FF8 Patch for FF7 & Seifer/GFs Patches

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I'm starting a new project, a mod for FF7. This mod consist in replacing the characters of FF7 by the ones of FF8. It's like that :

Cloud > Squall
Barret > Laguna
Tifa > Zell
Aerith > Selphie
Nanaki > Angelo
Yuffie > Rinoa
Caith Sith > Moomba
Vincent > Irvine
Cid > Ward
Sephiroth > Seifer
Young Cloud > Squall in flashbacks

EDIT : Enemies :
MP > Galbadian
Grunt > Elite-T
Ideas?

So, with enough luck and help... no, I mean more than enough, a lot. The Alpha version may be ready for end January. Screens will come ASAP. If some of you folks who knows a lot about modding, if you can help me in converting and changing things out of FF7/FF8, it would me helpful. You can tell me if you want some of the characters being replaced by other ones, I could do it.

Oh, sorry for my English, it's still my second language, after French.

Pour tous ceux qui parlent le français, voici le topic équivalent en français (Note : FFFF = Vgr255) : http://ff7.fr/forum/index.php?page=post&ids=205466&pg=0#205468
 
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ripping from other games is illegal here, but i do believe if you make custom characters for it they may not mind i don't know exactly though you would have to ask them i guess....
 
I know ripping things from other games is illegal, but I ask here and can post pictures as long as I don't post my mod here. I will post it on my other topic on FF7.FR and you just have to go there. Also, just PM for small things like that ;)
 
Hum, ok, then I just ask you to help me importing these damn files from the decompiled FF8 files from the Data folder. If I know how to do that, I may not post at all anymore here.

EDIT : Is there a program which can view all of FF8's textures? It's the only way for me to replace the files in FF7.
 
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3) Also, the discussion of reinsertion of custom game models/backgrounds are going to be strongly curtailed.
It will not be banned, but if your mod requires taking from other things not yours, you may be asked to cut it out. For now, I'm allowing the cosmetic upgrade of existing assets, for example, resolution, and texture updates. Also the recreation of higher resolution art/models are getting a pass.

I believe your mod will break this rule. So I politely ask you to 'cut it out.' If you wish to continue this mod please do so on the other forum you linked to.
 
General question:
Can you take the basic bone structure and whatever from ff8 models, modify them and re-texture them? It's essentially skipping the part of just looking at the ff8 model, and redoing it the same way it is in ff8 yourself. the difference would be minuscule. Is that also breaking the rules?
 
You could modify the ff7 bones to look like the ff8 ones. And create new models and texture them and then insert them into the game.
 
That doesn't answer my question of using the existing ff8 models as 'basis' to re-texture/create new ones
 
Actually it does. You can use whatever you want as a reference from ff8, but you may not use any files from ff8 itself. Whole or in part.
 
Back in the day, I remember I made some models for FF7 that looked like the FF8 Characters. I used parts that were already in FF7 to do it. I finished Rinoa (Tifa), Quistis (Aeris) and Selphie (Yuffie).

I wonder if I still have them somewhere, or if they suffered the fate of my Crisis Core stuff :/

...I've done waaay to much with FF7 :P
 
Actually it does. You can use whatever you want as a reference from ff8, but you may not use any files from ff8 itself. Whole or in part.
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How would you even go about proving it's copied and not self-created if someone just looks at the ff8 models and recreates them for ff7
He would by all means re-create them exactly like they are in ff8, with or without copying stuff. am I not right?
 
Actually it does. You can use whatever you want as a reference from ff8, but you may not use any files from ff8 itself. Whole or in part.
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How would you even go about proving it's copied and not self-created if someone just looks at the ff8 models and recreates them for ff7
He would by all means re-create them exactly like they are in ff8, with or without copying stuff. am I not right?
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Are you being intentionally difficult? Suffice to say if I cannot figure out if parts have been copied (unlikely) there are many other members on this forum that are much better then me at that sort of thing. One of them being halkun, who wrote that rule.
 
No, I'm not being intentionally difficult, it's just that re-creating models of another game in a way that it makes it near impossible to prove if it was re-created in the same image or simply copied sounds like a grey zone with the current rules. And I was not refering to you in particular in that earlier post. Even haikun is not all-seeing
For example, to look at the ff8 model at one screen and point by point recreate them on another would result in something that looks like an exact copy yet it is not if you actually created it yourself. Thats what I was asking.
 
For example, to look at the ff8 model at one screen and point by point recreate them on another would result in something that looks like an exact copy yet it is not if you actually created it yourself. Thats what I was asking.
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Well, apz was accused of stealing for his model because part of the texture was clearly taken from Dissidia or something like that. I suppose if by looking at the data and texture that one can tell it wasn't created by a converter, then it's OK.
 
Making a model with textures and meshes that look like the original will not look anything like them when broken down and looked at using different tools. UV Maps will be different, textures will be different. Polys will be off in size. Not to mention if someone was to remake the ff8 chars, why would they not use higher resolution textures?
 
Not to mention if someone was to remake the ff8 chars, why would they not use higher resolution textures?
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i was thinking of doing that as practice for my modeling and texturing haha planning on making a gunblade to start off easy since the textures wouldn't be as hard to make rather than a model of a character such as squall.
 
Yo everybody, my project cannot go any further because I don't find a program which can view/convert .mch files, which are the characters' textures. If I could do it, my project can advance. If I couldn't, then it's stopped. I also came with a new idea. For you who played FF7 and modded it, you should remember that there's a patch to make Sephiroth instead of Cloud and Vice-Versa, so I could do it... for Squall and Seifer. I also plan on making new GFs or, at least, new skins :P From now on, I think that I don't rip models from other games, as if I ask for a program or another, it can be for that FF8 project :P If you don't understand me, then it's normal, I never know how to explain some things :P
 
Sorry double-posting, but thanks to ZL325 for the PM, but this doesn't work for the mch files. I did :
- Search across the net to find a good program
- Read all 139 pages of the project forum to find something valuable.

I finally came to that conclusion : If someone (a programmer, of course...) could take RINOA's source code and make another program to view/extract/convert mch files, I would be really glad. This is the only thing that I don't have and need to mod FF8. As soon as someone do it, I would be able to mod FF8 ALOT. But for now, it isn't the case...
 
I finally came to that conclusion : If someone (a programmer, of course...) could take RINOA's source code and make another program to view/extract/convert mch files, I would be really glad.
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Koral never released the source code for RINOA, so that's not possible. Any program for that will have to be coded from scratch.

Also, I think you searched through the wrong forum. Most research on model formats goes on in the Tech-Related Discussion forum. Where did you think the information used to make such programs came from?
 
Also, I think you searched through the wrong forum. Most research on model formats goes on in the Tech-Related Discussion forum. Where did you think the information used to make such programs came from?
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Hum yeah. You're right. I'm gonna do it right now. Thanks all for your support ;)
 
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