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I have come to the conclusion that a new game plus feature is the single more important element for all decent RPGs to have, but unfortunately no Final Fantasy to date has made use of such a handy feature.

Whether any of you agree or not, how possible would some of you folks say hacking such a feature into FFVII PC might be?
 
Just use Jenova to give your new game party the same stats as the one you finished with.

 As for implimenting the actual feature... That would be tricky. I'm sure dziugo (the master) could do it though if he wanted to.
 
(...)if he wanted to.
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And had skills required  :-?. But... how would you want it to be implemented? The general idea of course, not the technical stuff...

dziugo
 
BTW, Jenova can't edit stats properly last I heard... I dunno if Qhimm ever released a fixed version =/
 
There's only two games I can think of that have that feature (both SNES):

1:  Chrono Trigger

2:  Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals

What other games have that feature?
 
There's only two games I can think of that have that feature (both SNES):

1:  Chrono Trigger

2:  Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals

What other games have that feature?
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thats all I know of

ps: is it relly that hard to make a new game+ feature. I would think the hardest thing would be to add a auto save point at the end after the credits (a clear data save (then make sure the game knows to start you off at the biggining of the game with that save (with all your items and materia)
 
Actually it would be incredibly easy to do.

We know which parts of a save file are your items, stats, characters, etc.
The things you want to keep after a New Game+.

To actually achieve a New Game+, you overwrite the entire save file EXCEPT for that data.

All the progression flags will be reset and you will start at the beginning.
After that you need only minor tweaking.  Unequip all characters but keep the items.  Remove all characters from your team but Cloud.
And so forth.
These are all things we already know how to do.


A program to edit a save file in this manner would take no more than a day.


L. Spiro
 
A program to edit a save file in this manner would take no more than a day.
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So it was about modifying save-game, not adding that option to ff7?

dziugo
 
It gets the job done.
That’s the only point there is.

Who cares if there isn’t an actual save-point added to the game at the end?

People (in general) need to stop being so whiney and expecting too much.

And we have more important things to do anyway.  If he wants the feature, he gets what we give given the amount of time we have to make it.
So, he can beat the game and just use the program.
Done.


L. Spiro
 
What other games?

Parasite Eve series.
Fatal Frame series.
Devil May Cry.
Metal Gear Solid series
Vagrant Story (I think)
Shadow Hearts series
Xenosaga Ep2
SMT: Nocturne
SMT: Digital Devil Saga
Star Ocean 3 (In a very small sense, unlockables thru battle trophies)

I'm sure I missed more than a few.
 
Should have thought of the MGS series, haha.  Ah well.  I have Star Ocean (one of them, can't remember which),  but have yet to go through it.  Even have parasite eve, but have yet to go through that as well.  I really have a ton of games I need to go through, sheesh.
 
i dont know about how you can transfer your stuff and stats, but as soon as thats figured out all you have to do is make a scene.bin file with all the creatures at maxed out levels like your guys prolly are, so they can take many hits with the 4x cut + ultima weapon combo that would normally do 9999 damage per hit, basically a game that makes it super hard from the beginning cus obviously you've mastered the game if you beat Sephiroth, and change the values of what the potion and hi-potion to heal to 1000 and 5000 hp. thats basically what a +newgame is, the same gameplay except a little extra something in the beggining and much harder gameplay from here on out. PS, does anyone notice that if you use Jenova before the flashback sequence in Kalm sephiroth and cloud cant hit anything (their weapons are gone though you can still see them) if you wait till afterwards to edit anything and you won't have that problem.
 
Anyone remember the actual point of this thread?
Stop worrying about what damn games are on that list.
If you have a technical idea to contribute towards the actual purpose of this topic, please do so.


L. Spiro
 
Anyone remember the actual point of this thread?
Stop worrying about what damn games are on that list.
If you have a technical idea to contribute towards the actual purpose of this topic, please do so.


L. Spiro
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I agree this tread was made for this game not making a list of game with the feature we want to add.

I may not know how to program, but I think I might have a idea on how to do it.

First find the part of the cade that makes the save point at the end of disk one and 2. The add the save point at the end of the last fmv, then figure out how to make the save file save it so you start out at the trainstation with only cloud
 
Come on, isnt it just a case of READ Stats and inventory at the end of the Safer Sephiroth battle and then dump those into a fresh save of cloud at the train station at the start of the game?
Couldnt you use a program running in the background to capture the information in memory and make the save file?
 
Come on, isnt it just a case of READ Stats and inventory at the end of the Safer Sephiroth battle and then dump those into a fresh save of cloud at the train station at the start of the game?
Couldnt you use a program running in the background to capture the information in memory and make the save file?
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Do we even know how to "make" save files yet?
 
Come on, isnt it just a case of READ Stats and inventory at the end of the Safer Sephiroth battle and then dump those into a fresh save of cloud at the train station at the start of the game?
Couldnt you use a program running in the background to capture the information in memory and make the save file?
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Do we even know how to "make" save files yet?
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You would be surprised if you knew how easily it can be done (the whole New Game+ mod, not just "making the save files").

dziugo
 
What i wanna know is if there's a way to just cruise around on the world map and access the gold saucer after "beating" the game, kind of like how you can finsish the "GTA" games, but then still run around.
 
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