[SPOILERS] FF7 remake discussion time!

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fern me, I shouldn't have read that. If it's true though, sounds dope as hell. I'm sure crybabies will still moan about it not being a 1:1 copy of the original though. Entertaining tears are sure to follow.

No offense.
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This game will be interesting to say the least. I'm certainly morbidly curious.
 

This video explains what happened during development on this “Remake” perfectly. LOL. Glad to see fans making their voices heard. Square-Enix can’t be allowed to get away with this.
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This is indeed spot on
 
Hahahaha! Man I can't stop laughing...
Some reviews are out, and they are generally ¤%&#¤ SE's d#%&.

I really don't want to single people out, but this was too precious not to share:
This guy is talking about how awesome the story is while showing the most ridiculous DBZ/Matrix scene.
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Nothing personal, it's just sooo dumb, I have no words.
 
Yup and this is why the Final Fantasy franchise has been ruined since FFX. It’s just not even worth talking about anymore I give up on this company and all it’s new games. Square will continue to make horrible games and these idiots who support them will continue to do so and defend them to the end so it just is what it is. The true fans can only finally throw in the towel and let this company die off with time. We always have our SquareSoft masterpieces to enjoy the new age of “fans” will never understand that.
 
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Someone watched too much of the "The Flash" series

What the f*uck exactly is going on, is this Jenova reassembling herself or time is going backwards and then throwing a meteor... duh! I was hoping at least to watch Zack fighting all those troops sniff  :'( :'(
 
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Also, anyone else noticed how the big gaming reviews are
massively understating these changes
?  Once again, slapping 8,9,10 on it and glossing over it with their verbose waffle.  Every time.  Can't expect any of them to be truthful.  The verdict will come from the end user as always - gonna be fun.  I'm already seeing huge backlash.


I think the biggest issue with changing the story, is Nomura isn't a good writer at all. I would go as far as to say this is probably a case of someone's ego getting in the way. Nomura probably looked at the story of FFVII and thought "You know what? I can do better." Which is insane and stupid for two reasons:

1. FFVII's story is great as is and at most would only need certain elements fleshed out more to deliver a better experience.
2. Fans have been asking for almost two decades for a remake of the original game, just with modern technology. Then after years of teasing, blue balling, and flip flopping on whether or not they'd remake it, they finally decide to do it, with thunderous applause.

So to drastically change the story is just an insane move, and to be frank, in bad taste imo. I wonder how many people involved in making this game thought this was a bad idea, but couldn't do or say anything. But more to the point, IF Nomura had a track record of being a well respected and talented writer, I think a lot of people disappointed that this isn't a true remake, would be willing to give it a chance and see where it goes. But Nomura isn't a good writer. He's the kind of writer who just does whatever comes to his mind, without thinking about how coherent and logical the overall narrative would be as a result of it.

What we're probably going to get from this whole thing, is a great roleplaying game, but an absolutely butchered retelling of FFVII's story. And unfortunately, as fun as FFVII was to play, it was the story and characters that made people fall in love with it.
 
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To be fair, he was pretty chill in the original when the party meets him in the Shinra HQ, then when the party randomly runs into him in Costa Del Sol, when he first witnessed that WEAPON were real and even when he was about to blow Midgar (and himself up) with the cannon.
He wasn't really "afraid" of anything, quite the opposite so... THAT one reaction is not really out of character for Hojo.
 
Maybe they are just thinking of creating a cross over with the DC Universe or a future DC/Marvel crossover game like they did with Kingdom Hearts and Disney. I know it sounds stupid but as I can judge by this video those ghosts remind me so much of The Flash timeforce ghosts
 
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Even if I've not completely finished the original game, I've gone deep into the research of FFVII's storyline and watched most of the gameplay and walkthroughs of all different FFVII versions like DOC, Crisis Core, AC movie throughout all those years before the remake. I've never noticed any reference in any time ghosts in the original storyline, even in the rest of the versions that came out and by watching this for a first time my immediate reaction was jaw-dropping and giggling which means that it's rejected by my subconsciousness  and looks, if nothing else, ridiculous.

I would be amazed though if there was a nice directed cutscene with Zack fighting all the troops and dropping down like a real hero or a realistic scenario of Cloud wondering around the city after the bombing mission instead of getting pointless Sephiroth visions with no connection to each other and with meaningless hints that Sephiroth is about to return for restoring his former bad actions from the Crisis Core story. Which also makes you wonder in which way are they going to connect all this with the AC story where Sephiroth is merely evil!
 
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:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D  Hahahaha  tell me it's a late April fools?  Sounds like another bad Terminator movie.
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If this is true then i won't really like the game that much. I disliked most of the compilations for not looking or being like the original.

A remake should be true to the original, not to the compilations.
 
Alright, so this game is not at all what was expected after reading some of the early leaks, and the marketing has been completely deceptive. Massive spoilers, of course.
So, the "remake" is essentially a sequel to the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII that involves a future Sephiroth traveling back in time to undo what lead to his demise in the original game, including undoing Zack's death in the outskirts of Midgar.  The "ghosts" seen in the trailers are there to prevent the original timeline from being disrupted, and any action Cloud takes that influences a divergence in the timeline, like almost dealing a fatal blow to Reno in the Sector 5 Church, is physically prevented. They're present because Sephiroth has already arrived in the timeline at that point, and the game ends with Sephiroth tricking Cloud and co into killing these Watchmen and severing the chains of fate, leading to an unknown future, and in turn entirely different sequels post-Midgar.

In my opinion, this is better than just unfaithfully remaking the game. It's a sequel that requires full knowledge of the original game and extended universe. It doesn't serve to "replace" anything for a younger audience after all.
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If this is true then they've been totally inspired by the DragonBall Z Xenoverse games.

I really dislike that type of format. Instead they should just make the game the original timeline.. I don't think the second or third games will succeed if they take this route. Frankly that's not a remake of the story everyone wanted to see in modern graphics.

The first part is good or even great as far as i can tell, but if they go down this route it will not be a good thing.
 
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This review of the “Remake” is spot on with everything that is presented. Make sure to support this guy and share your thoughts on the video. I wonder if the fan base all comes together to let Square know that this is NOT what we as fans wanted if they will cave and take all this stupid stuff out via a update or something and just go back to the original story? I think it’s a strong possibility honestly if the backlash is great enough.
 
Let me explain what i've seen in reviews (spoilerfree) and in trailers that i didn't like and why:

1. Sephiroth showing up in the first scene with Aerith as a clear hint at what's to come. Let's just say that i don't like when they hint at later events. This is true for more scenes than the scene with Aerith- It's a mistake in my honest opinion to spoil future events in later titles by having Sephiroth be present in scenes where he wasn't originally. Most people know of Aerith's fate but there are still the new players who might not know about it- that's why that scene is spoiling things for the new audience if they didn't know. That ruins one of the most impactful moments.

And just to be clear this goes for any other story-element hinted at as well. Like the clip above with Hojo telling Cloud something about his past. That shouldn't be revealed until much later and i didn't like how it's spoiled early because SE thinks everyone knows about it already. They're ruining the original surprises by going ahead of themselves thinking new players know everything. I don't think they do. And it's unfortunate if they wanted the same surprises that we got back in 1997.

2. Those things connected to time doesn't have a place in the game. That's just screaming they're there to mess up the original timeline. And no-one asked for the original timeline or story to be messed up obviously. It's all fine to enhance the original story, add more scenes like for example the scene in the second trailer where you see a glimpse of Tseng when he kidnaps Aerith in exchange for Marlene - that's the type of additional story everyone would like to see more of. An event that happened in the original but that were never shown. I can only praise Square Enix for adding scenes like that to enhance the original story. - But to have time watchers that disrupts the story is to take away from the original. They just weren't needed at all.

Final Fantasy VII Remake will never stand a chance against FF7 Original if they mess up the original timeline. Then it will go from a true remake to a compilation sequel fan-service that will quickly be forgotten as a failed attempt to remake a classic.

Also, as a final point - FF7R can only challenge FF7 whenever it's a full story. When all the three parts are finished and released they could challenge the original. But if they've messed up the timeline it won't stand a chance.


On a final note i didn't enjoy how you could only give the flower to one character now. I see no problem with the second option of the original.
 
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This review of the “Remake” is spot on with everything that is presented. Make sure to support this guy and share your thoughts on the video. I wonder if the fan base all comes together to let Square know that this is NOT what we as fans wanted if they will cave and take all this stupid stuff out via a update or something and just go back to the original story? I think it’s a strong possibility honestly if the backlash is great enough.
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Given what happened with Final Fantasy XV's story, an update isn't totally out of the realm of possibility. It's probably not gonna happen though. The best you could hope for is future Remake installments edging back towards the original story,
 
One thing i think is really bad is Sephiroth's hair in the Remake. He used to be the best looking character, heck even the chibi model had better hairstyle - he should have two bits pointing out. Now he looks like a girl which is lame.

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Back in high school i literally couldn't think of a more bad-ass character in a videogame. Most of it was due to the hairstyle seen in the picture above.

In the Remake he has a woman's hairstyle. The coolness is gone.. It's like realistic isn't always good.

His clothes are spot-on but not his hair.

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His face is also wrong.

What's wrong with your faaaaaaace!
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Yes, and his face is the same as in Advent Children i believe.

I were never positive to his looks in any of the compilation games.. Either it was the hairstyle, or it was the clothes.

His face is way more "manly" in the old anime art. They should have kept it manly.
 
i actually hate the Cloud model as well, looks more like Tidus than Cloud IMO

but the sephiroth one is even worse, i feel like i could bitchslap that dude to the ground, and i'm supposed to believe he can blow up a planet?
 
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