Some people shouldn't be allowed to have children

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He means, 'one should not speak ill of one's family'.

Tend to disagree on three points,
a) the forum is semi-anonymous,
b) our sentiments aren't going to affect JS's father
c) if they did, we'd be in a context where the man could (and should) defend himself
at the risk of continuing off track, my dad could never defend himself verbally :P but there's a reason he ends up in a jail cell for the night all the time.


anyway, what i'm saying is that parents aren't always the deciding factor
 
They seem okay.  There are far worse things to do to your children, than let them decide what gender they want to be
Oh, but they're doing far more than that. They're depriving the child of a normal upbringing and therefore making it disabled. If their children have to be shut away from evil society, however are they going to integrate into that society in the future? When (if?) they ever fly the nest, they'll have a massive culture shock and they won't know how they're expected to behave; this will result in an increased risk of being the victim of violent attacks and bullying and a deceased chance of finding a partner or doing well in their career. They'll be like homeschooled children, but 10 times worse.

Their only chance is if someone sets up a commune for people like them and they don't have to deal with the general population.
 
All your talk about integration into society is bullshit.  It's meant to create people who will respect authority for it's own sake, out of ingrained habit.  The world won't end if more people thought their gov't was full of shit.
O RLY?

Most people want to have a partner an raise a family. This requires having a job, unless you're the heir to a massive fortune, and having a decent job requires a decent education. This all requires having a basic knowledge of how your society works. If you don't have that, you'll have a very hard time, unless your goals in life are to live in your parents' basement and play FF7 all day.

I said that their situation would be more extreme than that of home-schooled children; these kids have no opportunity to learn the norms of society. Their parents probably teach them the opposite of how to function in society.

If you don't learn enough to at least pay lip service to social norms and you're not a fantastically lucky or talented super-genius, you'll be a permanently single career underachiever at best, and at worst you'll have to live in the forest foraging for nuts. You might meet Hermoor.
 
People who are homeschooled are better equipped to do those things.  So, if homeschooling your kids and allowing them to acquire their values from their parents better equips a child to function in modern society than our public school system does, then taking that to an extreme - letting their child experiment and eventually chose it's own gender - should be more so.  Mostly because it allows the child to learn about themselves, and what makes them happy, so they can make rational decsions later in life as to what they want to do with their life.
BECAUSE THE EXTREME OF A GOOD THING IS ALWAYS AN EVEN BETTER THING!

DOCTORS RECOMMEND DRINKING A GLASS OF WINE A DAY, SO I'LL DRINK 100 GLASSES. THAT WILL BE 100 TIMES BETTER!
 
Ah ha ha, I was waiting for that.  Thanks for making me smile.

When it comes to happiness, you can go as extreme as you want, provided it doesn't impact the happiness of others.
But you can't.

Or rather, acting however the hell you want will always cause trouble with other people some way or another, and those other people will want to modify your behaviour, thus making you less happy.
 
Getting what you want isn't the secret to happiness.  If it was, then Paris Hilton would be the happiest person on the fucking planet.
She doesn't get everything she wants.

She wants love and respect. She gets neither. Because she's a spoilt fucktard.
 
I get happiness out of causing severe physical pain to others.  I should go for extreme happiness.
 
Exactly.  And who do we blame for that?  Her parents.
Exactly. And why are her parents failures?

Because they raised her in a bubble away from the real world and never taught her how to behave. As a result, she goes around pissing people off and people hate her.

No matter how much money she has, it must bother her that she is so widely hated and ridiculed.

This genderless child will, like Paris Hilton, end up being a figure of fun to all of its peers when it grows up. Everyone who doesn't beat it up for being different will laugh at it for not knowing social norms.

And as I said earlier, this child isn't really getting the freedom to choose. It is being influenced by its parents, even if they're not trying to influence it. I'll wager that their influences will cause it to be a less functional member of society, since they are likely to unwittingly encourage behaviours that will be troublesome in the real world.

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Cupcake, you silly boy.

Do you really think anyone will believe that Hermoor managed to correctly spell the name of a mythological figure? You should have spelt it "Hermvgpkisfdjlkgnfd". Then we might have believed that it was him.
 
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Cupcake, you silly boy.

Do you really think anyone will believe that Hermoor managed to correctly spell the name of a mythological figure? You have have spelt it "Hermvgpkisfdjlkgnfd". Then we might have believed that it was him.
I'm bored and his name came up in discussion on IRC.

No, you should find a submissive.
Not as fun when the reactions aren't genuine.
 
Not as fun when the reactions aren't genuine.
What makes you think the reactions aren't genuine?

Make no mistake; most subs don't have an especially high pain threshold, and they dislike it at the same time as liking it.
 
What makes you think the reactions aren't genuine?

Make no mistake; most subs don't have an especially high pain threshold, and they dislike it at the same time as liking it.
They always just seem so faked to me.  Also, it seems like we're talking about getting sexual pleasure out of this.  I meant hurting people just makes me happy.  Like... smiling-after-smashing-your-face-in-with-a-brick happy, not cum-on-your-face-after-smashing-it-in-with-a-brick happy.
 
Do you really think anyone will believe that Hermoor managed to correctly spell the name of a mythological figure? You have have spelt it "Hermvgpkisfdjlkgnfd". Then we might have believed that it was him.
I admit it, I laughed a little.
 
I don't think homeschooling equates to social awkwardness.
As long as your kids are involved in community sports, groups, etc they will still have ample interaction with peers.
There are also network homeschooling options. You can have a group of parents working together, with designated subjects. You can print curricula for coursework covered each year, and create your lesson plans following regulated standards.
When being homeschooled, kids are never held up by "slow learners" in the class. And if they have trouble grasping something, they are provided individual attention.

Obviously it's not for everyone. I doubt I'd have time or money to stay at home and teach my own children, if I had them. But it's not necessarily a life-debilitating decision.
If you're smart, but live somewhere without good education options. Rather than send your kids off to sub-par schools, you can ensure a good education.
 
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