Am I the only one who noticed APZ's Cloud's face being ripped straight from Dissidia? :?
You mean just like it wasn't?
I dunno, definately doesn't look like it to me. It's similar, but not identical.
Ugh, you're right, he Just shopped it. And to think, it was Apz that inspired me to start original creations...
EDIT: I've just been informed that dissidia was released
after Apz released his model.
xD maybe Square stole it off him? Or maybe he actually works for SE, and was the artist of that texture sheet anyway. I highly doubt either of those, though D:
Also, this is super off-topic (Although it is pretty important
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Purged...
Wow you're right! I feel sad.. I thought Apz as a great 3d artist. Is it only the head that is identical?
Purged...
"Original Content means not swiping UVs either."
It's more than likely he stole the textures too, and just shopped 'em. just sayin'.
...It doesn't feel good to 'grass up' Apz at all D:
I was looking at his "in work" models. I compared the in work head with the final product. He ripped the head and moved the vertexes around to make it "different enough" I did it too when I was learning to model. None of these seen the light of day.
Oh well, he have a new cloud that we can work on and make better!
I compared the in work head with the final product. He ripped the head and moved the vertexes around to make it "different enough"
Not cool, not cool at all Apz.
No, I had/have people thinking that I ripped and photoshopped the whole thing
In fact I wouldn't be surprised these folks are still upset at me! Honestly it doesn't really bother me though... Both amusing and slightly tiresome to me. But I feel obligated to explain myself seeing as to how upset and crestfallen it made everyone. I'll admit my laziness and the sad excuse that at the time... People were routinely posting downloads to entire characters ripped out of other games. The rules came down like a hammer AFTER my model was mostly underway, and well... That's about the time when I lost interest in this place and couldn't be buggered to care if "my dirty little secret" were to get out. My evil was the lesser evil, though perhaps more so that I never elaborated my transgressions, I did mention them in passing however once or twice, and mention was made of that in this thread.
But I will state that
I DID NOT JUST COPY THE POLYGONS OF THE DISSIDIA MODEL I DID however meticulously model it polygon by polygon (Starting with a single flat polygon using edge extrude and bridge) to reflect the same mesh, this isn't the same as copy and paste. It's like copying/replicating a master painting and measuring everything to get the exact proportions and colors. This is actually something slightly embarrassing to admit, and difficult to explain without sounding like I just copied and pasted it. but I felt that it was a great learning device and I obviously earned a greater control of my edge and polygon skills.
And as for the "Different enough" comment... 8) I was trying to match this picture:
Because Nomura said that for Advent Children they created a new interpretation of Cloud's Hair, and that even within this interpretation Cloud's hair is now pointed back more. And that for those photo's and Cinematics in Advent Children of Classic FFVII era Cloud, they pulled his hair to point more forward like it did originally. What I was trying to do was to see what this looks like with the new interpretation but still Anime styled. It was a very specific thing I was going for.
But why should you believe me? I'm a liar and a thief after all right?
I just ripped the entire model and all the textures from various games and combined it all and didn't really do any hard work, right? (I like being dramatic because well... Reading all you guys getting mad sounded so dramatic to me, I'm sorry if that's funny to me :
) Please don't quote this paragraph out of context
Actually as soon as I found out about this, I had to open up to file and compare for myself, and I was like "I'll be damned!" I really DID just copy the face texture! I always knew I left work in there that wasn't mine, but I had forgotten how blatant it was! Infact even though copying it left a bitter taste in my mouth, I seriously didn't remember clearly if I ever got around to painting my own face. I guess I didn't... That's just goes to show you how far I've come from then. That was my first ever complete character and now I've topped it off somewhere near a dozen. I can do WAY better now!
(And if you're surprised as to why I've been posting so much 8) There's not much else you can do with a baby in your lap who won't go to sleep in the middle of the night except type about stuff, I can't really work can I?) And now you ask yourself... If he doesn't feel so bad why's he typing so much? The answer is that I can't stand to be misunderstood. I have a constant need to be understood. People who deal with me in person call it mild "Aspergers", but I'm inclined not to believe it. I choose to believe that I just had very poor social skills until I became an adult and LEARNED to overcome it by studying people constantly and acting and speech giving communication classes helped. More than you ever wanted to know about me, I'm sure. I mean... Nobody really care's about my issues and I don't expect you to. But if this much expectation and dissapointment is going to be leveled on me, I like to be understood. And it's the internet!
Someone will read it
edit: Fear not, this will be the LAST time I speak about this again, so I wanted to get it all out and erase anyone's doubts for good, cover all the bases as best as I can. I don't want to talk about it anymore, but I wanted to clear the air
And so I ask you NCS, Halkun, and Weemus. Do you forgive me?
Although I don't think I'll ever match Millenia's texture painting mad skills, he truly just plain beats the crap outta me in that department ;D
Because Nomura said that for Advent Children they created a new interpretation of Cloud's Hair, and that even within this interpretation Cloud's hair is now pointed back more. And that for those photo's and Cinematics in Advent Children of Classic FFVII era Cloud, they pulled his hair to point more forward like it did originally. What I was trying to do was to see what this looks like with the new interpretation but still Anime styled. It was a very specific thing I was going for.