(18:12:10) kimchiacid [[email protected]] entered the room.(18:12:24) kimchiacid: hi(18:12:51) kimchiacid: im a begginner in proggramming and i need some help(18:13:48) kimchiacid: im trying to remove the buster sword from the modded world map model(18:14:25) kimchiacid: i was able to do it on the modded field model because someone posted what code mess with and what to change it to(18:15:02) kimchiacid: but for the woeld map even if i have the file open as a txt file in front of me and i know what code to change(18:15:07) kimchiacid: i don't know what to change it to(18:15:25) kimchiacid: can someone help with that?(18:16:32) Jari [[email protected]] entered the room.(18:17:34) kimchiacid: hi(18:17:56) Jari: Hey(18:19:10) kimchiacid: do you know anything about bbe.hcr?(18:19:21) kimchiacid: bbe.hrc*(18:19:40) kimchiacid: its a file extracted from world_us.lgp(18:19:50) kimchiacid: i need help editing it(18:20:13) Jari: Sorry, nope. :/(18:20:22) kimchiacid: hmm(18:20:23) kimchiacid: ok(18:20:42) kimchiacid: i guess ill wait for one of the admins to read it then(18:21:24) kimchiacid: qhimm?(18:23:40) Qhimm|work: I think you're better off asking at the forums for assistance, since I'm unfortunately not active in this kind of work any longer. And few of the people who frequent this chatroom are involved in any technical aspects of FF7 at all.(18:24:53) Jari: Wait... kimchiacid, you are idiot who saw it fit to post in an announcement thread?(18:25:19) Jari: And hate to break it to you, but your classes were wrong.(18:33:50) Qhimm|work left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).(18:34:03) kimchiacid: ?(18:34:08) kimchiacid: emulators?(18:35:36) kimchiacid: what i was taught was current laws regarding international and national copywrite infringement(18:35:59) kimchiacid: but laws do change all the time(18:36:18) Jari: Everything - repeat after me - EVERYTHING - made in a country that abides by the Berne convention are protected by copyrights. You do not have to do anything to protect it - it's very much automatical.(18:36:51) kimchiacid: you are half correct(18:37:05) kimchiacid: everything created automatically has a copywrite(18:37:12) kimchiacid: but its not federally protected(18:37:28) kimchiacid: until you get it protected(18:37:45) kimchiacid: thenyou gotta pay fees ever so often(18:37:55) Jari: Bullshit!(18:38:01) kimchiacid: lol(18:38:03) Jari: There is no such thing as fees for copyright.(18:38:08) kimchiacid: yes(18:38:11) kimchiacid: your right(18:38:16) kimchiacid: not for copyright(18:38:21) kimchiacid: but for protection(18:38:26) Jari: There are fees to register and uphold trademarks though, but that is entirely different thing.(18:38:32) kimchiacid: yes(18:38:35) kimchiacid: als correct(18:38:46) Jari: Oh Jesus on a pogostick, were you born that stupid, or did you hit your head recently?(18:38:52) kimchiacid: lol(18:39:03) kimchiacid: you must be very good at teaching people(18:39:05) kimchiacid: you know that?(18:39:08) Jari: Feel free to provide proof of the said fees. ASAP.(18:39:21) kimchiacid: likewise?(18:39:30) kimchiacid: for the pogostick remark ofcourse(18:39:33) kimchiacid: lol(18:39:40) Jari: Considering that teaching is one of the things I do for living - I'd hope so.(18:40:34) kimchiacid: wow(18:40:38) kimchiacid: you must have tenure then(18:41:53) kimchiacid: but yes using pogostick jesus and birth defects all in one sentence does deserve some credit(18:42:22) Jari: Freelancer. But I'm waiting for your proof.(18:42:41) kimchiacid: oh and by the way i was talking about intellectuall property(18:42:48) kimchiacid: which cover multiple things(18:43:06) Jari: Yes?(18:43:12) Qhimm|work [xxx] entered the room.(18:43:32) kimchiacid: and if you are looking at a company than they would have to renew their ownership of it ever 70 years or so(18:43:55) kimchiacid: but i think thier was a recent change in that law(18:44:09) kimchiacid: i think it was increased to 90 if im not mistaken(18:44:43) Jari: And no, you do not "renew" your ownership either.(18:45:05) Jari: When it's gone, it's gone. Disney just managed to pressure the government into making the period longer.(18:45:25) kimchiacid: im sorry(18:45:28) kimchiacid: i meant rights(18:45:53) Jari: Well, you don't renew any "rights" either.(18:46:06) kimchiacid: well you can sell them(18:46:09) kimchiacid: you can buy them(18:46:13) kimchiacid: you can claim them(18:46:25) kimchiacid: and you can lose them(18:46:35) kimchiacid: but it all takes paperwork(18:47:23) Jari: No. You can't lose them. In some countries you can't even sell or buy *all* of them, with works of art the artists always retains certain control over how his or her piece is presented.(18:47:32) kimchiacid: and processing isn't exactly free(18:47:47) kimchiacid: yes that is correct(18:47:54) kimchiacid: but are we talking about those countries?(18:47:58) ye-roon: more people(18:48:01) ye-roon: zomg(18:48:11) Jari: How about you producing the proof of the said fees?(18:48:29) kimchiacid: you've never heard of processing charges?(18:48:39) Jari: Namely the fee for retaining the federal protection.(18:48:49) kimchiacid: tehres the original fee(18:49:04) Jari: PROOF, ASSHAT, CAN YOU FIND IT?(18:49:33) kimchiacid: you can federally mail it to yourself, which is the most common method(18:49:50) kimchiacid: and that costs min $50(18:50:01) kimchiacid: at least last i went to a post office(18:50:08) kimchiacid: it could be more though(18:50:27) kimchiacid: and whats an asshat?(18:50:42) Jari: You are one. You are talking out of your ass, without a proof of any kind.(18:50:52) kimchiacid: hmm(18:51:16) kimchiacid: well i would usually same something like " the only as here is.."(18:51:24) kimchiacid: but your a civil servant(18:51:31) kimchiacid: so i will restrain myself(18:51:54) Jari: You don't have. You have to bring me some proof, though.(18:52:00) Jari: *have to.*(18:52:03) kimchiacid: i already have(18:52:38) Jari: No, you haven't. You have presented all kinds of arguments. With no proof.(18:52:46) Jari: Do you even know what proof means?(18:52:51) kimchiacid: ok(18:52:56) Qhimm|work left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).(18:53:02) kimchiacid: we both know that there are processing charges(18:53:05) kimchiacid: right?(18:53:12) kimchiacid: and mailing fees right?(18:53:19) kimchiacid: those should be givens(18:53:32) Jari: No, I do not. I for one do not live in the US.(18:53:37) kimchiacid: ok(18:53:46) kimchiacid: well im sorry(18:54:03) kimchiacid: there are federal charges those things(18:54:06) kimchiacid: if you want(18:54:10) Jari: But the fee I'm really interested in - and you are trying to avoid finding proof for - is the fee for copyright protection. So, let's see the proof.(18:54:17) kimchiacid: i can send you a link to a site with the prices(18:54:37) Jari: Oh, by all means post the link here.(18:54:48) kimchiacid: i don't mean to offend, but do you know what a fee is?(18:55:03) Jari: I have this faint idea.(18:55:24) kimchiacid: its an amount owed from party to another(18:55:46) kimchiacid: thats it!(18:55:48) Jari: But do you know what sarcasm means?(18:56:23) kimchiacid: i have this faint idea.(18:56:38) Jari: Seems bit too faint.(18:56:49) kimchiacid: it seems so(18:56:57) Jari: Oh yes. Link please.(18:57:03) kimchiacid: oh ok(18:57:11) kimchiacid: mailing charges coming up(19:01:28) kimchiacid: http://www.usps.com/prices/welcome.htm(19:01:39) kimchiacid: price for first class international(19:02:09) kimchiacid: http://www.usps.com/international/intlspecialservices.htm#H1(19:02:16) kimchiacid: ifo for registered mail(19:02:21) Jari: Yes?(19:02:33) Jari: And how exactly are these related to paying for copyright protection?(19:02:50) kimchiacid: now what this does is when you mail a package to your self in the states(19:03:32) kimchiacid: there is federal proof that the creation of the item would precede anyone elses creation by linking it to your identity(19:04:14) Jari: Oh dear God...(19:04:23) kimchiacid: and obviously there would be a date of sender and date of arrival(19:04:36) kimchiacid: this is the most common practice(19:04:44) Jari: And how exactly are these related to paying for copyright protection?(19:04:55) kimchiacid: are you serious?(19:05:17) Jari: VERY MUCH SO.(19:05:19) kimchiacid: that is copyright protection(19:05:42) kimchiacid: thats is the party protection his/her intellectual property(19:05:50) kimchiacid: protecting*(19:06:54) Jari: ...okay. You sure got me there. I thought that this was just mailing shit to myself.(19:07:08) kimchiacid: lol(19:07:34) kimchiacid: thats just the most common method(19:07:50) kimchiacid: btw(19:07:53) kimchiacid: what do you teach(19:09:21) Jari: Dude, you have no - absolutely NO - idea what you are talking about.(19:09:56) Jari: IT-related stuff, mostly to end users. Depends on what the client needs me to teach.(19:11:06) kimchiacid: wow sounds hord(19:11:10) kimchiacid: hard*(19:11:29) kimchiacid: im in the programming sect(19:11:56) kimchiacid: but im not too versed in the languages yet though(19:13:06) kimchiacid: though i have taken my fair share of computer and business ethics courses(19:14:26) kimchiacid: but i also do hope for the sake of your clients that you don't usually talk the way you type(19:15:04) kimchiacid: because it makes it quite difficult to learn(19:15:16) kimchiacid: and in the end isn't that all that matters?(19:17:22) kimchiacid: guess not(19:19:31) kimchiacid: are you by any chance griever?(19:20:19) Jari: No, I'm bored. With you, that is.(19:20:42) kimchiacid: ok(19:20:59) kimchiacid: im glad that i wasn't boring up until now(19:33:22) Jari left the room (quit: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org).
was just that these types of conversations would be fine on a peace lovers forum, as long as it's kept in a place such as Completely Unrelated, therefor not upsetting anyone wanting serious help, or discussing serious topics in other threads. ;-)