Final Fantasy 11: from highly anticipated game to junk

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10MBit is fine unless you're copying large files ... like hundreds of megs. Which is possible, of course - but for 'net sharing, it's more than OK.

We have ADSL shared in our house, via standard CAT5, but of course the 10MBit machine(s) only show problems when we're copying files internally. Personally, I could /usually/ say that wireless would be neat, since I rarely use the 100MBit bandwidth. Of course, sometimes (ie. when burning CD's) I do need that extra speed...
 
Well, I'm gonna start with two computers, and if everything looks good, I'll integrate the other two.

And, if you get dsl, the WAP may be a better way to go, you can access the dsl modem regardless of the other computer being on, plus the Linksys WAP also has a built-in hardware firewall (which means I can't host multiplayer games on this big bad 1.5Ghz!  )

Well, I thought about this before...
My computer is gonna be the internet host, and it's on all the time anyway, so that doesn't really matter :-p - Plus, if I use myself as the host, I won't be behind a firewall but the other computers will have some restricted access to the internet, to a certian excent (like being behind any other router).

Plus I don't wanna pay anymore than I have to :-p

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I don't like wireless.  It's not as secure as a wired network.  Shees, I wouldn't even think of using wireless here in my apartment.  Psshhh, WEP is like a joke and RSA can kiss my a$$.

-vvalentine
 
ViVi (vvalentine) as a good point. If I have a similar wireless hookup, I just have to get within range of your setup, then hack your password, then I'll gain access to every file in your system. I could ruin you.

In theory. I don't know how to hack a password, except through trial & error.

Personally, if I WAS to get DSL, I'd simply get a firewall/router & connect it to one of my hubs. Then my DSL would be shared with the network.  :D

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There are lots of devices that can be tweaked to intercept the frequencies of wireless connections.  Brute force hacking is probable easiest in a wireless network.  Firewalls and Routers would simply be somehow useless.

-vvalentine
 
If you set up a wireless network correctly, you haven't got a problem. Brute force hacking still takes /ages/, especially if your system is set up correctly to, say, restrict connections to one attempt per second; at that rate, it'd take centuries or more to brute force hack it...
 
If you set up a wireless network correctly, you haven't got a problem. Brute force hacking still takes /ages/, especially if your system is set up correctly to, say, restrict connections to one attempt per second; at that rate, it'd take centuries or more to brute force hack it...

Yeah, that's true.  It really does depend on how the network is setup.  However, some administrators don't seem to know about that.  Where I used to work, they had a mixed network.  One day, they got hacked, but fortunately for them they didn't have access to other computers (at least that's how it seemed).  They have an AS/400 (where all the accounts information is located) and it's protected by two routers and a firewall.  One of the managers was blaming us that one of us (trainers) may have given out the password.  The weird thing was that they only left traces that an attack (and intrusion) occured, but no trace of who did it and from where.  I don't have info of what logs they had.

-vvalentine
 
Yeah. The real problem with wireless networks is that if you set them up wrong, it's really asking for trouble. Incompetant network admins aren't so much of a problem with private wired LAN's because it's not /as/ easy for a hacker to get access to the network - with wireless it's far easier to get in.

The real solution is to get a proper admin and make sure the network's set up correctly ;)
 
wireless? bah! im currently in the process of running cat5 through my entire house :) too bad i can't just use one cable.... at one point i will have 4 cables at the same place.

as for firewalls........ ZoneAlarm :)
 
Well, like I said, If I had a choice, I'd go with the wired approach, but with my dad, it's one of those "my way or the highway" sorta things.

Oh, and Aaron: If you do plan to integrate the other two, it would be wise to switch all the computers to using "infrastructure" mode first.  It'll probably be easier for the two new ones to get settled in.

And, lastly, my dad is running a mixed network.  He's got his PII 266mhz and my sister's P1 233mhz (yep, that's my old system!) on a physical wire, but both my 1.5Ghz and dad's new laptop are using wireless.

So far, everything's working without a hitch, the laptop is using WinXP, all the others are using Win98SE.
 
Here's a big question.

I'm good friends with the guy who lives next-door to me.  I believe a wireless network would reach his house (it's not far at all) and that way, he could buy some devices and netowrk HIS house, and then we could play games and share files and stuff.  Cool.

However, we'd want all the computers in my house to get access to the internet through MY connection, and the ones in his house to get access through HIS (we both have cable, but we are using different service providers).

Is this achieved easily by changing the gateway setting in the TCP/IP setting to match the computer's IP that you want to get internet access through?  Or is their more setup involved?  (Or is it possible? Heh)
 
Probably, is all I can say without knowing more about wireless networking ;) You've got the right idea - if the computers in each house can have their house's net server as a gateway, then that should work. *Should* being the key phrase ;)
 
keep the networks separate, configure XP ICS individually, then plug in the wireless network.
 
*Drools*

Geez, we don't even have that service in my area...

FF11 won't be shipping to Malaysia, right?
 
Ive been wanting to set up a network for my two computers for a couple months.  Ive bought Cat5 cables and a Linksys hub, but I have no clue on how to set up the actual network.  All Ive been able to do is connect both of my pcs with the cat5 and play networked Unreal Tournament and Command and Conquer.  If anyone can help me or if they need any more details about my situation just ask.  One pc is ME the other 98.  I dont happen to "have in my possession at this time" the 98 disc, so if that makes a difference.....
Anyway thanks in advance to all you guys, Im planning on buying Kingdom Hearts but Im not sure about ff11.
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well..... technically speaking, you have a network :) just enable netbeui or something.
 
ok, i got about ten different definitions for it on google but no info on how to set it up!  if anyone knows of a site or can explain how to set it up please, im desperate
 
Well, if you can play games over your "network," then you obviously have a network set up.

1 - Right-click on "Network Neighboorhood" ("My Network Places" in ME) and select "Properties."  (If the icon is not present on your desktop, go to the Network control panel.)

2 - This will bring up a list of protocols and services installed on your computer.  You need to install...

 - Client for Microsoft Networks
 - AT LEAST ONE of the following protocols (I usually select all three):
* NetBEUI
* TCP/IP
* IPX
 - And the File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks service.

(Make sure to click the file/print sharing button and enable it)

Restart.

Any more questions?
 
Well, the network only works when i connect the pcs DIRECTLY through the ethernet cards, not with the hub in between.  i was running a tcp/ip connection i think (might have been ipx but im to lazy to check).
 
Well then.

If you have a working connection connecting two PCs directly with an Ethernet cable, the cable must be a crossover cable.

For it to work properly with the hub, I think you'll have to find yourself some normal cable.

Maybe this is the problem?
 
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