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Ya know pizza is good.. LoL just a joke there this is gonna be on topic.. I want to learn VC++ someday i will VB is kinda lame but its still kinda cool.. I am gonna check out Delphi.. I will probably have to have my friend download it aswell... he wont mind.. And my god programming in straight Binary? i guess someone had to do it though.. where would you even find an assembler for that? pretty crazy..
 
Well, you think about it; what are assembly compilers written in? The very first ones? Couldn't write them in assembler, at least not to start off with, because nobody's written assemblers yet  :wink: To start off with, everything had to be written in binary ... until someone used their l33t binary skillz to code an assembler.
 
All bow to the first great binary programmer!  
How he hath bettered our very existence!
How he hath - er - ah, done good stuff for us!*hmph*  I couldn't imagine trying to do that-just getting used to school after being out 8 years is bad enough.
 
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A lot of things today seem difficult because of the new was all of us are brought up in and educated.
Nowadays, most people have to use a calculator to crunch those big numbers.
What about the people who didn't use calculators back then?
It has been proven that the human mind is in fact able to calculate much faster than most computers. I'm not saying it applies to everyone, but I'm saying it's possible if we were brought up in the perfect conditions.
 
I remember that my friend has a friend  :) and he used to code in pure binary. But he was programming on Z80, and there are fewer instructions, so twas easier to memorize.Anyhow, I think its nothing more like learning some language. Just have to remember what number means what, and what will some combination do. I was not learning pure asm, and still i remember
$A8 $05 - mov ax, 5
$CD $21 - int 21h
and $DC was INC AX, or JMP ?.  :-?
If my memory serves me right.

Allhex: as far as i remember, there allways were these fights Pascal-fans vs C-fans.
I was pascal-fan, but then I got error message in pascal "Code segment too large" and I couldn't do anything with that, so I had to go to C++. Now I like them both. So fice, Im with you too. And I dont like M$

err: you surely have some crackers group somewhere near you, and they should have a Delphi in their list, so get it from them. Its the easiest way
 
Doesn't everyone think that its pretty cool how most C compilers are written in C.Poses the question "What came first, C or the C compiler?"

..Joke
 
Obviously the first compiler cannot come before the language itself  :)
 
Today's Java JIT compilers actually produce code that can be faster than C++ (with exceptions turned on and ALL functions declared virtual, that is) because JIT makes sure it is compile natively for the processor (like, if you have a P4 it will actually use all those exotice instructions...)However, I don't like Java as a language because it's quite inflexible compared to C++. And it isn't really more pure OO than C++ either, for REAL OO one should look to Smalltalk, Ruby and the like...

About binary compilers: Back in the old days people could write something in Fortran, compile it, and then if something was wrong they'd change it directly in binary rather than recompile...resulting in a complete mess of course, that's why there's still stories about it...

To do basic cracking one has to know about it anyway...changing 0x74 to 0x75 to change "if" to "if not" (or was it the other way around) is a trusted trick to get around shareware programs (in other words, you change the test to "if not registered" instead of "if registered" and get full access).
 
Well, that's how my patches to the FF7 EXE work to make it run in windowed mode, dump debug messages, or run in 32-bit colour; I just hacked some of the assembler code out, using the technique mentioned. FF7.EXE actually has run-in-a-window code in there, but it's only enabled in some kind of special "debug mode". So you just do what Dag says, and make it so it runs when you AREN'T in a special debug mode instead  :wink:
 
I just read in my Computing textbook that Bill Gates invented BASIC, how interesting.
 
That's not true. Bill Gates picked the source code for Basic up from the paper bin in a university where he was cleaning the floors.That says quite a lot: The only "programming" language that Bill Gates has ever claimed inventing, a very bad one as such, is in reality stolen.

Yeah I'm serious...because I've read it from people who also where dead serious, of course it *might* be an urban legend. But considering how he also stole DOS from his best friend I wouldn't consider it unlikely.

[This message has been edited by dagsverre (edited September 15, 2001).]
 
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