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sl1982
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Funny Jari that you still insist that I am biased since I just moderated someone who i regularly talk to for an attack on someone who I am clearly 'biased' against. :roll:
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sl1982
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It does, its in your profile.
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Jari
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Oh, absolutely. Because you are.
Unless you are operating on a some kind of scale; do one biased thing, do one unbiased thing = problem solved, they negate each other! I don't think it works like that, and I doubt you do, either.
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Kudistos Megistos
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Really? Because it seemed that that was exactly your problem. That was the point we were arguing about. Don't deny it, because your posts are right there.
And if you edit them, you'll just incriminate yourself further.
Indeed. We're both big boys who can look after ourselves.Sorry to disappoint, but I haven't had direct contact with Kudi-chan for quite a few months. Unlike some people who seem to use rather high-schoolish methods of rallying up a gang via PMs, I don't think I need such tactics. I can hold my own just fine without a brigade of my own. I suspect Kudi-chan feels the same way.
Seifie-kun, before making up conspiracy theories about Jari and I being in cahoots, you should look at the amount of times I have had an argument with someone and Jari has not involved himself. And vice versa. These incidents vastly outnumber the occasions when we both argue together. That last set of occasions only occurs when we both happen to agree on something and both feel strongly about it. Sowwy, there's no conspiracy :-(
Aw shucks. Well, I do try 8)
This is true, and I am pleased that you kept to your word.
However, the general tendency during this flame war has been to take the side of Seifer, assume that I am trolling and blame me for his overreactions. As I said earlier, to avoid saying anything that another member would not like just to keep the peace is simply appeasement. And, of course, appeasement does not prevent war; it merely postpones it and makes it worse when it finally happens. You can't treat some members as protected species.
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sl1982
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This is true, and I am pleased that you kept to your word.
However, the general tendency during this flame war has been to take the side of Seifer, assume that I am trolling and blame me for his overreactions. As I said earlier, to avoid saying anything that another member would not like just to keep the peace is simply appeasement. And, of course, appeasement does not prevent war; it merely postpones it and makes it worse when it finally happens. You can't treat some members as protected species.
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Nobody is 'protected' around here, save for admins that are rarely here. Like i said before I have nothing against an argument. Only attacks. If you noticed I didnt even post anything in here before that. I dont care who is right or not. You attacked him first, hence you were warned first. Apparently this makes me DLPB's personal bodyguard. He was also warned that what he said was not ok either. Cupcake was moderated for what he said. Anyone else that says something will be as well, the rules apply to everyone.
Everyone has recieved what they deserve in my opinion. My conscience is clear. Except for you maybe. Yet you were Qhimm's friend, so maybe you have protected status as well.Oh, absolutely. Because you are.
Unless you are operating on a some kind of scale; do one biased thing, do one unbiased thing = problem solved, they negate each other! I don't think it works like that, and I doubt you do, either.
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The Seer of Shadows
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Why oh why do we care this much about whether planes are safer than cars or not?
To answer my own question: We don't.
To answer my own question: We don't.
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sl1982
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I suspect that nobody really does.
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xLostWingx
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I did, but for discussion to take place, at least one other person had to actually care. There were multiple troll droppings between each 'Planes or Cars' post, so I guess I don't care anymore.
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yarLson
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after reading this whole thing and being a third party who is not directly involved with either side, I can pretty much say this as a certainty :evil:
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drfeelgud88
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Scratch that above statement -- it was a bit harsh. I apologize.
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Mako
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What?!? Sl1982 an admin! yay!!!
Guess Qhimm likes your style 8)
Also for those of you wondering I am tired. Also I'd imagine this thread won't be here in the morning as completely unrelated chances aren't lookin to good.
Guess Qhimm likes your style 8)
Also for those of you wondering I am tired. Also I'd imagine this thread won't be here in the morning as completely unrelated chances aren't lookin to good.
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yarLson
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haha whats really sad is that kudi put this post together in a few minutes and worked up 70 replies in a single day whereas I have been busting my ass on my project for the past several weeks and I have only racked up about 12 posts :'(
honestly I find that hilarious
honestly I find that hilarious
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DLPB_
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Congrats on the promotion.
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Kudistos Megistos
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I didn't start that thread; it was split off from another one.
Interestingly, obesebear decided to split the thread starting from the moment that I disagreed with Seifer, obviously implying that the mere act of disagreeing with him is trolling.
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sl1982
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There is no need to be putting words in peoples mouths. Maybe it got split at that point because it made the most sense? Disagreeing is not trolling, baiting maybe (but I dont think so in this case). But when an argument starts does it not make sense to split it at where the argument started?
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Kudistos Megistos
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When it is put into a thread called the "trolling thread", it definitely does imply that my post was trolling.
But that's no surprise "Kudistos is trolling" seems to be repeated like a religious mantra by some people when I disagree with them (because of course, there's absolutely no way I might honestly think they were wrong!). At least, they repeat the mantra until they sit down and think about things for a while and realise that I was right.
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sl1982
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Yet perhaps not the first post was trolling. Even you cannot deny that trolling was going on in the thread at some point.
I will agree that does happen. Yet it also goes the other way. Others get labeled the same just because of their past behaviour.
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Kudistos Megistos
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Yes, but as I said earlier, the real question is "who was doing the trolling". The answer might not be as obvious as it first seems.
The amount of time that people are mocked for their past behaviour is directly proportional to the stupidity of said past behaviour.
And although it's certainly vindicating to see people agree with me after weeks of "You is trollin'!", it's very frustrating to see that my arguments are immediately dismissed as trolling just because people either can't refute them or just don't like the person making them, and it's very frustrating to see people agree that I was right, but never acknowledge this fact. It would save everyone a lot of time, a lot of butthurt and a lot of U-turns (flip-flopping, for our Novomundane cousins) if people gave my arguments a fair hearing instead of ad homineming everything either due to personal grudges, or to avoid having to come up with an actual counter-argument.
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xLostWingx
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I've noticed instances where logical arguments are posted in response to some of your own, and they are ignored. If saving time and butthurt were your objective, then perhaps responding to logical arguements presented would do this too. And I don't like you or dislike you, or think you are right or wrong...I just enjoy pointing out things that haven't been noticed.
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Kudistos Megistos
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Give examples.
This seems to be something my opponents often have a lot of trouble doing.
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