[FF9]2016 release

[Meru]

Fixing size value in header works wonderfully too. And it is super obvious which value is that. As I said if you don't know what are you doing, better leave it to someone else (or at least keep it out of this thread)

 

[dclem]

How can audio length not matter, yet size does?
I've replaced sounds that were smaller than the original, and yet two things will happen:
1. It still won't play in game.
2. It plays in game, but random crashes will occur. --causing other sfxs to not play resulting in crash.

the size of the akb header is no bigger than 304 bytes.
It would be easier to reverse the engine's sound system and remove this "size, akb header" requirement.

and btw, get off that BS would you.

 

[Fraggoso]

You don't have a clue about the unity container and containers as a whole so you?
Some games needs a 1:1 match so everything runs as intended and it doesn't seem to be the case as meru mentioned.

 

[dclem]

Actually I do, is a lightweight, extensible dependency injection container It facilitates building loosely coupled applications and provides developers with the following advantages: Simplified object creation, especially for hierarchical object structures and dependencies.

So if FFIX sound effects don't need a 1:1 match what is meru tryin' to say?!

 

[Fraggoso]

Actually I do, is a lightweight, extensible dependency injection container It facilitates building loosely coupled applications and provides developers with the following advantages: Simplified object creation, especially for hierarchical object structures and dependencies.

So if FFIX sound effects don't need a 1:1 match what is meru tryin' to say?!

Really...?
https://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/dd203101.aspx

Meru said everything you need! >.<

 

[the_randomizer85]

Do you two really need to be debating over this?

 

[dclem]

Okay, you got me, I summarized that description

okay, so here:

this is the "sfx" from the original steam game:

se000002.akb.txt:

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And here's my replacement sfx:

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Now tell me, what's the difference between these two that'll cause for these "random crashes" and or not playing in game?

 

[Meru]

How can audio length not matter, yet size does?

I don't understand the question. The two are totally unrelated things. And I already said why it matters.

1. It still won't play in game.
2. It plays in game, but random crashes will occur. --causing other sfxs to not play resulting in crash.

I dunno. Exact same symptoms commonly occur if you just deleted the old bytes and pasted new bytes. Also could be that audio stream can not be decoded by the engine.

So if FFIX sound effects don't need a 1:1 match what is meru tryin' to say?!

Not at all. I played FFIX long ago and already forgot how things sound. So I only discovered that magic sounds differently after youtube videos were posted in this thread. If the difference comes from audio files then I find it reasonable to try to replace them (But personally I am fine with sound as is).

Okay, you got me, I summarized that description

These code sections are useless. That's not a brightest idea to post bytes as text. But as I said above you must modify AKB header to do a correct replacement and it is very obvious how it must be changed (it must be done for every file). If you feel like modifying the engine to remove the header, please feel free to do so. No one is going to do it for you cause it is way harder than changing the headers (and have a high chance of making this mod incompatible with other mods). If you are interested in what my audio stream looks like, I provided that info already. But I think that any vorbis stream with similar characteristics will work.

And what I say is not BS. You started the project and now you want someone else to do it for you. There is nothing wrong in admitting that it turned out to be not something you can handle, but pretending that you know what are you doing and posting various info that clearly shows you don't is BS. You are writing a poem without knowing the words.

 - You don't know the difference between length and size of an encoded stream. Most likely you use some newbie-oriented audio encoding solution that does not distinguish between the two.
 - You are deleting and pasting, replacing bytes without taking necessary precautions or making modifications and ask why it does not work.
 - You ask questions that already have an answer.
 - You post bytes as text to demonstrate something.

Excuse me, but this level of knowledge is below "newbie".

 

[dclem]

okay, you know what, shut yo  f*ckin' ass up right now. This f*cker on my kill list now.
This international  f*cker want's the audio to remain the same, then so be it. Enjoy the disgusting sandstorm sfx and dwell you're f*cking backgrounds mod.
I'm NOT the one!

 

[Meru]

okay, you know what, shut yo  f*ckin' ass up right now. This f*cker on my kill list now.
This international  f*cker want's the audio to remain the same, then so be it. Enjoy the disgusting sandstorm sfx and dwell you're f*cking backgrounds mod.
I'm NOT the one!

I do not care if there will be such mod or no. But you are not asking for help, you are asking to teach you from scratch. If someone will do all the hard work for you, it will no longer be your project.

Also I tried to be as polite as I could an even provided some information even though I saw you through from the start. So no need to call me a "strawberry"

 

[Fraggoso]

okay, you know what, shut yo  f*ckin' ass up right now. This f*cker on my kill list now.
This international  f*cker want's the audio to remain the same, then so be it. Enjoy the disgusting sandstorm sfx and dwell you're f*cking backgrounds mod.
I'm NOT the one!

Now I know why no one replys to you if you write stuff like this.
Replacing audio is not as easy as you maybe thought so maybe it would be better for you to just let it be.

@Meru Sorry I involved you into that. It's a shame someone like him posting this.

 

[the_randomizer85]

Will you two stop your effing bickering already?

 

[Vgr]

Moderated. Please move on, thank you. -Vgr

 

[Albeoris]

The first attempt to replace sound.

Extraneous squeak in the background.
Stop when changing the scene.

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Update:
Well, now I can stream raw ogg-files.
But need to rewrite a sound engine.
Also I think that sound effects should be kept in memory, not streamed.
Will see what I can do.
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Update:
Some info about AKB2 header:
https://i.imgur.com/GnAzWBP.png

 

[Albeoris]

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Update:
Now I can load external .ogg files and make AKB2 header with LoopStart and LoopEnd tags.
Tomorrow I will try to research about 3 unknown and 4 optional entries.

 

[the_randomizer85]

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Update:
Now I can load external .ogg files and make AKB2 header with LoopStart and LoopEnd tags.
Tomorrow I will try to research about 3 unknown and 4 optional entries.

Oh wow, still, I can't help but wonder why Silicon Studios seemingly obfuscated or made the format so unorthodox. I hate when game developers do that.

 

[Fraggoso]

Hey Al here's information regarding the AKB header:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/377840/discussions/0/133258593389989239/?ctp=5

Admiral Hyouta Curtiss has gone trough all infos as far as I can see.

 

[Albeoris]

Oh, nice! Thank you very much!

 

[Fraggoso]

Oh wow, still, I can't help but wonder why Silicon Studios seemingly obfuscated or made the format so unorthodox. I hate when game developers do that.

That is pretty common in game development.

 

[Albeoris]

There is debug room!
https://i.imgur.com/auAkpFj.png