What is friendship?

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Her Message: "I hate you, want nothing to do with you. I only went with you to the cinema because I was bored and had nobody else to go with. I try to talk to you as little as possible.

P.S.: Want to go to a roller disco?"


Uhhh... What? :?
 
I hear golddigging...
Only go if she is paying for it. Actually why not go, you might find a nice girl there, but only go if you don't have any plans.
NOTE: Did she pay or did you pay, or you both paid? Also what type of movie did you watch? Just curious (was it X-Men III)?
 
We went to see Brick and we both split everything, which as far as I was aware was standard first date practise.

The way I look at it today was that if she had wanted something to happen she would have wanted to see me again by now, perhaps she wasn't quite sure before but has now made up her mind and she isn't talking to me now so I don't get the wrong impression. We could play guessing games all day I suppose but she obviously isn't interested.
 
Okay so I've skimmed this thread because I'm tired from work...

M0T... have you told her how you feel for her? You really should because your mind is playing guessing games and "what if" games to you. For better or for worse you need to tell her how you feel and get it out of your system and see what she says.

PS - Where abouts do you live? I live S.East (near Orpington), recently moved to the area. Am loving London (espeically when it's nice and hot like today :D).
 
I live near Croydon (Coulsdon area).

I have no confidence with these things any more, when I first met her I was 5'11 at 74 KG, I got glandular fever and now weigh 62. I think I look freakishly thin and can't see how anyone would be attracted to me the way I currently look. I met up with a mate I hadn't seen since christmas on sunday and the first thing he said was 'my god, what the hell happened to you?'
 
I live near Croydon (Coulsdon area).
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Not far then!

You'll seriously feel better if you get things out in the open.

And, after all, if you don't feel like you can speak to this girl then it doesn't seem like the makings of a good relationship to me.
 
Damn I hate American ways! I would rather know my weight in kilos than in pounds. All you need is some confidence. And go to that disco. Get a nice girl there, not her though  :evil:. Imagine the irony of the situation! And also the 'resevered' is much better than unreserved, if you have to pretend you have a girlfriend. Girls love bad boys  :wink:.
 
Wow, is all I can say.

She wants me to go to mexico with her. She was being a little bit naughty earlier (flirting and such) and told me that she was walking in the park earlier and saw something that made her think of me. She also keeps saying that I don't think very much of her, can't work out if she is being paranoid or if she was fishing for compliments.

But wow, she wants me to go to mexico.  :?
 
Nah we aint going to go there now, looks to be too expensive so we were looking at maybe bits of europe since its only a train ride away.

Anyway she told me to go and find a girlfriend, then asked me what I looked for in a girl so I pretty much described her, then later on she asked me why I don't ever ask her out. Now maybe I am being dense but I would have thought that when she tells me to go and find another girl that would be a sort of explanation as to why I don't ask her out. But I don't think she wants to go out with me, like was mentioned earlier she just wants me to want her.

I finished up by telling her that none of her male friends liked her that much because they never stayed in contact with her, and if she was like she is to me to them then that would be why.

I have only been talking to her because my friend Kes told me to give it one more go. Why do I listen to her, she has worse problems than I do!
 
Well, i'm pretty much new here, however i've read through this thread and im gonna put my bit in.

First off, no wonder you are asking for advice here, you are getting played. Rotten.
All this Yes/No/Maybe stuff is obviously making you go mad, i can't even wrap my head around it, but that's women for you. If the places were swapped and this was me i would have gave up on this Page 1 or 2, however it's easy to say that when you arent in the situation, you obviously feel for this girl bigstyle, wether you know/believe it or not, I can tell from the way you speak about her.

To be honest i don't think this will sort itself out by waiting. The best course of action in my eyes would be a "proper" talk. (you know the one, it's reffered to as "The Talk"). As daunting as it may seem play the cards straight. Tell her what your feeling, and the reasons you have not said before( I.E. the confusing mixed signals that are radiating outta the girl from all angles ) and wait for the reply. If you get what you don't wanna hear then you have basically saved yourself allot of mental anquish.

I know it's crushing to hear someone doesnt want you, if that is indeed the case, but it's allot better than running back n forth trying to just work out where the hell you stand and in the long run you will get to the same result but it may do even more damage as it's been strung out for so long.

As for my experiences (engaged to be married) girls/woman love confidence. Just tell her the script and wait for her answer. Trust me, it will make things better whatever way it goes.

*edit* by the way spyrojyros_tail  , wouldnt happen to have been Donington's download there would it? ;)
 
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Right now this is a bit weird. The last thing she said to me last night was to organise a quick chat about possibly going away sometime this summer. Anyway I messaged her earlier about it and instead she asked me to go to the cinema as well as go up to london. Which seems a bit far away from a quick chat.

However, I'm pretty sure she has gone to a bar in town with a few of her friends (despite the fact that she said she wanted me to go with her next time she went). The only problem is that I know one of her friends fancies her and he keeps trying to get her really drunk because he wants to take advantage (he even said it to me!), she knows this but yet still sees him. She just seems to try to surround herself with as many people as possible regardless of how nasty they are and I just get worried that something is going to happen to her.
 
MOT you should post a picture of her so that we can see if she is worth the pain and suffering from you.
Sirus you are correct, CONFIDENCE!
 
I am not posting a picture on the internet   :-P

But she is absolutely stunning, trust me on this.
 
Update, just msned her this:

well im not the sort of person that usually gets
           annoyed when people are too busy to talk to him and its not
           like you even bothered to say you were going anywhere. You
           have just been generally acting weird lately anyway with
           all those comments youve been making about me only seeing
           you because im bored, and not thinking much of you and
           stuff like that. quite frankly its not worth my time to try
           and work out what is going through your head because i have
           enough other stuff to worry about. take care of yourself
           and have a nice life

Its not the sort of thing I usually say but there we go.
 
Should we take that as a proof that men and women can't be just friends? :P
 
Strangely enough on wednesday she asked me if I thought men and women could ever just be friends, I said we'd managed so far and she told me she put rohypnol in my pizza and I didn't remember her ravaging me.
 
Should we take that as a proof that men and women can't be just friends? :P
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Men and Women can't just be friends... fact. No matter how hard you try there's always going to be some element of "Well what if we were more than just friends" from someone which will ultimately get in the way and make or break the relationship. (I speak from experience).
M0T: Sounds like you made the right choice.
 
Well she got into contact with me tonight and I told her how I felt since I figured it was worth a shot. She told me that she just wanted to be friends and I said that that wasn't possible for me. Whats worse is that she asked me how I felt, when she did it she made it seem like she wanted to go out with me, probably because she knew I'd lie if I thought she was just going to say that.

I don't really believe that she really wants to be just friends with me, theres far too much evidence against it and her body gives her away. I think that she is frightened of something and hoped that I would just accept friendship so she could stay in her comfort zone. If she decides she misses me enough to give me a chance then she has my number but I won't be making contact.
 
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