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DarkFang
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Cupcake
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I see no logical reason to believe in a god in today's day and age, and while I dislike religion as a whole, I fully respect the right of others to believe in a god/follow a religion. That being said, I do rather like the idea of the laws of physics that allow our universe to exist being called god.
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DarkFang
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^ That basically just summed everything up for me. I don't judge other people, unless they start something first.
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Vgr
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Everything was said I think for now. But unlike Cupcake, I hate people that believe in god(s). Don't even start me on it, it is like FFs or political vision, once I start I can't stop.
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Cupcake
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Believe me, the moment someone starts talking about god to me, I rip them a new asshole. Don't think for a second I just let it go. I won't talk to you about how I don't have an invisible man in the sky who sees everything everybody does, and if you do a few wrong things, will put you in a lake of fire for all eternity, if you don't talk to me about how you do. If you do talk to me about yours, believe me, I will fucking DESTROY you. Not to mention point out the various logical fallacies within your holy book of choice (I mean... COME ON, The bible contradicts itself within the first two fucking chaptersEverything was said I think for now. But unlike Cupcake, I hate people that believe in god(s). Don't even start me on it, it is like FFs or political vision, once I start I can't stop.
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DLPB_
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Religion. Once served a purpose, now serves none. Creates far too many problems, especially Islam, which is an ideology from a war-lord.
All of them are outdated (with exception of Buddhism which is strictly not in the same league).
All religions are man made and any that claim to be divine are lying. I personally believe in some form of higher power, however that does not mean I believe in fairy tales or after life or the man made deities in a few books. It is all man made rubbish.
We do not need telling what is right and wrong. Anybody who uses religion as a moral guide has a problem, not least because they are only behaving the way they do because they are being told to or are being offered some sort of reward.
The sooner religion dies out the better, however a large amount of people are stupid/naive and believe in Aliens visiting earth, 9/11 conspiracy theories and religion. It may take a very long time before we finally shed the last shackle.
All of them are outdated (with exception of Buddhism which is strictly not in the same league).
All religions are man made and any that claim to be divine are lying. I personally believe in some form of higher power, however that does not mean I believe in fairy tales or after life or the man made deities in a few books. It is all man made rubbish.
We do not need telling what is right and wrong. Anybody who uses religion as a moral guide has a problem, not least because they are only behaving the way they do because they are being told to or are being offered some sort of reward.
The sooner religion dies out the better, however a large amount of people are stupid/naive and believe in Aliens visiting earth, 9/11 conspiracy theories and religion. It may take a very long time before we finally shed the last shackle.
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Vgr
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Religion is fucking shit. If there was a god, then there were not wars, hungry people and so on... at vitam eternam...
DLPB, I hate you! Why? Because you said everything I wanted to say, and, moreover, you stayed calm!!!
Ok, I'm gonna say what I loooooove to say :
RELIGION IS FUCKIN SHIT AND SHITIN FUCK WITH SHIT FUCK AND FUCK SHIT!!!!!
Ok, lets stop it now...
DLPB, I hate you! Why? Because you said everything I wanted to say, and, moreover, you stayed calm!!!
Ok, I'm gonna say what I loooooove to say :
RELIGION IS FUCKIN SHIT AND SHITIN FUCK WITH SHIT FUCK AND FUCK SHIT!!!!!
Ok, lets stop it now...
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DarkFang
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Maybe this was a bad idea, lol.
My thoughts are, if there was a higher power or a God, they have since then deceased. If you view the world today, there's absolutely no chance there is a God that wants peace and all the evil to be vanquished.
My thoughts are, if there was a higher power or a God, they have since then deceased. If you view the world today, there's absolutely no chance there is a God that wants peace and all the evil to be vanquished.
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Vgr
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Chuck Norris > All
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DLPB_
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That does not go against the idea. In fact, if a god were to intervene it would fundamentally affect free will. For good to exist, bad also has to exist. If a god was to be fair, it would not be allowed to intervene.Maybe this was a bad idea, lol.
My thoughts are, if there was a higher power or a God, they have since then deceased. If you view the world today, there's absolutely no chance there is a God that wants peace and all the evil to be vanquished.
Unfortunately, this also means that if a higher power created the universe etc, it didn't care that there would be a lot of suffering in its world. But this is assuming that thought is the same for a higher power as it is for us.
Certainly, whatever the truth is, it is way beyond what a human can comprehend. On that I can be completely sure.
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xLostWingx
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Completely Unrelated is littered with posts of my views. Actually, its better if I don't say anything.
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obesebear
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Something created the universe. Why? Because the laws as we know them and have experienced expressly declare that something can't just form from nothing. It is impossible.
I think that for any religion to be taken seriously, it needs to understand God, not as a being of pure good, but rather one who is completely just. One who did create both good and bad, but also bestowed reason and logic for us to differentiate between the two. If there is an after life, it only makes sense that we would be judge based on our actions here. And given that we know the difference between good and bad, would somehow be held accountable. I have yet to decide how I feel about an afterlife though.
A lake of fire? I doubt it. An eternal paradise? Also doubtful. But to think EVERYTHING in the universe was all by chance is completely ludicrous at this point in our understanding.
I think that for any religion to be taken seriously, it needs to understand God, not as a being of pure good, but rather one who is completely just. One who did create both good and bad, but also bestowed reason and logic for us to differentiate between the two. If there is an after life, it only makes sense that we would be judge based on our actions here. And given that we know the difference between good and bad, would somehow be held accountable. I have yet to decide how I feel about an afterlife though.
A lake of fire? I doubt it. An eternal paradise? Also doubtful. But to think EVERYTHING in the universe was all by chance is completely ludicrous at this point in our understanding.
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Masa-Buster
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I myself am Wicca/Wiccan whatever you wanna call it.
Though the religions that believe in "God" don't deserve to be flamed on etc, it's just what they believe but there is one religion that should burn in the deepest pit of hell. Scientology NEVER understood that religion -.-
If there is any proof of a higher being or anything as such, like say one day say there's a God-On-Earth scenario, I'll HAPPILY start believing in God.
Though the religions that believe in "God" don't deserve to be flamed on etc, it's just what they believe but there is one religion that should burn in the deepest pit of hell. Scientology NEVER understood that religion -.-
If there is any proof of a higher being or anything as such, like say one day say there's a God-On-Earth scenario, I'll HAPPILY start believing in God.
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Cupcake
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I myself am Wicca/Wiccan whatever you wanna call it.
Got it, so a religion formed because someone saw pagan religions and went "OH COOL" and formed one on a power trip in England in the early 20th century, is more valid than one that was formed in the mid 20th century for money.Scientology NEVER understood that religion -.-
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Kemlin
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Agnostic. Intellectually, I cannot confirm nor deny the existence of a monotheistic God.
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Kudistos Megistos
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The world's favourite mental illness. The stronger the religious belief, the sicker the mind.What are your views?
To see it in its purest form, watch some of the videos made by a certain man who has just died. Remember that suicide bombers are the most devout people on the planet.
ohboyherewegoagain.jpgAgnostic. Intellectually, I cannot confirm nor deny the existence of a monotheistic God.
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xLostWingx
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As far as I know, modern Wicca is a different animal than centuries old paganism. I actually wrote a research paper on it like 7 years ago.
There is a thick grey line between mental illness and religious belief. Your everyday believer does not qualify for any mental illness based on those beliefs alone.
As far as afterlife is concerned, maybe our conciousness/soul is absorbed into the infinite conciousness/divine energy of "God". The question is whether we retain our individuality in any afterlife - it would be nice, but probably doesn't happen that way.
There is a thick grey line between mental illness and religious belief. Your everyday believer does not qualify for any mental illness based on those beliefs alone.
As far as afterlife is concerned, maybe our conciousness/soul is absorbed into the infinite conciousness/divine energy of "God". The question is whether we retain our individuality in any afterlife - it would be nice, but probably doesn't happen that way.
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Kudistos Megistos
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Yes it is.As far as I know, modern Wicca is a different animal than centuries old paganism. I actually wrote a research paper on it like 7 years ago.
Wicca takes bits from the various old European religions (which had very little in common) and keeps the bits it likes whilst ignoring the bits it doesn't like.
The fact that religion gets off so lightly is due only to political correctness and the unwarranted respect that religion is given in religious and recently religious societies.There is a thick grey line between mental illness and religious belief. Your everyday believer does not qualify for any mental illness based on those beliefs alone.
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xLostWingx
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If you mean in general, then I would say pretty much the same thing, except not quite as strongly. If you mean in regards to mental illness, most diagnostic models require that beliefs/behaviors/symptoms be responsible for some clinically significant impairment of functioning. This is why someone can be a narcissist without having Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Religious beliefs can be categorized as 'bizarre' or 'magical' beliefs from a diagnostic perspective, but only the Westborough Baptist's, suicide bombers, and the like would be considered to have a Mental Illness based on their *religious beliefs. But you must admit there is a distinction between what religion means to these people, and what religion means to non-psychotic/secularized believer.The fact that religion gets off so lightly is largely dueonlyto political correctness and the unwarranted respect that religion is given in religious and recently religious societies.
Given that I agree with a lot of your projection of human development in the coming decades/centuries, I imagine that there will be a time in the future where religious beliefs will be considered mental illness, but realize that the label of "mentally ill" is, and has been constantly transforming for thousands of years.
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yarLson
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you might wanna be careful with that.say one day say there's a God-On-Earth scenario, I'll HAPPILY start believing in God.
it could end up being an elaborate rouse using holographic techonology to make you think god has returned when it fact its nothing more than a sattelite projection
Project Blue Beam for example
not that I necissarily believe such a plot exists, but I wouldn't put it past the idiotic American admin
as for religion, well I have a very unique belief system, but after observing numerous photos from the hubble telescope and seeing all the majestic shapes and paterns of the stars and galaxies. I wouldn't be suprised if natural structures have some form of consciousness of their own, such as a galaxy or galactic cluster. I came to this conclusion after realizing that the galaxies align very similarly to how the inside of our bodies aligns. Our bodies are made up of trillions of life forms, I wouldn't be shocked if all these epic star systems collectively form some kind of supreme universal consciousness, or God if you will just as the cells of our bodies come together to form us. However this is about as far I can go into the matter without sounding terribly insulting to religious institutions the world over.
In short I don't like it, its an outdated concept and it ruins lives, justifies wars, encourages ignorance etc. I believe we will either abandon these old story book concepts of religion and replace them with our own investigative objectivism (science) at some time in the near future, or we will face the destruction of the human race, or the return of the stone age at best. Just my opinion
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