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Isn't the upper body too short and especially too narrow compared to the legs?  :?
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His belt is pretty high up, which explains his upper body looking short. Also his pants are very baggy, which makes his bottom half wider:
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My model is completely to scale with the original :D
 
It looks great imho and follows the original scheme :] Thumbs up for this model instead of a faggy emo AC Cloud haha
 
That's looking really good!

His shoulder pad is way too rusty looking though imo, and as others have said, his face could use a lil tweaking.
 
That looks so awesome!! I think the only problem is the texture of Cloud's skin is so strong??
 
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I'd say:
Remove his lips and do some "anime" like mouth, just a line to show he has a mouth. That would be faithful to the original thing i quess. Something like this. As for the nose i would remove its thickness and add, again, something more "anime" more like the concept art. Thick noses kinda look bad, ending like this.
 
I agree with Nightmarish.
The model looks awesome, but if you really want to be consistent with FFVII's original aesthetic, it would be a better idea to use something resembling a minimalistic manga-style mouth. The nose isn't as much of a problem.
 
I really have no idea what I am supposed to do, can somebody do a paintover?
 
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I believe that's kinda the gist of what I've read, though I may be way off. Sorry about the recolour, but I really wanted to see how close to the original art it would look. You're not far off at all! amazing work.
 
Ye, that was somehow what i meant, although we would need to find the perfect "line" for it.
I would also push his "chin" and "mouth area" a bit back, as it seems that is jaw is a bit big.

Another picture with his mouth/chin area.
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Then there's the nose/eyes area that i can't really put my finger on to say whats wrong with it. I know that human models are hard to make because of their head/faces; takes a lot of work to gain some experience in that part since they are much more detailed than making a body.

From APZ thread:
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Here's a bunch of modeled faces.
Although they look like kid faces, they might give an idea on how to build a better nose.


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Another googled model for Cloud to see a nice head/jaw/nose structure:

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Now that I look more closely at the mugshot of Cloud he also apears to have a tiny bit more depth to his face than the model has, but still it is coming along amazing!
 
Personally I like everything but the thickness of the lips.

To make this simple, I'd say keep everything exactly like this but reduce the thickness of the lips and post a WIP.

The nose and lip shape themselves give him that "angry" look I like but the lips being too thick are off.  There was the same symptom in the Barret model I find.  Everything was great but the lips were ... off for some reason.  Can't quite put my hand on what though.

Probably too much "depth" and "width" to the lips.
 
Am I the only one who noticed APZ's Cloud's face being ripped straight from Dissidia? :?
 
You mean just like it wasn't?
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I dunno, definately doesn't look like it to me. It's similar, but not identical.
 
If it's not too much trouble, can someone show me a wire frame of both heads looking froward?
As someone who does modeling... I see something curious.
 
I dunno, definately doesn't look like it to me. It's similar, but not identical.
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They *are* basically identical. Just check the textures, not the textured polygons.

APZ:
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Dissidia:
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Only eyes, hair, and skin tone are slightly different, but other than that it's the very same texture.
 
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Ugh, you're right, he Just shopped it. And to think, it was Apz that inspired me to start original creations...

EDIT: I've just been informed that dissidia was released after Apz released his model.
xD maybe Square stole it off him? Or maybe he actually works for SE, and was the artist of that texture sheet anyway. I highly doubt either of those, though D:
Also, this is super off-topic (Although it is pretty important :P)
 
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Wow you're right! I feel sad.. I thought Apz as a great 3d artist. Is it only the head that is identical?
 
Purged...  >:(
"Original Content means not swiping UVs either."
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It's more than likely he stole the textures too, and just shopped 'em. just sayin'.
...It doesn't feel good to 'grass up' Apz at all D:
 
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