Where Should I Start? (life advice)

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Kudistos, you misunderstand me. Alabama has low rates sometimes, yes. My point was all along that how dare you call us inbred when most likely I am smarter than most people making the arguement by a LARGE degree.

Also land is so cheap because Alabama has the lowest land taxes...and Courtney Cox bought the Scrushy Mansion I linked to.

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And yes Kudistos Ive been to college, dropped out to move to califonia. Was going as  a Computer Systems Analyst.

Im very poor, and also on disability for extreme Bipolar. I have problems, I have been a horrible decision maker in my life. If I would have correctly applied myself I would have tons of stuff to show you guys for the sake of argument, but not to say Im better than you.

I want you to understand that I do not see myself any better than anyone else(overall, I cant help but have a slight ego over my intelligence, which may or may not exceed anyones here, it doesnt really matter)Moreover, I see myself WORSE than most people, as mentioned I have made horrible life decisions, been in jail twice, was in so much trouble in school that I had to take my GED to avoid 1.5 years of alternative school(hell).

I hereby admit to you all that your most likely better than me. If you still dont believe me and care to see them I can produce my GED Scores and all the documents from the board of education skipping me(They almost didnt, because I was such a hellion trouble maker, but they figured increased work load would help, it didnt.)Second time Georgia skipped me, they were worried about my small size vs other students( I weighed 55lbs at 10 years old because I had been on the Max adult dosage of Riddlin since 3...prolly why Im crazy now)

Just want you guys to know I dont try to be an asshat, all you guys are my friends.
 
I am smarter than most people making the arguement by a LARGE degree.
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Misspelled argument, kinda ruins the delivery a bit =/ But I'll concede that you are smarter then me.

Im very poor, and also on disability for extreme Bipolar. I have problems
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I am very sorry, if you would like you could vent to me via IRC or PM. I didn't mean to offend you.

Just want you guys to know I dont try to be an asshat, all you guys are my friends.
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Again, my poor attempt at a bad joke has seemed to offend you. I was unaware that there were people out there willing to defend Alabama. It was my understanding that the place was god awful. I stand corrected.
 
Kudistos, you misunderstand me. Alabama has low rates sometimes, yes. My point was all along that how dare you call us inbred when most likely I am smarter than most people making the arguement by a LARGE degree.
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I doubt that many people take the inbred thing seriously.

Then again, you do have some pretty small towns over there, and I doubt there's much migration. Even if you're not all marrying your sisters, some of those towns must have small gene pools.

And yes Kudistos Ive been to college, dropped out to move to califonia. Was going as  a Computer Systems Analyst.
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Community college?

Im very poor, and also on disability for extreme Bipolar.
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Poor thing. I'm from a poor family too. Possibly poorer than yours. (you can't be that poor if you spend so much money on your rig and on pot). I've had my share of difficulties, too. Perhaps greater than yours.

But I managed to get into Oxford. Without trying very hard, TBH. (although that mentality bit me in the arse when I was actually there)

Don't brag about how intelligent you are and then start making excuses as to why you have nothing to show for it other than being the only person in BFE to take an SAT.

I have problems, I have been a horrible decision maker in my life. If I would have correctly applied myself I would have tons of stuff to show you guys for the sake of argument
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Woulda shoulda coulda.

I could have been the king, if I'd just applied myself.

I want you to understand that I do not see myself any better than anyone else(overall, I cant help but have a slight ego over my intelligence, which may or may not exceed anyones here, it doesnt really matter)
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O RLY? That's exactly the impression you give. Every other post you make is showing off about something or another. You even went as far as to say that you thought no-one here had a better SAT score than you. (does that mean you think you're the smartest person here?)

Such behaviour is likely to make people want to challenge you.

Moreover, I see myself WORSE than most people, as mentioned I have made horrible life decisions, been in jail twice, was in so much trouble in school that I had to take my GED to avoid 1.5 years of alternative school(hell).
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Even when you say that, you do so in a way that makes it sound like you're boasting about how badass you are.
 
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1382 for my SAT score... No Cambridge here =/ People on here probably have 1499+. Rather embarrassing. My father even scolded my for my poor performance... This was before the 2008 standard revision.

EDIT: 2005 Revision thanks Covarr.
 
You don't even mention ever going to college.
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College isn't necessarily the be-all end-all. Currently, the US has its highest rate of unemployment, at the same time it's facing a skilled labor shortage. It's only because we've been hooked on a spin that people who aren't cut-out for a four year college can only handle a "vocational consolation prize". While coming out of college as a programmer, an engineer or health care provider is wonderful, tons of students are coming out unemployed, with no direction to their life.
Being a paper-pusher at a desk job is not better or worse than manual work. To quote Mike Rowe we have millions of "shovel ready" jobs for a society that doesn't encourage picking up a shovel.

While I must agree that going to college helped me develop personally, I don't believe that skipping college obfuscates that developmental opportunity from others. They might have to try harder, but it can still come.

It reminds me of Office Space. Sitting at a desk isn't necessarily what we all want deep down. It's just what we're told we want.

Wait, do you believe in chivalry?
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I believe in equality.

he was a problem that needed dealt with,
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Covarr - do you happen to be from western PA?
 
Covarr - do you happen to be from western PA?
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Nope. Eastern WA, in fact. Why do ya ask? Did I accidentally make some reference I'm not getting?
 
College isn't necessarily the be-all end-all. Currently, the US has its highest rate of unemployment, at the same time it's facing a skilled labor shortage. It's only because we've been hooked on a spin that people who aren't cut-out for a four year college can only handle a "vocational consolation prize". While coming out of college as a programmer, an engineer or health care provider is wonderful, tons of students are coming out unemployed, with no direction to their life.
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I fear that you miss the point.

You see, Jeff was boasting about his tremendous academic ability. His booksmarts.

Surely a person is in no position to boast about his booksmarts if he has not even graduated from university? Nothing children study in high school (at least not in the English-speaking world) requires particularly high intelligence; the only way that one can assess whether a person truly does have scholarly talent, and isn't just good at memorisation and simple calculation, is by testing them with more advanced material.
 
I fear that you miss the point.

You see, Jeff was boasting about his tremendous academic ability. His booksmarts.

Surely a person is in no position to boast about his booksmarts if he has not even graduated from university? Nothing children study in high school (at least not in the English-speaking world) requires particularly high intelligence; the only way that one can assess whether a person truly does have scholarly talent, and isn't just good at memorisation and simple calculation, is by testing them with more advanced material.
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I'll concede that there's a statute of limitations on boasting. What someone achieved 5+ years ago is no longer necessarily relevant to their current situation. Akin to reliving your glory days as head cheerleader, from high school, when you're over 40.

However, I don't believe that assessing scholarly talent is only possible through higher education. Perhaps I've fallen victim to a Good Will Hunting hollywood fable. But I believe that success through self-teaching is possible. Look at Monty Oum. While flaws have been pointed out in his work, he still produces impressive stuff even though he's a dropout himself.

And plenty of people who didn't make it through college are later given honorary degrees for displaying intelligence. From Bill Gates to Stephen Colbert.

Nope. Eastern WA, in fact. Why do ya ask? Did I accidentally make some reference I'm not getting?
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Dropping the verb "to be" is really common where I live. So when you said "needed dealt with" rather than "needed dealing with" or "needed to be dealt with" I thought you were a neighbor  :) Apparently you're a brother of another... coast.
 
But I managed to get into Oxford. Without trying very hard, TBH. (although that mentality bit me in the arse when I was actually there)
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For this I commend you, yes community college. Once again Im poor, and if extremely dedicated could fund myself to go to Auburn University. I may need that. I know I cant help but find some people with a higher level of education than me stupid. Like doctors.8 years of school, most of em are as dumb as dumb gets.

Mind you, not so much surgeons and specialists, as general practicioners and many ER-only Docs.

My argument cameo out wrong cause I was slightly manic at the time, and I really meant to say that "We aren't inbred, look at these well laid out facts I have for you". But instead it came out" How DARE you, Im smarter than EVERYONE, and thats just 1 person in AL"

Of course I dont have as much stored knowledge, as someone like kudistos, of course if you finished college you stayed on the road of academia after High School and your practical knowledge did not suffer.

Once again sorry for coming off the wrong way( I usually will in my manic moods, I act a bit like charlie sheen did when he was crazy)
 
However, I don't believe that assessing scholarly talent is only possible through higher education. Perhaps I've fallen victim to a Good Will Hunting hollywood fable. But I believe that success through self-teaching is possible. Look at Monty Oum. While flaws have been pointed out in his work, he still produces impressive stuff even though he's a dropout himself.
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There are a small number of people who do great deeds in the world of academia despite having had little to no formal education beyond high school. We have yet to see evidence that Jeff is one of those people.

What you said reminds me of the Galileo fallacy. Yes, some people are smarter than all the academics who say that they are wrong. But for every Galileo, there are a million cranks who compare themselves to Galileo. And for every Will Hunting, there are million people (OK, maybe not a million, but still a lot) who couldn't hack it but like to compare themselves to him.

For this I commend you, yes community college. Once again Im poor, and if extremely dedicated could fund myself to go to Auburn University. I may need that.
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Don't you have scholarships for poor people over there? From the claims you've made about your intellect, you should be able to get a scholarship from Harvard.


My argument cameo out wrong cause I was slightly manic at the time, and I really meant to say that "We aren't inbred, look at these well laid out facts I have for you". But instead it came out" How DARE you, Im smarter than EVERYONE, and thats just 1 person in AL"

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Once again sorry for coming off the wrong way( I usually will in my manic moods, I act a bit like charlie sheen did when he was crazy)
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The problem is that this isn't an isolated incident.

I know I cant help but find some people with a higher level of education than me stupid. Like doctors.8 years of school, most of em are as dumb as dumb gets.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".
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If someone is far better educated or more intelligent than you, you may lack the ability to appreciate their wisdom; the lack of competence that separates them from you, ironically, also prevents you from realising that your assumption of superiority is wrong.
 
I love this study!
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But I must say a word of warning:

As is the case with many of these psychological "effects", knowing about it doesn't make you immune to it.

In fact, if you were to make this assumption, you might become even more vulnerable to it.
 
But I must say a word of warning:

As is the case with many of these psychological "effects", knowing about it doesn't make you immune to it.

In fact, if you were to make this assumption, you might become even more vulnerable to it.
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Well, in the article it says that when people who believed they were smarter than average were shown how they actually measured up against others, they were able to better estimate their actual rank.

So hopefully knowing about this effect, would act similarly to being shown you are not as smart as you thought. And hopefully that would make one less prone to it.

But I see your point. Walking around thinking everyone who says something I disagree with is suffering from Dunning Kreugger would automatically mean I was assuming I'm smarter than them. And then the effect would be on me. I'll, um, try to avoid that. But it still does ring true for some people I know.
 
Well, in the article it says that when people who believed they were smarter than average were shown how they actually measured up against others, they were able to better estimate their actual rank.

So hopefully knowing about this effect, would act similarly to being shown you are not as smart as you thought. And hopefully that would make one less prone to it.

But I see your point. Walking around thinking everyone who says something I disagree with is suffering from Dunning Kreugger would automatically mean I was assuming I'm smarter than them. And then the effect would be on me. I'll, um, try to avoid that. But it still does ring true for some people I know.
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Damn you! You pre-emptively wrote my response to your second paragraph with your third paragraph!

Actually, there is something else to add; it's natural for people to assume, once they've heard about things like the Dunning-Kruger effect or the hostile media effect, that they've stumbled across secret knowledge and they'll be able to guard against it in the future. This is not true. Even if you know about them, you'll have a very hard time recognising when you're falling victim to them. It's simply easier to spot the faults of others than faults of one's own.
 
I loved the study as well, and yes we have scholarships for the poor. Its called a PELL Grant.

It will only cover 2500$ a semester.... IDK what real colleges have that low prices, because I would need at least 10k per semester to go to Auburn University or UAB(University of Alabama, Birmingham)...
 
take heart my friends, for no matter what your academics are, know that you are still a hell of a stone throw ahead of me.
 
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