Glove by default. That sells for 100,000 gil. And the next instance is morphing Jenova Birth into a Stardust. That also sells for 50,000. So you EASILY have the option of making a butt load of gil even before finishing Disc 1. That's plenty of gil to work with during that time in the playthrough since not a lot of items in shops are that expensive yet.
One other thing I wanted to mention that kinda links with gil farming is the W-Item materia. Because of the stardust item I mentioned earlier, you can get W-Item pretty much right at the beginning of disc 2 and completely eliminate the need for gil farming for the rest of the game. Reason being is because you can morph the razor weeds outside of Wutai into Sylkis Greens right after the events in rocket town. Then, once you loot the chest in Gaia's Cliff for the stardust, just do the W-item glitch and make over 4mil gil each time. So with that being said, is it possible to move the W-item material to somewhere like a post game location instead of right when you get to the great glacier? This could help with balancing the zero gil situation on hard mode by tweaking some of the things you mentioned earlier. Possibly??? What are your thoughts on this?
Risk Ring... Makes sense there because I remember the Slow status effect making buffs like barriers last longer. But is it possible to make it to where slow doesn't do that? Or is that a difficult thing to implement?
Tifa... I still feel that instant death effects should still kill off Tifa even if she still has her Grit available. Because currently this kinda defeats the purpose of equipping any armor of accessories that protect against them since Tifa can always naturally negate it once per battle. Everything else in the game is fine, but personally I just feel that instant death effects should bypass grit.
Gil... I had a feeling that hard mode was a bit tough to balance. During my multiple playthroughs, I've noticed that you don't need to farm for gil at all because right in the very beginning of the game, if cloud gets picked by Don Corneo in Wall Market, you get awarded a Cats Bell, which sells for 50,000 gil. Another instance being when you recruit Yuffie right after the Nibelheim flashback. She has a Sneak Glove by default. That sells for 100,000 gil. And the next instance is morphing Jenova Birth into a Stardust. That also sells for 50,000. So you EASILY have the option of making a butt load of gil even before finishing Disc 1. That's plenty of gil to work with during that time in the playthrough since not a lot of items in shops are that expensive yet.
One other thing I wanted to mention that kinda links with gil farming is the W-Item materia. Because of the stardust item I mentioned earlier, you can get W-Item pretty much right at the beginning of disc 2 and completely eliminate the need for gil farming for the rest of the game. Reason being is because you can morph the razor weeds outside of Wutai into Sylkis Greens right after the events in rocket town. Then, once you loot the chest in Gaia's Cliff for the stardust, just do the W-item glitch and make over 4mil gil each time. So with that being said, is it possible to move the W-item material to somewhere like a post game location instead of right when you get to the great glacier? This could help with balancing the zero gil situation on hard mode by tweaking some of the things you mentioned earlier. Possibly??? What are your thoughts on this?
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Skykitsune
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Little bug report, tried searching to see if it was already reported, but no luck so far.
The 1/35 soldier in Nibelheim can be duped by just leaving and re-entering the room.
I'm on Path B, 2.099994, with Barret and Aeris if that changes anything. You can immediately go to the mines for the reward, too.
The 1/35 soldier in Nibelheim can be duped by just leaving and re-entering the room.
I'm on Path B, 2.099994, with Barret and Aeris if that changes anything. You can immediately go to the mines for the reward, too.
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Kitaka
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Sorry to bother you again, but regarding the model change, I've got a few further questions (managed to replace the Murasame model with the Masamune).
I'm currently using a sort of "submod" for New Threat 2.0, which features a bunch of kernel edits, and I'd like the battle.lgp file to be foldered in there. Though it doesn't seem to work without some tinkering I'm unaware of.
I've tried adding the file via 2 folder structures. First I've tried battle/battle.lgp, second I've tried data/battle/battle.lgp. Since these two didn't work, I've made a backup of the vanilla file and added my modified file into the game folder.
I assume I would need to edit the mod.xml file somehow, to have the submod's file overwrite the vanilla one.
Also, I wonder if it's possible to add another playable character that you could recruit. I though of trying to have one of the Sephiroth clones join the roster (which would functionally pretty much just be Sephiroth) at about the end of the second disc, with custom level curve, stats, etc... I know there are a few mods (such as NT) that let you have Jesse as temporary party character (probably via some hacky solution, which ofc wouldn't apply for my use case, since Sephiroth has a field model, full-fledged in-battle model with all necessary animations, etc).
Sorry again for asking all of this basic stuff, I've just hit a dead end with the search function on this forum. There might be some sort of comprehensive tutorials for modding the game, but for the life of me, I can't find much.
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wdx
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can morph the kyuvilduns mnt nibelheim instead of the razer weeds as alternative option for the stylkis greens.
I've managed a couple of playthroughs on typeB, Hard, noExP enabled without having to resort to witem duplication methods. around 2 years ago i streamed a playthrough and had asked to remove the witem glitch, segachief at that point of time prefered players to be able to freely experiment with items. There is a fix for witem glitch available. pretty sure petfriendlyamy (the person whom released the awesome scarlet utility) had fixed the glitch for one of her mods. to be fair the
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Final_Figue
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Hello Sega Chief.
I have some suggestions and reports, here there are:
Inside the Highwind there is a store that offers to buy armors:
But there isn´t any armor to buy, here is the list:
In this battle you can get two Ragnaroks:
* The same happen with the flying enemy in the train: You can get two oritsurus.
I suggest to enable a jump in this part:
I suggest to use every entrance inside the temple to have more battles and treasures:
And that´s all, I hope that you continue working on this mod and thank you again for share your effort.
I have some suggestions and reports, here there are:
Inside the Highwind there is a store that offers to buy armors:
But there isn´t any armor to buy, here is the list:
In this battle you can get two Ragnaroks:
* The same happen with the flying enemy in the train: You can get two oritsurus.
I suggest to enable a jump in this part:
I suggest to use every entrance inside the temple to have more battles and treasures:
And that´s all, I hope that you continue working on this mod and thank you again for share your effort.
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Sega Chief
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I've added some spreadsheets made by a user called Lumii which documents the equipment, materia, and secrets in a lot more detail; these can be found in the 2.0 Documentation download (the documentation folder contained within the installers doesn't contain these files yet).
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Dr Schlaylee
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Hello! I recently started to play New Threat mod and loving it so far! I haven't had any issue with the game at all so far except for the Omega and Shinryu fight ((Great fight btw)) For some reason mid way through the fight usually when one of them dies ((Usually Shinryu)) My game crashes and I was looking for some help cause I would love some KOTR for trying to do Emerald and Ruby and more! Im playing it through 7th Heaven and don't have any extra mods or anything on. Cause Ill be honest I am kinda dumb when it comes to that kinda thing and didn't wanna break it. Oh and another question. Is there any way to cure Zombie? I was looking through everything in the Documentation and I haven't found anything.
Update I think I found the issue. I didn't have Cloud as the leader of the party I was running around as Cid. Put Cloud back and didn't crash but an answer about Zombie would help lol
Update I think I found the issue. I didn't have Cloud as the leader of the party I was running around as Cid. Put Cloud back and didn't crash but an answer about Zombie would help lol
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wdx
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there used to be a method to cure zombie status
which was goblinsong (was way way way too op cost of 0mp too).I was able to do the fight with both tifa and cid as party leader (whilst cloud was 'missing in action') through the normal party leader forced tifa/cid as leader.
perhaps take out omega first imprisoned only lasts 5atbs or so) so you'd get that party member back and just keep hp topped up. playing with status effects will also help that battle.
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greaver75
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hi guys, hoping someone can help. I'm finding some Materia's missing from the locations listed. it says in txt file an elemental Materia is on Red initial, Red had no materia on my play through with this mod so also missing enemy skill. also Hydro is missing from junion doc.
any ideas what could be occurring.
this mod is amazing btw really makes it a fresh play through!. thanks for the hard work
any ideas what could be occurring.
this mod is amazing btw really makes it a fresh play through!. thanks for the hard work
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