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Haha... my sympathies to this disappointed fellow... funny talk lol
 
Couldn't care less about this last piece of crap by Square Enix. Bye bye, Sasuke lookalike.
 
If XIII-3 is legitimate, I would suggest that anyone who has stock in SE to sell everything now.  It's clear the company will be going under in a few years with genius moves like that.
 
I think it's time for Tetsuya Nomura to wake up from his egotistical fantasy land before he, and the employees that see eye-to-eye with him run Square into the ground.

It was bad enough when he started putting belts on everything and retconned the fuck out of FF7 with the compilation, but this is just ridiculous.
 
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I think it's time for Tetsuya Nomura to wake up from his egotistical fantasy land before he, and the employees that see eye-to-eye with him run Square into the ground.

It was bad enough when he started putting belts on everything and retconned the f*ck out of FF7 with the compilation, but this is just ridiculous.
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I think part of the problem is 'fantasy' that went too far?
Well that and the entire game industry is just that, they are trying to make money and not games. This is indicative when a business will sue another for "disruption of a business model" how puerile and childish can you get?
The most important thing about a game, is the fun part, if it's not fun it's not a game. Too much has been pumped into games in terms of "content" and not enough actual game.

Bethesda Softworks puts out much better stuff at probably half the budget and half the fluff. Seriously TES IV, and V are a blast, Fallout 3 and NV ditto.

I am fairly certain part of this is pride, that and the influence of Sony on Japanese game making in general has been most negative.

I haven't seen any Sony made games really.. can anyone name one? The last I remember is Medievil 2 and Legend of Dragoon. Both of which were damn good.

I liked Altus contributions of Star Ocean 2 and 3, the 4th in the series was a bit underwhelming.

The same goes with Square's Front Mission Evolved it was OK but too goofy (and prone to screw up your controller).  I liked front mission 3/4/5 but Evolved sucked by comparison.

It's not like they've run out of stories to tell, it's they've run out of stories to exploit it feels like. Heck FF9 was better than 13. I liked FF12 by the way it was great I thought but not everyone liked it I've heard.

It seems Bethesda is contributing better games in general in terms of re-playability and fun.

NV ultimate I'm playing as well as TESV TESIv( ultra modded)  Fallout 3. I still play these after having some for 7 years. Whereas I keep forgetting I have XIII (sigh) FFXIV is another who cares.

Even Dragon Age 2 is better than 13. It was a bit short on great but still had some fun stuff in it.

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I applaud creative use of "fantasy", and Square's older titles definitely fall under that category.

As much as I love all the TES games, Skyrim and Oblivion were definitely the least creative in the series. The fact that they focused on dragons, which is one of the most

rudimentary fantasy things ever, just hurt their originality in the long run. I liked their stories much better when they focused on political issues and their creation, the

daedra - instead of dragons, which are very generic

Don't get me wrong, TES is still one of my favorite series, but with each installment they seem to have worse stories, and less RPG elements. It's why my favorite ones

are Daggerfall, and Morrowind. Those two games were brimming with creativity.
 
The Simpsons under Scully has been negatively labelled as a "gag-heavy, Homer-centric incarnation" by Jon Bonné of MSNBC, while some fans have bemoaned the transformation in Homer's character during the era, from sweet and sincere to "a boorish, self-aggrandizing oaf", dubbing him "Jerkass Homer". When asked in 2007 how the series' longevity is sustained, Scully joked, "Lower your quality standards. Once you've done that you can go on forever.
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Same thing here.  They now have the fanbase onboard (who seem to buy everything), they make a profit no matter how much lack of care is taken... and they have lowered their standards to make it easier to churn out a product.  Just like The Simpsons did.

A quick offtopic post about The Simpsons... most people think the series went into decline around season 9, but I have just finished watching 1-9 and imho the decline started after season 3.  Homer got dumber and dumber, the stories became more and more silly and "gag heavy" and the stories that once made you feel something for the characters became non existent.  It is true that things went far worse after season 9 but the coffin lid was firmly in place by season 5, just that most people didn't see it.
 
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Horrible characters in X killed it for me, the voice acting didn't help that much.
 
I thought X was good. Was it the best? Not by a long shot, but it was good. I wasn't surprised about the voice acting since it was the first time they made an entire game with voice acting. In my opinion, it also had one of the best mini games. I loved Blitzball, which is weird since I don't like sports. I do believe though, that X was the beginning of the end for Final Fantasy sadly. When they came out with X-2, it made me not like it so much that I actually lost a few good opinions about X. (And I could murder them for what they did to Blitzball!) I never played 11, but from what I heard about it, it was a good attempt for a first time at an MMO. Then when 12 came out, I lost hope. The person they tried get people to think was the "Main Character" Vaan, had no point in the story past him trying to steal the stone. Which, if they had just been in Balthiers point of view instead, the story would have continued no problem. That game was just so long, and had too many things to do. I also think that is what influenced 13 to be what it is. Very linear and with barely anything to do. 12 and 13 are on opposite ends of the spectrum I think.
 
10's characters and story weren't too great (a lot of important concepts were poorly explained, possibly thanks to a bad translation), but the actual battle mechanics were very well-refined. Characters were highly individuated and spells and statuses felt useful. The game was reasonably well-balanced for the most part and fights demanded at least some limited strategy.

12, on the other hand, was horrific. It wasn't just that the gameplay was bland and insipid - it was that the repetitive dungeons and arbitrary grinding made me feel I wasn't making any meaningful progress. And stupid stunts like the Zodiac Spear chests left a bad taste in my mouth. If it hadn't been an FF title, perhaps I'd have been more forgiving - I could easily see FFXII making a 6/10 or 7/10. But being a highly anticipated title, it cost me (and others) a lot of goodwill with Square-Enix.
 
X was a great game and last great FF.... after that with FFX-2 (the first main cash in), it was over.  It has never recovered.
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Dull cast, embarrassing story, incredibly boring battle system based on a growth system that simply doesn't exist and ends up making your characters identical in pretty much every aspect (with the exception of Yuna, she has the Summon command after all ;O ). And Nomura, oh for the love of god, NOMURA ALL OVER THE PLACE. FFX killed the series for me: so many terrible choices for just one game. No wonder the same team created XIII, another gigantic pile of flaming sh*t.
 
FFX had all the marks of final fantasy going downhill. Exploring was a joke. They might as well have gotten rid of maps and just stringed together encounters with an option to heal between every fight.

Story was bad as well. By bad I mean everything before the ending was absolutely terrible. If they had made the first 80% better storywise FFX would have been killer. Since FFX is story driven the story has to be effing amazing. It wasn't. In fact I felt like FFX would have been better if the setting was in Zanarkand.

Sidequests were terrible. Monster Arena, aka grind through hundreds of battles using mediocre equipment. Blitzball was a joke. Jecht Shot/Jecht Shot 2. minute long animations for jecht shot 2 and prizes are terrible after you get wakkas limits.

Battle System I actually enjoyed.... In the sense that I loved the expert sphere grid and having a fair amount of choices every time. Weapon/armour customization didn't come out well. Lots of options, not many real choices. The standard sphere grid though.... They might as well have just made it like pokemon where you learned a new skill every few levels. Only the illusion of choice existed in the standard grid.

Setting was also terrible. For a game that names itself final fantasy, the setting of ffx was about as much of a fantasy as my backyard. running down straight paths knowing exactly where you're going, and nothing that you would look twice at. Terrain wasn't interactive and that was something I always loved about FF.

Characters were hard to connect with. Tidus looked like a massive tool. Yuna was dull. Auron I enjoyed. Noone else was developed enough.
 
If it hadn't been an FF title, perhaps I'd have been more forgiving
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That's the problem. FF12 isn't a FF. 13 is more of an FF than 12. 12 would be more praised if another company made it with no reference to the FF franchise. Imo 12 > 10.
Both are good games though. Flawed, but still good.

I'm actually doing playthrough of 10 now. It's a better game if you ignore all the side stuff and just concentrate on the beating the game.
F*ck you Tidus, Rikku, cloister of trails, laughing scene and mandatory blitzball game!  >:(

I found out if you do it like this, it's pretty much the exact same experience as 13. 13 is still weaker though.

Edit: oh and the reason for posting here.

I don't care about versus 13. 6 years in development? Wow... I can't imagine squeeny not using the materials for something at least.
 
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I don't care about anything Final Fantasy, as long as they don't come with a FF VII Remake, FFVII-2, or a game on par with FF VII...

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Agreed.  :'(

Horrible characters in X killed it for me, the voice acting didn't help that much.
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It would have been much better without voices, but i didn't like the art style too. Much to "cartoonish" and clean as opposed to VII which was more greyish, dirty and realistic  (and awesome)

And for some reason the MUSIC did never again sound as good as in FF VII.
 
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