[FF7PC] ChaOS -Character Overhaul Seven

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I am uploading an English version of Kaldarasha's Reworked flevel that is packed along with his latest ModManager Unshaded Models release. Will need some testing, then I will attempt to release versions in Spanish, French and Italian. Since I only speak English this may be difficult (but probably not since ToughScript does all the work)!

Most of these error messages are harmless, but im concerned about the one in md7.
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blin67_2 patch failed, not original scriptchrin_2 patch failed, not original scriptcosin1_1 patch failed, not original scriptealin_2 patch failed, not original scriptelmin4_2 patch failed, not original scriptelminn_1 patch failed, not original scriptfrcyo patch failed, not original scriptfship_4 patch failed, not original scriptgames_2 patch failed, not original scriptgongaga patch failed, not original scriptgoson patch failed, not original scriptkuro_4 patch failed, not original scriptlastmap patch failed, not original scriptError in mds7: Incorrect number of entries: 74/73min51_1 patch failed, not original scriptpsdun_2 patch failed, not original script

Anybody know if that's OK or not? I guess I'll go test that scene but it may not be right this minute.

Anyway, please back up your flevel.lgp file and replace it with this one to test (it needs to be compiled with ulgp). You need a full install of his latest UMC. It should give you slightly bigger field models more like the PSX as well as a corrected Aeris death scene and some other goodies. Obviously this flevel, it is not compatible with Aeris Revival. Not yet, anyway.

 

[Kaldarasha]

I believe it's a good idea to put the battle animation files into the New Animation package as well. This would fix/prevent any problem with other models which have problems with wrong animations, as long it's loaded first.

So far there is one thing I noticed though, on Barrets field model the gun isn't straight. When he moves it'll show holes right now. Simple fix though, just needs to be rotated +5 on the Y.

The new idle animation has a different 'arm to hand' angle, I have fixed both the model and the animation.
However you should use the mod manager. It's pretty easy to use and it contains some bonuses. More user of it, means more feedback to Iros.

 

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Dang the file I have uploaded is working fine after encoding English text to your flevel, Kaldarasha... but when I save games they come up in German. Anyway to fix that easily?

 

[cmh175]

What bonuses come with the manager? Do the files in the wrapper package include anything that wasn't in the unwrapped file? I started with a fresh install and bootleg run, using the bootleg base model option, then installed the unshaded models. The only thing I left out was the base model file since it's basically the same thing bootleg already installed. So otherwise it should be a full package installation. I like the idea of a model manager that you can swap out models with without reinstalling all the other game components but I'm iffy actually running the game through another application. Plus I'm not sure how it works with the 2012 version. If I launch the game using the ff7.exe instead of bootloader the only changes it'll show are the character models. The background, sound, and everything else only work with bootloader.

The new battle animation (rtda) will work with the classic model, TA, and the fmv model. The classic needs small adjustments to the left hand, but otherwise looks great. Taller models with altered skeletons don't work as well. The legs and lower chest look ok, but the sword is too low and the shoulders don't line up with the chest.

 

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Plus I'm not sure how it works with the 2012 version. If I launch the game using the ff7.exe instead of bootloader the only changes it'll show are the character models. The background, sound, and everything else only work with bootloader.

Eh? This is not my experience at all.

 

[cmh175]

Eh? This is not my experience at all.

You mean when you actually use the game exe, with the square enix menu and everything? Weird, well either way that's what it does for me so using bootloader in some way is necessary. Otherwise it's just like the Steam version right now.


So I'm confused about Barret, has the animation been fixed or is it supposed to be? The wrapped unpacked post hasn't been updated so it's still the same. You're right, it's the idle animation, because with the fix I did his gun is now crooked when he walks and runs.

 

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You mean when you actually use the game exe, with the square enix menu and everything? Weird, well either way that's what it does for me so using bootloader in some way is necessary. Otherwise it's just like the Steam version right now.

After bootleg runs on the 2012 versions, there will be a regular old ff7.exe placed in your game directory. Use that, the launcher is now useless.

 

[cmh175]

I tried that. Asked about game disks. It hasn't been a problem since I don't care about achievements and cloud saving. Plus I like being able to use debug options in the bootloader for troubleshooting.

I'm fixing the idle animation by the way. I can upload it when I'm done.

 

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I tried that before posting. Asked about game disks. It hasn't been a problem since I don't care out achievements and cloud saving.

I think we're getting our telephone wires crossed. I don't care about those either, and after bootleg they don't work. There's about 1 gig worth of files you can delete after bootleg because they were for the rerelease and aren't needed.

 

[cmh175]

They might if I use the ff7launcher exe. Seems to load the game like nothing's changed. It'll have anything I put in the lgp files, but none of the extra mods. I'm not too concerned about that though, although I probably cant use the new mod manager till it's able to lgp the models.

So is there any difference between the unwrapped package and the new model manager package? Also how about the flevel you're translating? Is that any different than mine after adding the flevel files to it and recompiling it?

I fixed Barrets idle animation. Damn, 100 frames just to have him stand still and breath lol. Animation is much harder work than modeling. The new battle animation you guys did seems even more impressive after just correcting his arm 100 times for him to stand still.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/lq84xccd4cwhv82/adcb.a

 

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New version of the EnglishReworked flevel from Kaldarasha

Makes the character models larger and does some cool transparency stuff as well as fixing Aeris Death scene. Pretty much same as last version but compiled text without Aeris Revival installed just in case.

Tested issue with German save games again, and it has magically solved itself! Love it when that happens.

 

[ProtoX]

You guys rely too much on lusky's tools. I get no problems  by using alai's lgp/unlgp which relys on cmd.exe command promt. I may use old school ff7 tools but they work better then luskys.

 

[Kaldarasha]

@cmh175
There are some things I can't do without the mod manager. Like swapping a battle model in game.
I haven't used much this ability, but there are some things I would like to do.
The only new of the base mod is, that I prelighted the textured vehicles on the world map.

If I launch the game using the ff7.exe instead of bootloader the only changes it'll show are the character models.

There must be another FF7.exe, which bootleg loads. I had read an post from Vgr, who's talking about different moded FF7 installments in one. I believe the exe and certain other files needed to be copied and renamed.

Bootleg is a good start for those, who moding ff7 the first time. But if you are knew what you are doing, you better run without it. I hope the Bootleg as we knew it, will be replaced through the mod manager. Why? Because it is easier to maintain through the moder and the mod manager developer. This means on the other hand no more waiting for a next release of bootleg to get new models and fixes. But it's a long way until this will happen.

I fixed Barrets idle animation. Damn, 100 frames just to have him stand still and breath lol. Animation is much harder work than modeling. The new battle animation you guys did seems even more impressive after just correcting his arm 100 times for him to stand still.

There is a propagate frame option. Check it and every frame after the one you edit will have the new angle. Safes often time, but it's easy to forget, that it's on.

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I need to update the flevel to enable the the transparency in the temple for the rest of the characters.

 

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I need to update the flevel to enable the the transparency in the temple for the rest of the characters.

I'm not willing to spoil it, but I want to point out that this scene is really awesome the way he set it up in the Reworked flevel. Someone unfamiliar and epic makes an appearance.

There are some issues with character placement that I'm interested in before going through the trouble of translating the flevel (with Luksy's ToughScript) to 3 more languages. I checked out the scene where the Sephiroth "sack" drops and Hojo is kinda hopping around like the animations have been affected by his size adjustment.

 

[DLPB_]

You guys rely too much on lusky's tools. I get no problems  by using alai's lgp/unlgp which relys on cmd.exe command promt. I may use old school ff7 tools but they work better then luskys.

Aali's ulgp has a few bugs in it... luksy's does not.  It's an update for Aali's lgp and I've had no issues with it at all. Also, luksy's is both a cmd and a main util.  You can use the exe from the command line, or click on it to get GUI.

 

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Aali's ulgp has a few bugs in it... luksy's does not.  It's an update for Aali's lgp and I've had no issues with it at all. Also, luksy's is both a cmd and a main util.  You can use the exe from the command line, or click on it to get GUI.

You're killing me Dan... I'm like following you around agreeing with your posts right now.

I like uLGP .7 by Luksy

It's very important to encode to a brand new lgp file when using uLGP .7 because it will NOT overwrite files in an already existing lgp file. So, for example:
 

Here I've manually typed in the destination lgp file to be encoded as C:\battle.lgp
Notice there isn't a file there that exists already.

Here the file has been encoded and appears in the C: directory, ready to be moved to the correct game data folder

And here I've replaced the original battle.lgp (notice I've renamed it battleBACKUP.lgp at the top of the list) with the newly encoded file.

 

[cmh175]

There is a propagate frame option. Check it and every frame after the one you edit will have the new angle. Safes often time, but it's easy to forget, that it's on.

I thought of that but that sounds like it copies the frame to all the others right? Wouldn't that cause him to stand absolutely still, removing the animation of him breathing? Or would it just alter the position of his arm? I'll feel silly if so.

I agree strictly using bootleg is good for brand new users just starting out. I actually just use it now to install all the extra mods, I don't use any of the bootleg character models. I like the bootloader though since I can also adjust the resolution and shading options, not to mention the debug tools. Does the new manager have these features too? I do actually use aalis lgp tool, I'm not even sure which one is Luskys. It maybe more difficult for newbies so a mod manager is a great idea, but I make changes to the lgp files all the time so I'm used to it.

I'm not willing to spoil it, but I want to point out that this scene is really awesome the way he set it up in the Reworked flevel. Someone unfamiliar and epic makes an appearance.

There are some issues with character placement that I'm interested in before going through the trouble of translating the flevel (with Luksy's ToughScript) to 3 more languages. I checked out the scene where the Sephiroth "sack" drops and Hojo is kinda hopping around like the animations have been affected by his size adjustment.

Is this strictly in the flevel.lgp in the wrapper package (that said "my flevel") or is this also included in the flevel folder in the unwrapped package? If not let me know when the English version is ready, or if you need any beta testers. Also if it's a whole flevel.lgp to over write the current one does it include the Vincent animation fix at Aeris death scene? The flevel folder in the unwrapped didn't so I had to add it.

 

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I thought of that but that sounds like it copies the frame to all the others right? Wouldn't that cause him to stand absolutely still, removing the animation of him breathing? Or would it just alter the position of his arm? I'll feel silly if so.

Well, don't feel bad. I had the exact same experience. Started working on Cloud, sent Kaldarasha some files, and he could tell I wasn't using it. It does actually fix the remaining frames according to your changes, while maintaining the animations movement, but it's important to use it only on frame 0, so none of the frames "tick" (Kald says frame 0 isn't even actually used in the game... weird huh?)

Is this strictly in the flevel.lgp in the wrapper package (that said "my flevel") or is this also included in the flevel folder in the unwrapped package? If not let me know when the English version is ready, or if you need any beta testers. Also if it's a whole flevel.lgp to over write the current one does it include the Vincent animation fix at Aeris death scene? The flevel folder in the unwrapped didn't so I had to add it.

Kaldarasha did not include the Reworked flevel in the unwrapped package. I need to make a new version, which is what I'm off to do now. I was using the previous version of ToughScript, which DLPB has recently pointed out on the ToughScript thread.

 

[cmh175]

I don't really know the difference between the two. All I know is aalis does what I need it to and hasn't failed on me yet. I work in IT though so I'm pretty used to the different cmd lines.

Well, don't feel bad. I had the exact same experience. Started working on Cloud, sent Kaldarasha some files, and he could tell I wasn't using it. It does actually fix the remaining frames according to your changes, while maintaining the animations movement, but it's important to use it only on frame 0, so none of the frames "tick" (Kald says frame 0 isn't even actually used in the game... weird huh?)

Oh, well awesome than. I wasn't sure if it would do that or not so that's cool. Kimera's even better than I thought. That simplifies the hell out of animation editing.

Kaldarasha did not include the Reworked flevel in the unwrapped package. I need to make a new version, which is what I'm off to do now. I was using the previous version of ToughScript, which DLPB has recently pointed out on the ToughScript thread.

Oh ok cool. Let me know if you need help testing or anything.

 

[Kaldarasha]

The biggest improvement of my flevel.lgp are the new model sizes. Most times they are bigger.
There are some fixes I have done, the animations are fixed and there shouldn't be a second buster sword when Cloud is crawling to Zack (if you are using Cloud with buster sword equipped). And at last I implement a model for young Cloud.