Running Glitch Meta Bitching

[stormmedia]

I'm not discussing the rules here.  Not at all.  In fact I think they are really fair and I try to follow them the better I can.

Now, I'd like to quote these right from the rules's thread:



Here the rules talking about spelling:
"Please try to use good spelling and grammer.  Don't run round the house looking for that old, dusty dictionary you've never used if there's a word too difficult to spell, just try and spell as well as you can"

It is clairly wrote :"just try and spell as well as you can".  So ice_cold513 didn't broke this rule at all (exept maybe for ponctuation).




"Don't insult people about anything unless you have a good reason to. Report to an administrator or a moderator if someone has insulted and/or threatened you."

I don't think that the way someone write or think is reason enough to insult people so, unless you say that the rules doesn't apply to you(which I'm certain you will say something like that) you broke this rule several times here even being an moderator.  However it might be reason enough to warn them.




Another interesting rule here:
"Try to understand what people are trying to say if they have a different opinion to you, or are trying to give you some friendly advice.  Shouting back at them really doesn't help at all, you just get less respect and chances are your opinions will be ignored in the future."

Think I'll skip the comment here, I'm pretty sure everyone knows exactly where I'm getting at anyway.




These rules are the basic of any good forum(including those I didn't quote of course)  and I follow those rules and respect them.  Jari however doesn't seem to follow any rules implying respect which are the base of any discution, thus the base of any forums.  I think a lack of respect is a lot worst than a lack of grammar don't you?  (Well... I guess I already know your answer about that, but anyway...)

 

[Jari]

I had a long post written, but your whining is not worth it.

I'm going to point out just two things, one; if you really believe that ice_cold513 spells as well as he can, you are the most gullible person ever born, and two; how nice of you to quote rules for users. Written when the browsers hadn't even heard of spell checkers, by the way.

Do you understand the basic difference between a moderator and an user? One obeys the rules, the other makes the users obey the rules. Sadly, considering that there are several asshats amongst the users - as proven also by this thread - moderators can't just pat the asshats on the head and ask them nicely.

Sometimes, like right now, the users are simply too stupid for it.

And for the rest of your whining; I've listened it for nearly three days already. That's three days more than you'd get at most forums. I've graciously given you a platform to voice your concerns. In this time you haven't managed to come up with a single valid point.

Your original ones were complete bogus. When that was proven, you have tried to come up with new ones, each weaker than the previous.

Enough is enough. If you still have issues, click that PM icon next to Qhimm's name and ask for his opinion.

 

[RPGillespie]

stormmedia and ice_cold513: It almost seems as though your posts are getting even more erroneous and confusing as this topic progresses.  Just try to make your sentences as clear as possible, because even I am having trouble following your arguments.  You are probably doing this to provoke Jari, so stop.

stormmedia: You need to use punctuation. This I absolutely agree with. Even if you can't conjugate verbs properly, it is 10x easier to read what you are writing if you simply punctuate your sentences (Yes, you have been getting better at this as the topic has progressed).

Jari: I think that profane language in most cases is a worse offense than bad spelling; maybe you could tone it down just a little. Just my opinion of course.

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Firefox 2 (and probably IE7) has an amazing spell checker built in that underlines words that have been misspelled in red. Simply right-click the word, and the correct spelling will usually pop-up (unless you have horribly butchered the word beyond recognition).

The following words, save "discution," have the correct spelling on Firefox's spell-check list (taken from stormmedia's earlier post):
clairly -> clearly
ponctuation -> punctuation
exept -> except
grammer -> grammar
discution -> discussion

I'm by no means bashing on you stormmedia, I'm just showing the powerful capabilities of a spell-checking browser.

-RPGillespie

 

[spyrojyros_tail]

Wow, fuck sake jari, stop being so anal.

Stormmedia, well said! Jari cannot ignore the base rules of this forum, and i could always read your posts and ice_colds posts without too much deciphering so i dont know what the big deal is.

Jari you may think that your doing a good job by keeping the grammar rules to your high standards but your actually fucking it up. If i was a newbie in here and I had your "negative reinforcement" then i really wouldnt want to come back to a forum full of assholes, first impressions are really important.

But the one thing that i cant understand is this, this is a final fantasy VII forum, which has released some killer mods and applications, through the spare time and hard work of many people in this forum... stommedia and ice_cold have both been working their asses off with the new NPC patch which so far looks great! And its these things, rather than your strict ass grammar rules, that bring people to this site over and over.

Dont get me wrong, your entertaining in yourself and pretty much everyone brings something cool to this forum, but you cannot start bitching at everyone that doesnt meet your grammar standards. Some people can deal with a comma missing or no full stop, grammar should be policed, but not the way your doing it, your being an asshole. Oh and "negative reinforcement" is bullshit, not when your trying to build a community built on friendship and a love for all things final fantasy. Christ final fantasy ROCKS!!!!

(Oh and dont threaten people with PMing qhimm, hes a nice guy and probably would care if people were not enjoying his forum because of some anal guy...)

 

[Jari]

Jari you may think that your doing a good job by keeping the grammar rules to your high standards but your actually f***ing it up. If i was a newbie in here and I had your "negative reinforcement" then i really wouldnt want to come back to a forum full of assholes, first impressions are really important.

That's okay, we wouldn't want you, either.  :-D

(Oh and dont threaten people with PMing qhimm, hes a nice guy and probably would care if people were not enjoying his forum because of some anal guy...)

Why, it's not threatening if that's true, is it? :-D So, by all means, click it and we'll see. You are not scared, are you? Since you seem to be sure of what he thinks and so forth. Click it, buddy. Click click. :-D

 

[stormmedia]

stormmedia and ice_cold513: It almost seems as though your posts are getting even more erroneous and confusing as this topic progresses. 

Well I didn't think my lastest posts was that confusing.  Sorry if it's the case.  In fact, in my last posts, I tried to get the better english I can.  Not being a native english speaker myself it's possible that I made mistakes.  I'm sorry if those mistakes was that big that you couldn't read the posts.

(Yes, you have been getting better at this as the topic has progressed).

Thanks!! Although I thought my posts were getting even more erroneous and confusing as this topic progresses, like you said earlier.  But thanks anyway .

Jari: I think that profane language in most cases is a worse offense than bad spelling; maybe you could tone it down just a little. Just my opinion of course.

Yep exactly what I think dude .

The following words, save "discution," have the correct spelling on Firefox's spell-check list (taken from stormmedia's earlier post):
clairly -> clearly
ponctuation -> punctuation
exept -> except
grammer -> grammar
discution -> discussion

Well, sorry about those... must be some typo I didn't noticed.  (the Spell Check is kinda buggy here... don't know why)

I'm by no means bashing on you stormmedia, I'm just showing the powerful capabilities of a spell-checking browser.

I know you don't.  This is the kind of notice that I find constructive.  You just trying to help me to have better english so the forums can be cleaner.  You didn't wrote some kind of:"Hey are you outta your f***ing mind to write those words like that, you little worthless asshat".  You see Jari you don't have to always use some insulting words to get the message done.  RPGillespie did it in a perfectly polite way, and I understood.

 

[halkun]

I.... Uh....

What on earth is going on here?

 

[Midgar]

I.... Uh....

What on earth is going on here?

What else but:

Jari, its nice to see that someone here like to enforce rules but come on now! They post once and they leave forever. In fact I bet the person in question doesn't give two diet pepsis for whatevers happening here. I would understand if they continued but you know, they're gone.

 

[stormmedia]

halkun:
Well... short version would be: I said to Jari what I think about his way of insulting people instead of just telling them what's wrong in there posts.  And then, some b*tching because Jari took it as an insult (which wasn't my intention). And then some people came by to say hello and what they have to say about it. (very short version)

 

[ChaosControl]

Lol, don't worry be happy!

I'm on another forum (forum.fok.nl) which is ranked 10th biggest board on the planet and I never ever see mods whine on trivial things as these.. I guess thats what makes a board great, a nice community without asshats (not reffering to anyone specific).

 

[Jari]

halkun:
Well... short version would be: I said to Jari what I think about his way of insulting people instead of just telling them what's wrong in there posts.  And then, some b*tching because Jari took it as an insult (which wasn't my intention). And then some people came by to say hello and what they have to say about it. (very short version)

Come on now, be honest. :-D

Don't you mean that you are desperately seeking revenge for this thread?

You know, the one over which you and your buddies complained to Qhimm, but he apparently didn't lift a finger? :-D (You think that we don't talk about these things? How silly of you.) Must have made a big dent on your ego, that one.

Or was it this thread?

It must hurt to be always wrong.

Pwned.

I'm sorry that I can't make you smarter. But as long as you continue to make an ass out of yourself - for all the wrong reasons - and then pretend that you have issues with this or that, just to get some inane teenage revenge... you are not going to have a least bit of credibility.

You understand that I knew all this when you started to bitch, yes? And yet I gave you a chance. Which you used for more inane bitching, and could not come with a valid point even if the said point had dragged you up.

You have had your chance now. If you still have some bitching left in you, contact Qhimm, like I told you. But you won't do that, because you know that it will end just like it did the last time.

So, simply... get lost.

 

[ChaosControl]

This topic isn't about shit in another topic anymore. It has become a topic to "pwn" or flame eachother.
I think this is enough, honestly, what good will come from this?

You can, offcourse, keep going into what Jari says but eventually you'll get banned or get pissed and leave, or Jari gets pissed and leaves (again..) and then we wouldn't have a mod anymore!!

*cuts wrists*

Remember kids, this is just a forum to develope tweaks/patches/Q-Gears, the off-topic part is meant to have a little fun on the side.
Or am I completely wrong?

Anyway, my advice for stormmedia and Jari is to let it rest before you go cutting wrists.

(You people should definatly listen more SKA!)

 

[stormmedia]

SKA  :-D hehe.  Anyway.  Just want to add Jari: Think what you want I don't care.  If your defence is to make everyone think that it got something to do with those thread, fair enough.  But just wanted to tell you that I'm not rancorous at all,  especially in a forum.  So believe me or not about this, I don't care.  As ChaosControl said this topic has become a topic to "pwn" or flame eachother, so there is no reason to keep it alive.  Anyway you know my opinion you always knew: "Just try to use word that insult a little less the people" that's all.  I know you won't, but anyway...