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Ah ok now I see. Well I didnt see it coming either but actually the hints were more than subtle. If you pay attention at least....
First its Auron didnt want to enter the far plane. I thought its just cuz hes always so cool like he didnt want to share his memories with anyone.

BUT right after that Seymor asking "Why are you still here" was pretty obvious actually.
 
I thought it was well done.  I didn't think anything of it on first time through.  Seymour apologizes that his race are sensitive to the scent of the Farplane too if I remember.
 
Yes thats one sentence later. I always liked seymor a lot I think his character was VERY well done. The voice actor is genius its really the first sentence you hear from seymor that makes you react the way tidus describes it later on:
" I knew you were bad news ever since the first time we met" Seymor " Oh...my sinceriest apologies" Haha tidus owned :D
 
I also like Seymour.  I even made a FFX soundbank for worms armageddon if you play that ;) 

Favourite lines

"Your hope ends here. And your meaningless existence with it"
"Death awaits you!"
"Kill them."
"Then pretend you didn't hear it."

Well there are more.  I just liked the character and the voice tbh, even though a lot of people seem to have taken exception to FFX voice acting.  I thought for most part is was all well done across the board.

I do wish games gave options to turn voice acting off too though.
 
WHUUT?  :D seriously the voice acting is one of the best things about ffx imo...it makes the whole way the story is told so much more powerful and alive. I can never decide which ff has the best story to me. Somehow ffvii is my favorite but ffx's story is very good, too and in addition to that it has all those great dialogues that are actually spoken. I would prefer turning on voice acting on ff7 than disabling it on ffx :D

Hahaha "Then pretend you didnt hear it was really amazing". Wasnt that when wakka is trying to tell seymor that the military action at mihen using machina was somewhat bad ? First seymor says "pretend you didnt see it" yeah I remember. I also like how you can easily tell that seymor is not as nice as he pretends but at first I believed that he being reckless and having jyskal killed was all of it.

That he turns out a crazy psychopath trying to kill and destroy everything is not absolutely surprising but still weird in a way. At mihen I was still pretty convinced that seymor is actually trying to help spira even if he doesnt care about the methods.
 
To be fair the game writers made sure you knew from the word go just by the psycho music haha
 
"DEATH AWAITS YOU"

I remember I always killed seymor flux with zanmato! I hated when yojinbo automatically pulled out wakizashi and got "death awaits you"ed. :D
 
seriously the voice acting is one of the best things about ffx imo
Some of the voice acting is great... and some of it is Tidus. James Arnold Taylor has a history of incompetent voice performances. He's gotten better over the years (he's pretty decent in Johnny Test, even though the show itself is a steaming pile of whatsit), but Final Fantasy X was one of the first roles he got, and his amateurishness really showed. On the other hand, Wakka was played by John DiMaggio, who has a history of absolutely stellar voice performances (including a Joker even better than Mark Hamill or Heath Ledger).

OT: The best scene from any RPG is all of Chrono Trigger. Pick a scene, any scene, and it will be better than almost the entirety of most other RPGs. And then there's this:
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Yes, that's right. Chrono Trigger's GAME OVER screen is better IMO than any scene or moment in this thread so far. Really a testament to how near to perfection the game itself was.

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To be fair the game writers made sure you knew from the word go just by the psycho music haha
This is a mark of either bad writing or bad music direction. If you were supposed to know, it should've been obvious without the music. If you weren't supposed to know, the music shouldn't have given it away. In either case, the reveal should be the script's responsibility.
 
Not sure I agree with that, it's possible they just wanted to hint at it without making sure you knew.
 
Since some great things have already been taken, I go with Grandia (1):

During the game you literally cross the end of the world, a gigantic wall of unknown origin.
On it's top one sees, that it's not the end of the world, but more likely it's beginning.
 
I liked James as Tidus a lot. The great thing about ffx was the first person narrator tidus and taylor did a great job imo. "Listen to my story" gives me chills ;)

The guy is pretty genius anyway :

I dont think I could imagine ffx without tidus' voice. I still godda play chrono trigger.
 
I feel like Mother 3 would hold up to Chrono Trigger if it was released outside of Japan and more people knew about it. Not that it's obscure, but a lot of people never took the time to play it because they had to patch the translation, emulate it, etc.
 
I would actually probably say mine would be when you see Skeith for the first time in Infection.  The music along with his speed and invincibility.  Not once after facing Skeith did any of the other phases of Morgana give me a sense of fighting a losing battle.
 
Have to agree with Covarr here. Chrono Trigger is badass in its entirety. Heck, someone who totally disliked RPGs tried Chrono Trigger and got addicted and kept playing. I was proud.

My favorite scene? Ragnarok busting up Lunatic Pandora. Second place goes to the whole transformation of Balamb Garden University, from the launch in the missile base to the landing in the sea.
 
WHUUT?  :D seriously the voice acting is one of the best things about ffx imo...it makes the whole way the story is told so much more powerful and alive.
No... I'm not trying to be awkward, but ff10 sucks! FFxii > ffx. The last good ff game imo: ff9! And i'm drunk as shit! ypur welcome!!
 
No... I'm not trying to be awkward, but ff10 sucks! FFxii > ffx. The last good ff game imo: ff9! And i'm drunk as shit! ypur welcome!!
I have to totally disagree.   :-D
 
10 vs 12 on voice acting alone, 12 least beats the shit out of 10. Not to mention most cs. Vaan vs Tidus is like comparing turd and poop, Imo. 12 is a hell less of an embarrassment. 12, In many cases not good, but, nevertheless, a better told story altogether.

Auron don't belong in this mess.
 
I prefer 12 over X too, then again I am a self-confessed Matsuno fanboy. As far as Squaresoft goes FFT, Vagrant Story, and FF12 are by far my favorites, although I prefer the first two gameplay-wise, and both have a plot that IMHO puts most of the main FFs to shame.
 
10 vs 12 on voice acting alone, 12 least beats the sh*t out of 10. Not to mention most cs. Vaan vs Tidus is like comparing turd and poop, Imo. 12 is a hell less of an embarrassment. 12, In many cases not good, but, nevertheless, a better told story altogether.

Auron don't belong in this mess.
This maybe due to how drunk you are but do you realize you are comparing people that had completely opposite exposure in the games?  You can't really say much about Vaan because the most dialogue he had was in the very beginning aside from that he barely interacted with the rest of the cast basically almost being non-existent which is what pissed me off about 12.
 
You can't really say much about Vaan because the most dialogue he had was in the very beginning aside from that he barely interacted with the rest of the cast basically almost being non-existent which is what pissed me off about 12.
This.   FFXII's script was bare-bones.  The character development was non existent, and for a Final Fantasy game that is a critical error.  Even among die hard FFXII fans I have debated this with there has been an acceptance that the story itself was completely lacking.  The voice acting might have been pretty good (at least Balthier), but the sound quality was poor, and the script was "Hey, we need to get to B, so let's get there!  YAY!"  The bosses in the game had nothing to do with the plot, because there wasn't one.  You'd be walking along when all of a sudden a big tree lizard attacked you for no reason other than "it's a boss" (I really thought we'd moved away from that sort of thing).

I don't want to get into a big debate about this but I guess that's what happens  ;D The game-play was lacklustre too imho.  Gambits took all the tactics and brainpower away from you; for 90% of the game I survived on 2 gambits as my characters mindlessly slashed away.  Random treasure was a silly idea. The areas were great but filled with nothing as you walked for miles on end, and sidequests and user input was down to a minimum. 

In FFX you get complete control of your characters and even Summons, you get little quirks with the limit breaks (like entering a code, or pressing button at correct time, or liming up slots).  There is nothing like this in XII.  It's just one long trudge, and the gamer comes second at all times.  Even the AI was lazy.  FFXII deploys the most lazy battle mechanic  too "Heaps of HP = harder".

It's a complete mystery to me how anyone puts this game above X... I've racked my brain over it a lot, but I haven't got an answer!  :-P  The only thing it beats X on imho is the graphics (and perhaps voice acting, which doesn't really count as part of a game anyway). Even the music has to go to X.
 
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