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That song is hillarious!
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ChaosControl
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Hahahaha,
That made my day
That made my day
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Jari
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Sony unveiled Home at GDC07:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/gdc07-clip-the-ps3s-home-242341.php
http://kotaku.com/gaming/gdc07/gdc07-sony-unveils-home-242332.php
Personally I love the comments on the video piece; fickle is the mind of a fanboy. First they were bashing Sony about everything - not that Fony wouldn't have deserved it - and now... now they seem to be gushing about Second Life clone / really awkward GUI for online multiplayer.
I'm of the "Now, why do I want to do this?"-mind.
It looks pretty and all... but why? If I wanted to play with virtual doll house, I'd just get Second Life and go yiffing with the furries. Because unlike here, there you can actually create your own stuff, instead ofdownloading buying (notice how many times they say that you can download this or that from PlayStation Store? Notice the Store in that sentence? Notice how they are avoiding the word buy? ).
Lobby for online games? Hello Sony, didn't anyone ever tell you anything about UI-design? Namely about things how too many levels of links are baaaad? So, in order to play an online title (I'd imagine that you can do it like you do it now, too. I'd certainly hope so.), I'd first have to log into Home, hoping that the servers are up and running and not lagging horribly. Then I'd start the game? Umm, no thanks.
Does Sony think that I'd actually want to socialize with the people who play games online? Hellll-ooo? We are talking about largely <18 crowd, whose greatest accomplishment is to yell to their mom, because they can't get their motherfucking chocolate milk. Apologies for swearing, but that's what the kid said. I'm sure you have seen the video I'm talking about.
Then again, I think that MySpace servers should be blown up, all users killed and the inventors killed, resurrected and killed again for few thousand times. At least long enough that they'll repent. So, maybe this shit just ain't for me.
That being said, it does look pretty.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/gdc07-clip-the-ps3s-home-242341.php
http://kotaku.com/gaming/gdc07/gdc07-sony-unveils-home-242332.php
Personally I love the comments on the video piece; fickle is the mind of a fanboy.
First they were bashing Sony about everything - not that Fony wouldn't have deserved it - and now... now they seem to be gushing about Second Life clone / really awkward GUI for online multiplayer.I'm of the "Now, why do I want to do this?"-mind.
It looks pretty and all... but why? If I wanted to play with virtual doll house, I'd just get Second Life and go yiffing with the furries. Because unlike here, there you can actually create your own stuff, instead of
).Lobby for online games? Hello Sony, didn't anyone ever tell you anything about UI-design? Namely about things how too many levels of links are baaaad? So, in order to play an online title (I'd imagine that you can do it like you do it now, too. I'd certainly hope so.), I'd first have to log into Home, hoping that the servers are up and running and not lagging horribly. Then I'd start the game? Umm, no thanks.
Does Sony think that I'd actually want to socialize with the people who play games online? Hellll-ooo? We are talking about largely <18 crowd, whose greatest accomplishment is to yell to their mom, because they can't get their motherfucking chocolate milk. Apologies for swearing, but that's what the kid said. I'm sure you have seen the video I'm talking about.
Then again, I think that MySpace servers should be blown up, all users killed and the inventors killed, resurrected and killed again for few thousand times. At least long enough that they'll repent. So, maybe this shit just ain't for me.
That being said, it does look pretty.
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Oi, I have a myspace >_>
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Well my mate getting the PS3 when it comes out in the UK. Mate won't got any updates till i go up there and do them for him.
I don't like how Sony messed around the one coming out here.
Will new PS3 that come's out in USA and Japan in a year be like the ones out here now??
But i'm staying out of this Gen-War for a year or two
I don't like how Sony messed around the one coming out here.
Will new PS3 that come's out in USA and Japan in a year be like the ones out here now??
But i'm staying out of this Gen-War for a year or two
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Jari
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MAD LULZ!
The list is out: http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/
FFX, FFX-2, Okami and latest FIFA versions barely run.
But get this... the PSX compatiblity list - which was supposed to be 100% - is lacking... fanfare please ...Final Fantasy VII. And I mean completely lacking. As in it won't run at all.
Additionally they instruct you - among other things - to skip FMVs. Because they might be corrupted. And disconnect your USB devices.
:-D
Teh ironing! It's delicious! :-D
The list is out: http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/
FFX, FFX-2, Okami and latest FIFA versions barely run.
But get this... the PSX compatiblity list - which was supposed to be 100% - is lacking... fanfare please ...Final Fantasy VII. And I mean completely lacking. As in it won't run at all.
Additionally they instruct you - among other things - to skip FMVs. Because they might be corrupted. And disconnect your USB devices.
:-D
Teh ironing! It's delicious! :-D
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Borde
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What the... what's wrong with Sony? Can't they make a decent PSX emulator at least? Man, If they have problems with this, I don't want to know how long will they take to run some PS2 games on their emulator.
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Oh my christ.
Im actually crying with laughter at that list, how shit can you possibly do?
Im actually crying with laughter at that list, how shit can you possibly do?
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Jari
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...and FFXIII going multiplatform?
I mean, just before the European launch?
Having said that, I'd certainly welcome FF-games on 360, even though I don't have one.
I actually do believe that this is either merely unfortunate choice of words on Fornay's part, or translation mishap... but it goes to show that with friends like these, Sony really doesn't need any enemies.
I mean, just before the European launch?
Having said that, I'd certainly welcome FF-games on 360, even though I don't have one.
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Well, sony recently lost Devil May Cry 4 to the 360 and PC, lets hope for more to follow.
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Wasn't it sony's intention to release FF7 as a downloadable game, at least for the PSP - that could be why it won't work.
Possibly in the future they might release selected PS2 games for purchase thus blocking them from working with it's PS2 emulator.
Possibly in the future they might release selected PS2 games for purchase thus blocking them from working with it's PS2 emulator.
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Jari
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...that is so evil plan, that Sony might actually do it.
How nice of them, if that is indeed the reason. :|
How nice of them, if that is indeed the reason. :|
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Fanboys are obviously a sick, masochistic bunch (and totally deserving of every rip-off Fony can come up with)... but if I was writing for Ars Technica, I'd think twice before quoting an unsourced figure from BBC.
It wouldn't be the first time BBC is talking out of its ass (this report is even sourced - and it still has no connection to reality. I was surprised enough by the Helsinki figures to dig out an actual stats from police and interior ministry. The figure quoted by BBC is "only" several times too large. *shrugs*)
Only (at least somewhat) verifiable source I have is this: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=6798 and it would seem to suggest that while it sells, it doesn't sell particularly well. When reading that, you have to keep in mind that they'll show all figures larger than 25 as "more than 25" instead of the actual number - to hide some information from competition, I suppose.
So, we know that they have received a minimum of 77 units. It could be lot more, of course. They might have received at least one shipment of 25 or more on Thursday too, I don't remember (it shows last 5 transactions on both received and sold, so it might be leaving the oldest ones out), so it might be more than 102.
They are still showing at least 25 unsold at their central warehouse, 3 in one of their actual stores (they do mostly e-retail via the Internets) and at least 25 in another of their stores (out of total of two stores).
Meaning that out of more than 77 received units, they still have more than 53 in stock.
They have sold more than 24, sure... I've been keeping an eye on the latest sales, and it looks like they sold maybe 10 to 20 yesterday and the day before that, maybe about 20 on Saturday and bit more than that on Friday. Today it seems to be that they have sold maybe only 5. That's for their internet sales, the actual stores have sold maybe a handful in that time.
This is the largest IT-etailer in Finland, but it's not very game oriented. Still, it's large enough to give some kind of impression about the actual sales.
I think that to reach 600,000 over the entire Europe, it would have to have almost record breaking sales in every country in Europe. England is the largest video game market in Europe (I believe, I'm not 100% sure), and the rest keep getting gradually smaller, some because of population, some because of purchasing power. While England is only about 10% of Europe population wise, the market is considerably larger in relation to say... Poland for example (which has about 80% of England's population, but purchasing power per capita is only 40% of England's... for now, at least).
At the very least it would have had to sell really well in Germany, and France, and I don't think that those two combined with England are anywhere large enough to account for 600,000 sales in total.
It wouldn't be the first time BBC is talking out of its ass (this report is even sourced - and it still has no connection to reality. I was surprised enough by the Helsinki figures to dig out an actual stats from police and interior ministry. The figure quoted by BBC is "only" several times too large. *shrugs*)
Only (at least somewhat) verifiable source I have is this: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=6798 and it would seem to suggest that while it sells, it doesn't sell particularly well. When reading that, you have to keep in mind that they'll show all figures larger than 25 as "more than 25" instead of the actual number - to hide some information from competition, I suppose.
So, we know that they have received a minimum of 77 units. It could be lot more, of course. They might have received at least one shipment of 25 or more on Thursday too, I don't remember (it shows last 5 transactions on both received and sold, so it might be leaving the oldest ones out), so it might be more than 102.
They are still showing at least 25 unsold at their central warehouse, 3 in one of their actual stores (they do mostly e-retail via the Internets) and at least 25 in another of their stores (out of total of two stores).
Meaning that out of more than 77 received units, they still have more than 53 in stock.
They have sold more than 24, sure... I've been keeping an eye on the latest sales, and it looks like they sold maybe 10 to 20 yesterday and the day before that, maybe about 20 on Saturday and bit more than that on Friday. Today it seems to be that they have sold maybe only 5. That's for their internet sales, the actual stores have sold maybe a handful in that time.
This is the largest IT-etailer in Finland, but it's not very game oriented. Still, it's large enough to give some kind of impression about the actual sales.
I think that to reach 600,000 over the entire Europe, it would have to have almost record breaking sales in every country in Europe. England is the largest video game market in Europe (I believe, I'm not 100% sure), and the rest keep getting gradually smaller, some because of population, some because of purchasing power. While England is only about 10% of Europe population wise, the market is considerably larger in relation to say... Poland for example (which has about 80% of England's population, but purchasing power per capita is only 40% of England's... for now, at least).
At the very least it would have had to sell really well in Germany, and France, and I don't think that those two combined with England are anywhere large enough to account for 600,000 sales in total.
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Figures are around 160k units for the UK.
So somewhere, another "440k" have to have been "sold" in the rest of the EU
So somewhere, another "440k" have to have been "sold" in the rest of the EU
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Found this on ELSPA's page:
EDIT: I think I might know where the 600,000 comes from. BBC is probably extrapolating it from the 165,000, using table such as this for basis.
If it's like that... well, then it pretty much would have had to break records in every country to reach 600,000, like I said earlier.
EDIT2: These are supposedly the numbers Sony claims for Europe:
From here.
There are other strange things about the figures, as well. One way to interpret this article is that there were 40,000 PS3s reserved for Scandinavian launch... in which they supposedly sold 52,000. But technically it doesn't say anywhere in that article that that particular shipment would be the only one.
You might notice that I use word "supposedly" a lot, that's just because PS3 was supposed to do lots of things, but truth turned out to be stranger than fiction. I'd rather buy an used car from gypsy, than trust what Sony says.
Oh yeah, the PS3s on Ebay UK going for less than the list price is kinda amusing phenomena, too. Serves the scalpers right.
And oh yeah^2: I would like to congratulate European consumer for bending over and taking it up the ass for Sony. I hope you are happy with your choice, and I certainly think that you deserve what you got. :-D
EDIT3: Even those figures are estimates. And... well, you know what I think of Sony's estimates.
That article is couple of years old (and actually by now European video game market is the largest in the world, only reason why it's not more significant is that it's not homogenous like US or Japanese markets, where you have only one major language on each), but if that ratio is still true, I'm almost ready to bet real money that PS3 did not sell 600,000 units.
EDIT: I think I might know where the 600,000 comes from. BBC is probably extrapolating it from the 165,000, using table such as this for basis.
If it's like that... well, then it pretty much would have had to break records in every country to reach 600,000, like I said earlier.
EDIT2: These are supposedly the numbers Sony claims for Europe:
From here.
If you assume that Chart Track was correct with their 165,000 for UK, and apply similar "correction" to the rest of the numbers, it adds up to about 547,000. Which in turn apparently is about 55% of the supposedly reserved one million.
There are other strange things about the figures, as well. One way to interpret this article is that there were 40,000 PS3s reserved for Scandinavian launch... in which they supposedly sold 52,000. But technically it doesn't say anywhere in that article that that particular shipment would be the only one.
You might notice that I use word "supposedly" a lot, that's just because PS3 was supposed to do lots of things, but truth turned out to be stranger than fiction. I'd rather buy an used car from gypsy, than trust what Sony says.
Oh yeah, the PS3s on Ebay UK going for less than the list price is kinda amusing phenomena, too. Serves the scalpers right.
And oh yeah^2: I would like to congratulate European consumer for bending over and taking it up the ass for Sony. I hope you are happy with your choice, and I certainly think that you deserve what you got. :-D
EDIT3: Even those figures are estimates. And... well, you know what I think of Sony's estimates.
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God bless the BBC for their educated intelligence.
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