[HD Remake] WIP Sector 5 slums

[Mayo Master]

Also, although there is a walkmesh in that area, there isn't any characters actually walking in that area, correct? So would it matter as long as it looked correct with the sitting NPC?

could be a child-seat, I wouldn't worrie about the size difference.

I believe one of the shop clerk actually sits there. I think I'll run with the assumption that it's a child seat and match the original image on that, then.

Use the force your instincts Luke

My instincts tell me that the original designer might have had too much sake on the night before handling that scene    That, and the fact that the outdoor scene of the slums and this one were handled by two different artists. I think I'll re-arrange that section around the driver's place to something I like better.

As for this pc... it would have little use as a data storage unit, it's hard drive is about 100 Gb, while I also have a 1 Tb external hard drive. I think I'll just man up and invest into a good PC and be rid of most limitations (I'm thinking something along the lines of a i7 core with 12 Gb ram and an okay GPU, that should do it and remain below $1000).

 

[ajthedj747]

As for this pc... it would have little use as a data storage unit, it's hard drive is about 100 Gb, while I also have a 1 Tb external hard drive. I think I'll just man up and invest into a good PC and be rid of most limitations (I'm thinking something along the lines of a i7 core with 12 Gb ram and an okay GPU, that should do it and remain below $1000).

May I recommend the one I bought from Cyber Power PC, except use a different seller for your purchase:

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[Shankifer]

May I recommend the one I bought from Cyber Power PC, except use a different seller for your purchase:

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8GB Ram? get rid of that 2 tera drive and just reuse an old HDD use the SSD for boot and long term programs. Go AMD and save yourself about 500 dollars since the graphics card is AMD. Also make sure the graphics card is on a card with a good heat-sink and fan. XFX has a dual fan setup. The Sapphires are cheaper but they get hot real quick and for the price difference I'd rather have the XFX. For rendering and editing I would grab an 8 core FX as they just dropped to about 170 bucks and you can run them at about 4.0 (which is lower than the quad-core, but the power gets distributed much better. grab at least 16gb ram, preferably like 32 to help out on render times.

Thats a quick breakdown, I just had to post considering that build posted before me is overpriced and underpowered, and that card is not worth 650 dollars. I'd also gram something with a 27in tall case to improve airflow but thats just me. If I had the know-how I could probl render a lot of shit for you guys and never put my PC under much stress.

I used to 3d model but have sinced lost my programs and I get frustrated with blender because I don't understand it lol.
if anyone ever needs anything done and can send me what program to use and what to do, I can try to lend some PC power, just pm me

 

[Cyberman]

The original picture can be viewed at: http://mirror.ff7data.com.ar/ff7/data/field/flevel.lgp/mds5_w.png.

So... there are mostly 2 things that have been bothering me in that scene. First is the seat on the left hand side, near the back wall of the bus, where one of the shop clerk sits. This particular seat is actually considerably smaller that all the other seats on the scene. I thought of resizing it so that it matches the others, but it looks like the walkmesh in that area corresponds to the small height of the seat. So...
a/ I can carry on with a seat whose size matches the other, but we'll have to test how that'd look in game
b/ I keep the seat tiny, and we'll have to assume that a kid's seat is being used in that place.

I suggest replacing the seat with an object like a box or something (the seat isn't used anyhow so... I wouldn't care if it looked like a box instead). You could make it a baby seat for a car instead for example

The other part that concerns me is much worse: the bus driver seat, dashboard, etc. In the original picture, it's actually a complete nonsense. The seat is misaligned with the cabin, the height of the seat and its position would make it impossible to see the road when driving, it's a mess really. I made some corrections already in my version (the seat is closer to the dashboard, higher, and the steering wheel is more vertical, like in an actual bus), but if that's fine with you, I'd like to redesign that part quite a bit. I think the original picture from the outside of the bus (http://mirror.ff7data.com.ar/ff7/data/field/flevel.lgp/mds5_1.png) could be used as some reference (in addition to some photos of real buses). A redesign of this section would not be a problem as far as the walkmesh is concerned.

Yeah it always puzzled me about that chair. Also no broken glass visible inside (heh).

Well, actually there's a third thing that may need to be corrected. There's some sort of metallic handrail+grid between the bus driver seat and a passenger seat behind it. In the original picture, this handrail/grid is in the middle of the walkmesh  ???  I'm of a mind to put it on the edge of the walkmesh (moving it towards the front of the bus), especially since redesigning the bus driver seat section will move this part more towards the front of the bus, as well.

Well walking through a handrail does seem odd no?

So... that's about it for the moment, some feedback would be appreciated.

You mentioned an old machine and the graphics system on it. You may wish to uprade with a display card (I did on this machine cause the built in one was a 'wtf' do I need this for kind of thing) and disable to iinfernal err internal one. I have 8 gigs on this OLD machine (yep it's 3 years old) it's a quad core and runs OK dokey. I've been looking at upgrades recently myself, but I don't really want to talk about what my next machine will be (bigger is all I can say). All the machines at work have the built in display system disabled and have NVIDIA qudro cards in them because of the huge difference it makes in just doing simple tasks. Running Xp with 2G ram and a quadro card makes my work a lot easier (I do beat the snot out of the machine too I run several applications and compile stuff simultaneously).

Anyhow if you check what bus you have change your Vid card installed instead. That is a good upgrade you don't need a gaming monster card but a good display card IS priceless I rarely play games on machines. Save maybe oblivion (which is mostly because I can't mod it on the <censored> PS3 system).

Cyb

 

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I am not taking part in this project so a bit off topic
but I still use a dual Pentium III 1260mhz that can take up to 4GB RAM.

 

[Nightmarish]

I believe that in the original the seat is lower and the wheel has a different angle.
Also the square window has that slide thingy on the middle (2 glasses).

 

[Mayo Master]

I believe that in the original the seat is lower and the wheel has a different angle.
Also the square window has that slide thingy on the middle (2 glasses).

About the drivers' seat and wheel: yes you are right, in the original picture the seat is lower, the the wheel is set at a different angle. I started to change that deliberately because when you model it, the original combination seat/wheel/dashboard is completely messed up (basically, a driver wouldn't be able to see the road). Modifying that area wouldn't be a problem as far as the walkmesh is concern, so I'll do that.
About the window: again, you are right. Since I posted the picture, I already modified that window quite a bit and arranged it with 2 overlapping sliding panels, which will fit the original description and be realistic.
As a side note, I also started to work on another field screen from the sewers (colne_be3), using Cycles as a rendering engine. I hope to post some pictures soon.

 

[Timu Sumisu]

when you model it, the original combination seat/wheel/dashboard is completely messed up (basically, a driver wouldn't be able to see the road).

Maybe thats why its a weapon shop now

 

[Nightmarish]

Great to hear Mayo Master.
I can only hope you find motivation to finish every scenario you start with, you have great skills.

 

[Mayo Master]

Thanks for the encouragement 
Well, the motivation is there, don't worry about that. I only wish I had more time and a better computer (hell, I don't have the time to get a better computer  : ).

 

[Mayo Master]

Hi folks,

Just letting you know: I've converted my "old" HD version of mds5_dk with Palmer and uploaded that to the WIP repo. It's 2 .png files that can be found under /Field Scenes/mds5_dk/. To make it work, they need to be placed in /mods/<modpath>/field/mds5_dk/. You're welcome to give it a try.
As far as this particular scene is concerned, I'll do an overhaul later as I plan to redo the lighting and texturing with the Cycles render. That's why I didn't upload it as a "Final" version.

 

[Mayo Master]

Getting started on a new one, while I'm running the fluid sim for colne_b1...

It's only 50% res here, no point in making a super-detailed render if I got the scene only 3% done 

 

[Mayo Master]

Hi everyone and happy new year,

I've resumed working on my scenes during the vacations. I only hope to be able to maintain some kind of pace once the holidays are over.
Anyway, here's a progress update on mds5_1, I hope you enjoy it.

 

[LeonhartGR]

Happy New Year Mayo! Keep it up!

 

[Killerx20]

Happy new year everybody!
Mayo that's looking really good, cant wait to see the lighting from the monitor and buildings put into that!

 

[KnifeTheSky77]

Happy new year, that scene is looking good so far. Is there any news on aeriths house?

 

[Mayo Master]

Thanks guys!
By the way, I wanted to mention that the roofs in this scene are made with overlays of corrugated sheets, which have been modelled one by one - they're not just painted textures. You cannot see that at the resolution imageshack displays, but it shows in the original (the picture size is about 2500 x 2000). I've just modelled one of the flood lights, I'm also looking forward to seeing how the huge TV screen is going to light up the scene.
About Aerith's house: I intend to revisit all the scenes of the house (exterior and interior) with the Cycles rendering engine. It will require re-texturing everything, but I think it is worth it. The same goes for the other scenes of the sector 5 slums I made with the old internal rendering engine. In addition, I will layer them to have them playable in game. In a way, I would like to eventually come up with a complete package of scenes relevant to this area of the game. I just hope my regular work will leave me enough time for doing that

 

[LeonhartGR]

Tears of joy!

 

[Mayo Master]

Ok, posting a progress update here. I've been working on the mess in the background, plus the roof tiles. I'll do some revisions on the textures later. I have yet to add lots of rubble, piles of junk and random pipes. I hope you enjoy (It's a 50% size render).

 

[LeonhartGR]

Your renders are always promising! Keep it up and thank you for your professional approach!