[PC] Mod manager - 7thHeaven (v1.54)

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I have a problem to modify a vanilla high-us.lgp (motorbike minigame). I can wrap files in a modified one but if the file is untouched the game crashes.
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Any change at all makes it crash? Do you have an example mod (and a savegame close to it would be useful!)

I can't get the patch tool to work now. I am getting multiple error popups followed by Windows needing to "close the program" due to crash.
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OK, I have not seen this error on my PC, but I think I know from the error message what the cause is. Next version will have a fix that I hope will solve this.
 
It could be something to do with the Macbook and Boot Camp. I don't know though, never touched an Apple before. What all mods are activated besides Field Textures?
 
@seijuro

You say this is for a friend? I assume then it's okay on your own computer, so you've got the files to provide for them in the mods\7th Heaven folder.

That's a bug on my end. I didn't compile the files correctly.

Motorbike Chase (Midgar and Gold Saucer) crash on all machines, but we've hopefully fixed it for 1.42. Looking into it still.

Can we move this discussion to the 7H Tutorial please? This thread is more for asking questions and bug fixing the tool. Also make sure to keep your questions in one spot rather than copy/paste the same thing in multiple threads.


@Iros

It looks like <ApplyPatch> is working, but I don't know how to get <Patch> to go. What it appears to do is download both the IRO and IROP at the same time, but since the IROP is smaller, it finishes first while the IRO finishes and installs afterwards. The IROP doesn't get applied though and remains in the temp folder as id_filename_patch0.iro.

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<?xml version="1.0"?><Catalog xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">   <Mods>   ## GAMEPLAY - DIFFICULTY AND STORY PATCH TEST    <Mod>      <ID>3caefc89-8908-4961-96cf-a2e7a7106a96</ID>      <Author>Qhimm Modding Community</Author>      <Link>https://www.ff7catalog.com/threads/10634/</Link>      <LatestVersion>        <Link>iros://MegaSharedFolder/#F!awJUhTqI!M-aUNnyOGn2wNenQXgjUEg,asRDDQYI,Gameplay - Difficulty and Story - v1.2.iro</Link>        <Link>iros://GDrive/0B-Q_AObuWRSXX1NKOHZraHl4N3c</Link>         <ApplyPatch>iros://GDrive/0B-Q_AObuWRSXYVFMZ2ozbk0xUzA</ApplyPatch>         <ExtractSubFolder></ExtractSubFolder>        <ExtractInto></ExtractInto>        <Version>1.3</Version>        <ReleaseDate>2015-01-20T00:00:00</ReleaseDate>        <CompatibleGameVersions>All</CompatibleGameVersions>        <PreviewImage>http://i.imgur.com/gOrwPYi.png</PreviewImage>        <ReleaseNotes/>        <DownloadSize>126976</DownloadSize>      </LatestVersion>       <Patch VerFrom="1.2" VerTo="1.3">iros://GDrive/0B-Q_AObuWRSXYVFMZ2ozbk0xUzA</Patch>       <MetaVersion>22</MetaVersion>      <Name>Gameplay - Difficulty and Story PATCH TEST</Name>      <Description>Various mods that alter the gameplay difficulty and story.</Description>      <Tags>        <string>gameplay</string>        <string>difficulty</string>        <string>story</string>      </Tags>    </Mod>   </Mods></Catalog>
Also, it looks like MEGA downloads are always giving the Error Downloading message now. Could this be bandwidth related? Thankfully Google Drive has worked okay for the backup link so far.
 
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Motorbike Chase (Midgar and Gold Saucer) crash on all machines, but we've hopefully fixed it for 1.42. Looking into it still.
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I can confirm that it is fixed now. :D
 
It looks like <ApplyPatch> is working, but I don't know how to get <Patch> to go. What it appears to do is download both the IRO and IROP at the same time, but since the IROP is smaller, it finishes first while the IRO finishes and installs afterwards. The IROP doesn't get applied though and remains in the temp folder as id_filename_patch0.iro.
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Hm, can you clarify? ApplyPatch is the tag for having a patch that is applied to a fresh install, is that the one you are seeing does not work?

I tried your test catalog / mod now and it applies the patch OK for me - but it doesn't delete the patch file afterwards which I guess is not ideal! But it did actually apply the patch.

Also, it looks like MEGA downloads are always giving the Error Downloading message now. Could this be bandwidth related? Thankfully Google Drive has worked okay for the backup link so far.
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Ah, this is actually a bug. They are not working for me either but I can fix this. I am not sure why they have suddenly stopped working really, but the code is definitely not correct - it was timing dependent (so might work or might not depending on how fast the Mega server was to respond). Next version will fix this.
 
Ahh, it's <ApplyPatch> I'm referring to then. What I did was first use that test catalog without any of the the patch links put in. I downloaded/installed and used that as my base version. Then I input the patch lines and updated the subscription. Bingo, it said there was an update and downloaded/installed with no error. Then I uninstalled all of it, and tried to download/install/patch without any base version installed yet. Bin...hmm, I get an error downloading message. The Download window showed both IRO and IROP being downloaded, but when I opened the IRO after it downloaded/installed, it still has 6,459 files inside the Sega Chief - New Threat\battle.lgp folder. I used the Patch Adv. to delete 126 files from it, so that folder should now only have 6,333 files. How many files are in yours?

https://www.ff7catalog.com/posts/178263/ --- I followed these directions for manually typing in the paths to be deleted.
 
I am not sure you have set up the paths to be deleted correctly: the first few files in the list to be deleted are

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New Threat - Sega Chief\rsaaNew Threat - Sega Chief\rsabNew Threat - Sega Chief\rsanNew Threat - Sega Chief\rsao
From the file name I am guessing that instead it should be:

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New Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsaaNew Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsabNew Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsanNew Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsao
Does that explain it?
 
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New Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsaaNew Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsabNew Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsanNew Threat - Sega Chief\battle.lgp\rsao
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This is how I typed in all 126 entries, from rsaa through smda.
 
This is how I typed in all 126 entries, from rsaa through smda.
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Then I am very confused, whatever you put in the 'files to delete' box should get stored straight in the patch without any changes, but the patch in your catalog does not contain the right paths :/ Can you try making the patch again?
 
Are there any known incompatibilities with the german version of FF7 and the Menu Overhaul mod in 7thHeaven?

My history:
I played a save with Bootleg before i have to go to the Shinra Tower.
Then I switched to 7thHeaven. In the Shinra Tower I did not fight against Sample: H0512 and later I did not have to fight against Hundred Gunner.
Later when you normally have to fight Rufus with Cloud I fought Sample: H0512 with only Cloud.
The next boss would be Motor Ball but I fought Hundred Gunner with the current party.

First I thought it is because of the change to 7thHeaven within a saved game. So I tried to start a new game.
But then the first fight against the two soldiers I have to fight against Yuffie which kills me with one attack.
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I made a few reinstall with clearing the registry with the tools from Tifa's Final Heaven every time but it did not help.

Next I tried to find the mod which causes the problem. When I only activated Menu Overhaul the problems occure.
Then I switched to the english version of FF7 and now all is working correctly

This is what Kaldarasha wrote in the Tifa's Final Heaven Thread as he decompressed the Menu Overhaul from 7th Heaven:
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Chunk 9 are the backgrounds, so they are not needed. The Kernels could have a wrong table for the scene.bin and are only important for the retranslation. I'm not sure if it was the intension to use the retranslation as well, but I would kick out the chunks (I guess chunk1 was actually the plan to use  ;)) and the both kernels and compile them to a separate mod.
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Hey EQ2Alyza I just PM'd you yesterday, not sure if you got it at all.

Just wanted to ask if you had a direct link to the 6.8gb field texture .iro file so I can download it manually via web browser and place the file in the folder manually. That's the only file that's giving me trouble via 7H, and I don't have it on any machine. Let me know when you can and feel free to PM it to me if you'd like. Thanks a bunch.
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I did get it. Be patient, I have a multiple PMs and working with Iros to get the tool ironed out :)

I'm not providing a personal download because I don't want to start any trend of giving them out. The Catalog serves as just that, and also installs/updates them for you, so you're taking those features away by not using the Catalog link. Giving a personal download also doesn't fix the problem you're facing. What if someone else runs into the same issue? If we resolve it now, we can then help others who may run into it.

Your issue has been posted in I believe three different threads, and you've sent a PM about it. The PM doesn't state the issue, and the previous postings have been edited for some reason, so I've kind of forgotten the exact issue now. Send me another PM please, and tell me exactly what happened.

Also, read below what I write to the other poster.

Are there any known incompatibilities with the german version of FF7 and the Menu Overhaul mod in 7thHeaven?

My history:
I played a save with Bootleg before i have to go to the Shinra Tower.
Then I switched to 7thHeaven. In the Shinra Tower I did not fight against Sample: H0512 and later I did not have to fight against Hundred Gunner.
Later when you normally have to fight Rufus with Cloud I fought Sample: H0512 with only Cloud.
The next boss would be Motor Ball but I fought Hundred Gunner with the current party.

First I thought it is because of the change to 7thHeaven within a saved game. So I tried to start a new game.
But then the first fight against the two soldiers I have to fight against Yuffie which kills me with one attack.
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I made a few reinstall with clearing the registry with the tools from Tifa's Final Heaven every time but it did not help.

Next I tried to find the mod which causes the problem. When I only activated Menu Overhaul the problems occure.
Then I switched to the english version of FF7 and now all is working correctly

This is what Kaldarasha wrote in the Tifa's Final Heaven Thread as he decompressed the Menu Overhaul from 7th Heaven:
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This is for seijuro as well, but please keep mod related questions over in the 7th Heaven Tutorial thread. This thread is specifically for the 7H tool, and Iros doesn't deal with any of the mod compiling that I've done for the Catalog. If there is something we can't answer over there, I'll talk with Iros specifically to see if it's tool related or just an error on my part when compiling the mod.

I responded to Kaldarasha in the other thread, so keep your eyes open over there as we work this out :)
 
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Sorry EQ2Alyza, I didn't know that.

Nevertheless thanks for the help  :D
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It's alright. No apologies needed :lol:


@Iros

Looks like I may have had a typo. I have the patch working now.

The download window isn't showing the blue progress bars while downloading. Can we fix this for the next release?

I noticed that when a patch downloads and installs, the id_name_ver.iro doesn't update its version. Is it possible to have that renamed to the current version after an update is installed?
 
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Hm, progress bars were annoying - Google has changed the way they respond to download requests which caused it to stop working. I have worked around this but it is annoying when things break and it was not even my code that was wrong  >:(

New version 1.43: https://mega.co.nz/#!XVEVjbBR!S3sNMQhc0IJh1iExqdBiXyP8pio-wEFjoJ-CcuFdwsU
-Fix progress bars on GDrive downloads
-Fix Mega downloads sometimes (often?) not working

@EQ2Alyza: I will look at renaming the files after download, it should be OK but I need to check that all the places storing the filename get updated, so perhaps in next version.
 
For some reason I'm getting a crash everytime I start it. Can you help me? Here's the log.
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System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys' threw an exception. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: There is an error in XML document (0, 0). ---> System.Xml.XmlException: Root element is missing.   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Throw(Exception e)   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.ParseDocumentContent()   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Read()   at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read()   at System.Xml.XmlReader.MoveToContent()   at Microsoft.Xml.Serialization.GeneratedAssembly.XmlSerializationReaderSettings.Read8_Settings()   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---   at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(XmlReader xmlReader, String encodingStyle, XmlDeserializationEvents events)   at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(Stream stream)   at Iros._7th.Util.Deserialize[T](Stream s) in c:\Iros\7thWrapperLib\Util.cs:line 10   at Iros._7th.Util.Deserialize[T](String file) in c:\Iros\7thWrapperLib\Util.cs:line 14   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys..cctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\Sys.cs:line 100   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys.get_Catalog()   at Iros._7th.Workshop.pTags.Init() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\pTags.cs:line 20   at Iros._7th.Workshop.pTags..ctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\pTags.cs:line 29   at Iros._7th.Workshop.fLibrary.InitializeComponent() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\fLibrary.Designer.cs:line 44   at Iros._7th.Workshop.fLibrary..ctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\fLibrary.cs:line 17   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Program.Main() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\Program.cs:line 18
 
Your settings.xml file - in the %APPDATA%\7thWorkshop folder - has been corrupted somehow. Delete it and you should be able to start 7H, but you will need to configure your paths etc again.
 
Your settings.xml file - in the %APPDATA%\7thWorkshop folder - has been corrupted somehow. Delete it and you should be able to start 7H, but you will need to configure your paths etc again.
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Probably because I had a bluescreen. Due to my.. Bad ways of handling USB stuff.
edit: deleting settings.xml didn't work. deleted the entire folder. Now I'm redownloading everything.
 
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