[FF7PC-98] The Reunion (OLD THREAD, SAVED FOR POSTERITY)

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I agree with the comments. 'Where I left off' gives a different feeling to at least American readers - like they took a break in their journey there and then returned there rather than being where they are originally from - Going with the hometown theory rather than just a stop on the road one. Assuming it's where he's from is, as you stated, what is implied so I'd go with the 'the place I left behind' thing, definitely. For one, a nitpicker could argue that doesn't mean it is his hometown and it feels clearer.

EDIT: ...I have no idea how my fingers typed 'fun' instead of 'from' but it is now fixed. You'd think I was using a smartphone with autocorrect. XD
 
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Damn. What a nightmare translating a game is! Just one sentence can be so tricky!!!

Hmm. Personally I think the "where I left off" bit is a real mouthful. Unfortunately I can't think of another way to getting across the information without drastically rewriting it.
 
It's been fixed already.  8)  And this is also why I don't take requests on the dialogue because we'd be here until next decade.  Covarr will give me some fixes and after that I will only take recommendations, here and there.
 
Our first 100% completed map is done (The Beginner's Hall).  Covarr has checked it, it's been updated, and now the rest of the maps to go!  :-P
 
Hi DLPB,
Im really looking forward to your retranslation.
When I played FF7 when it came out I had a really hard time following the story
because many sentences just didnt make much sense.
I hope when your project is done that will change.  ;)

I guess what I want to say is that I appreciate your effort very much.
Cant wait to see the final result.
 
Right that's it/  I'm done.  My job is finished.  It's all down to Lex and Covarr now.  I may at some point go through game again to position windows fast (most not all of them), but in terms of dialogue revisions (I did 4 complete revisions including a walk through of the game, and 3 revisions extra on Midgar), this is now 100% complete.  ;D

Now yes, that really is the end.  I am not going through these files anymore.  What is here is largely here for good.  It will stand or fall based on it.  When released, I will accept recommendations from people for 1 month.  Then it will be finalised.  After that I will only accept recommendations from Japanese speakers who have a problem with any inaccuracy.

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Zack“Yo! Old guy! We at Midgar yet?”------------------------------“Shaddap! You're lucky I even gave you a ride!”------------------------------Zack“What're you gonna do once we get to Midgar?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…”------------------------------Zack“I know what I'm gonna do.”------------------------------Zack“I got a place I can crash for a while…”------------------------------Zack“No wait, the mother lives there too.”------------------------------Zack“Guess that's out.”------------------------------Zack“Yep…gotta change my plans!”------------------------------Zack“Hmm…”{NEW}“No matter what I do, I need some money first…”------------------------------Zack“…Hey, wanna start a business? Now what could we do?”
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Zax“Hey! Old man!  We at Midgar yet?”------------------------------“Shaddap!  You're lucky I even  gave you a ride!”------------------------------Zax“What're you gonna do  once we get to Midgar?”------------------------------{CLOUD}“…”------------------------------Zax“I've got an idea.”------------------------------Zax“I can pull a few favours…”------------------------------Zax“Oh wait,those girls still  live with their parents.”------------------------------Zax“…Guess that's out.”------------------------------Zax“Yep,change of plan!”------------------------------Zax“Hmm…”{NEW}“No matter what I do,  I'll be needing some  money first…”------------------------------Zax“Maybe I should start a business.”
 
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Zax“Oh wait,those girls still  live with their parents.”
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I know singular versus plural isn't always obvious in Japanese, so: don't you think he's talking about Aerith here? She was his girlfriend and still lived (lives) with her (adoptive) mum, after all. If so, maybe the following? (was Aerith's foster father still alive at this point?)
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Zax“Oh wait,that girl still  lives with her parents.”
 
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Didn't actually occur to me that Aerith would be among them, but it's 100% plural. I think the idea is that although Aerith fell for him but at the end of the day he was a bit of a playboy.

「あ、どの女の子も
　親といっしょに
　住んでるのか……」
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That said the nuance is closer to "Every one of those girls still lives with her parents", as it is now it could also mean a bunch of sisters living under one roof.
 
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Aerith never met Elmina's husband anyway.  He was sent off to Wutai and she met Aerith at the station waiting for his return.  He died before he could return.  Aerith then explains to Elmina that her husband has already returned to the planet.   Elmina lived alone with Aerith.

However, thinking about it "Live with their parents"  does not have to mean "both parents"  it is how people speak when addressing numerous people.  So it is still possible she is included in it.  But I am unsure when Zax met Aerith... 

I have always been confused by the Zax/Cloud chronology.  Is this how it is:

1.  Cloud goes to Join Soldier, but doesn't make it and ends up an ordinary soldier
2. Is assigned to the mission at Niblheim with Soldier Zax
3. Both capured by Hojo and experimented on (irradiated with Mako/Jenova)?  Or did this come before / after
4. Escaped and travelled to Midgar
5. Zax shot dead, Cloud takes Buster Sword and is found by Tifa

Anyone got the complete and accurate list of what happens with year times?
 
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It's all down to Lex and Covarr now.
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I'll try to power through as much as I can over the weekend. Depending on how much time I have, I may be able to get some done after work on weekdays, as well. I'm not sure how much there is total, but I think I can get my end of things done fairly quickly.
 
Hojo experimented on them when it was thought Sephiroth died when Cloud grabbed his sword lifted him and swung him over the rail into the Mako pit.  Cloud fell unconscious and he along with Zack/Zax was taken away to the manshion.  Then Zax/Zack finally got a plan to escape sometime after he came through and the process was some what completed.
 
Yeah but what happened then?  Was Zax shot in Midgar right after that? 

Was Cloud made into the problem he was by Hojo using the jenova cells on him in the mansion?  before that he was a normal boy?
 
It's kind of sad to hear that not even DLPB knows the answers to questions like this... If he doesn't, who does??? :(
 
Yeah it's very complicated.  There are parts of that chronology that are hard to understand.  Especially the times.  Best we get this out of the way once and for all.  It is practically the only thing I don't understand in FF7  :-D  It's the lack of exposition that does it.  FF7 does not do a good job of wrapping up the loose ends for the player.  Deliberately or otherwise.
 
Yes Cloud was normal before Sephiroth's supposed death and Zax was shot on the hill over looking Midgar.  Cloud was practicing with swords however as was hinted in before crisis (I believe that was the phone game only released in Japan).  I hope I answered you question good enough to fill in the holes for you.  Excellent job on the mod and glad you kept up with it.  By the way when I was reading the b**ches and gripes people where giving I couldn't help but lol in agreement when you stated how stupid it was.
 
So run down the chronology as you see it?

Remember Cloud meets Tifa at the station 7 years ago, and Niblheim burned down 5 years ago?  So what's going on there?  She talks about how his story didnt add up then... but that would have been before the experiments?

{TIFA}
“How long has it been?”
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{CLOUD}
“Five years.”
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{TIFA}
“…”
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{CLOUD}
“What's wrong?”
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{TIFA}
“It's been a REALLY long time.”
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{TIFA}
“Actually,it had
  been seven years.”
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{TIFA}
“You joined Soldier,
  just like you wanted.”{NEW}
“Then quit after the
  Sephiroth incident…”{NEW}
“…and became a
  Jack of all trades.”

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{TIFA}
“Zax,Soldier…”
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Old Man
“Young lady,do you know him?”
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Old Woman
“He wrote to us six or seven years
  ago,saying he had a girlfriend.
  Could that have been you?”
 
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If I remember correctly Zack and Cloud spent 4 years in the basement of the Shinra mansion while being experimented by Hojo and then 9 months to reach Midgar, where Zack was shot. Cloud tells Tifa that 5 years passed because 4y and 9m is the time passed since their reunion in Midgar but she doesn't remember cause he was the infantryman, while he thinks she should, having replaced himself with Zack in his mind
 
^ but I'll post this anyway as mine I think is a little more indepth.
Tifa met Cloud shortly after Zax got shot and Cloud went into Midgar alone having his mind tampered with by Sephiroth.  When they finally meet again Tifa didn't know that Cloud was in the normal infantry uniform.  Thanks to Sephiroth though he thinks he is Zax and he met her again five years ago.  However it was actually seven years to Tifa as the last time she has seen him is most likely after he left for the city.  If I missed anything or I need to say it differently let me know.
 
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