[Dissidia] Models - Viewer and Extractor Tool by MrAdults (2009-04-08)

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Well, like koral said, that would be more Vash's area. You could probably manage to inject replacement GMO's over the original ones without any knowledge of the containing filesystem, if you kept the GMO the same size or smaller than the original one, which would just be a matter of a hex-edit copy-paste job. But even that wouldn't be for sure, since the filesystem retrieval may expect a fixed size and mess up somehow on the GMO parsing if there is garbage data at the end of the real GMO. But since texture data is not compressed and pretty fixed-size, you could at least directly overwrite those files in the main ISO if you kept the same bit depth and resolution, since that would maintain the exact data size. But you'd still have to have something to generate the GIM files (I know there are tools, including an official Sony one meant for themes, but I know nothing about any of them).

All of this is moot where I'm involved, though, as I don't even have an original Dissidia ISO to work with. :) And I don't have a lot of interest in re-finding what Vash has probably already found, unless he just wrote a bruteforce GMO extractor. But given the filenames, it looks like he went to the trouble of actually determining the filesystem specs.
 
Can someone please repost the models and tools Aurenasek116 listed on pages 1 and 2?  The links are both dead...  Thank you.
 
I've just made a new discovery - apparently Vash's tools were in fact missing quite a few GMO's in Dissida - around 100 or so. I'm still going through them, but I've found at least one interesting model that was not present in the Vash tool dataset:

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GitMO can be used to extract all of them. I guess we may need to re-catalogue the model list on the wiki. :)

Edit: I think this is new too, unless I missed it in the original batch:
newmodel2.jpg

I recognize the area, but the throne and such is new. There are lots of other new models, but they're mostly tiny little bits of things that are hard to recognize out of context.
 
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I don't remember seeing Chaos' model in there either... though it only just occurred to me...

I forget if Cosmos has an in-game appearance or not, but she definitely wasn't in the models.
 
The throne one was in the batch provided by me. It had all levels, including this one. Chaos Throne is one of 12 levels in the game :P
As for Cosmos, completly forgot about her. I also don't remember seeing her model in the files, seeing as she does make ingame appearance.
 
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Alright, wasn't sure about the throne one. The former model definitely was not in your batch, though, Aurenasek. Having finally played Dissidia, it looks to be the model used when a fighter goes into a special ex attack/limit break. I thought Cosmos was in your batch, though, as I seem to recall stumbling upon her model. She's definitely in this new rip as well.

On a mostly unrelated note, Aurenasek, you said Vash was working on a translation mod, right? How's that coming along? :) I don't want to wait until a US release now that I've finally played it, but my Japanese is very poor, and stumbling through the menus is kind of tedious. ;) Not to mention, I'm missing a lot in the story dialog (though, so far, there really hasn't been much).
 
Yep, the first model is EX-Burst background.

As for Vash and translation, like I said earlier - Vash pretty much disappeared, nobody knows if he's still working on translation or anything, that's why I asked here ;P
I could translate stuff for you if you want though. (To be honest, would be even better if you could write a program or something to translate Dissidia, I could take care of translations themselves.).
Storyline cutscenes can be found subbed on YouTube.
 
I already gave an example on Rich's website, koral quoted it on the 1st page of this topic, just head there.
 
He also posted on my web site, and I answered him there. He had a command line that was a mashup of random parameters that didn't really make sense, and was trying to drag gmo files onto batch files and doing other crazy things. Hopefully I set him straight.

I just generally assume if you are importing models and doing things with them and know enough to figure out a modeling suite, you probably know how a batch file works. But I guess that isn't true these days. Maybe they're making the modeling suites too easy to use. ;)
 
Yeah Adults told me how to fix it. It's working now, and those instructions in the first post aren't detailed enough for most people. You know some haven't even touched the cmd before. Anyway, I managed to import the object into blender. With the textures, but the UV layout seems to be messed up. Guess there is some command I gotta put into the bat file to fix it...hmmm :-P
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The UV is simply upside down, you can either manually flip it verticaly in blender or use flipuv parameter in mesh2rdm :P
 
those instructions in the first post aren't detailed enough for most people.
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Um, I dont mean to be rude, but there is something called "google" and there are literally millions of sites devoted to cmd and dos-prompt, the thing is stupendously antique (it was around during Windows 3.1 I think, perhaps earlier?)
I will not write a nice little tutorial using cmd on the first post because it is completely irrelevant, the pointers there (posted primarily by Aurenasek116) should be sufficient.

If you dont like cmd, just wait for me to add GMO (Dissidia model) support in RINOA.  :-)

Other than that, good luck with trying to extract them  :-D
 
*sneaks in*

you guys haven't posted for a while,

<_<

>_>

you guys better have not given up yet!, I got plans to create some new stuff for dissidia...
and your my only hope! Must....replace...cloud for...tifa...,must....replace...yuna for...tidus!

its in your hands you guys *sniff* All my hopes and dreams are up to you!

*fades away*
 
MrAdults will not be posting anything more here due to his departure from the forums, so I have ammended the first post to clarify what is to become of this topic and updates here (simply, there wont be anymore updates).

I know nothing about Dissidia anyway, so this topic can be considered dead (unless anyone wishes to share anything new about Dissidia file specs or GMO).
 
Mr. Adults Final Farewell (this message is not written by me, but by our very own Mr. Adults... who sadly has left this forum.)

"My reasons for leaving are pretty simple. There can be no joy in contributing anything productive to a forum where the moderators allow, and perhaps encourage, blatantly antisocial behavior.

In citing the specific example - Allowing a thread to exist, which singles out and harasses/humiliates a single member, is not acceptable. There is no excuse, most especially not "he started it!". I do not at all mind the existence of members which incite this garbage, nor do I mind anything they have to say to or about me. As some may notice, I'm well enough in gently dumping their poop right back on top of them. I do, however, wholly object to the moderation's support of the attack thread on fundamental grounds, and the acceptance of the threads and posts (some being even in otherwise productive forum areas) that led up to said thread.

So comes the sad realization that these forums are not a deserving place, at present time, for the product of any true efforts or laboring, if those in charge of the forums themselves cannot be trusted to uphold civil policy. I also feel that to contribute to the forums, now, passively encourages these poor ideals. I hold higher standards for myself, as well as any community I am a part of.

Should an administrator become aware of this and feel that the moderator(s) in charge have merely been incompetent and/or inappropriately influenced by social contacts, they are free to contact me on the matter. I'll otherwise be hanging my hat up on these forums and migrating to, well, more civil ones."
- Mr. Adults
 
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Worryingly, I can hardly disagree with a word that Mr. Adults says. My opinion about what I thought was a very mature, self-governing community has been changed a lot by what has happened over the past week.

I shan't be leaving myself; I'd like to say that this is because I want to make a point but feel that no-one will care how many contributors go, but it's really because I can't bring myself to leave as long as there is still good work being done here and I can help in whatever small way I can.

I hope that Mr Adults can find a forum where as much good work is done here but the moderation is more active and less partisan. Perhaps in such a place someone might be valued more for what they do for the projects than for their personal friendships with the people in charge. I also hope that, if he does, he tells us about it, so that we can all go there.

I fear, however, that such a place might not exist.
 
Yeah it's too bad he left, his mesh2rdm and general knowledge was a very welcome addition here.  However, it is a bit ludicrous to think that on a FORUM where everyone is more or less free to be who they really are, that people will not butt heads and argue and act inappropriately from time to time.  It's because of this that I feel Mr. Adults was being less than sensible by just up and leaving, mods or not. 

This isn't a post about who was right or wrong, but instead about how him leaving only detracts further from the community.  I can understand if the whole forum had gone to shit, but it was two people arguing.  Is that really so serious as to warrant "hanging up your hat"?

Also notice everything is back to normal now, just thought I would mention that.
 
Yeah it's too bad he left, his mesh2rdm and general knowledge was a very welcome addition here.  However, it is a bit ludicrous to think that on a FORUM where everyone is more or less free to be who they really are, that people will not butt heads and argue and act inappropriately from time to time.  It's because of this that I feel Mr. Adults was being less than sensible by just up and leaving, mods or not. 

This isn't a post about who was right or wrong, but instead about how him leaving only detracts further from the community.  I can understand if the whole forum had gone to sh*t, but it was two people arguing.  Is that really so serious as to warrant "hanging up your hat"?

Also notice everything is back to normal now, just thought I would mention that.
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To "be oneself" is also to act as oneself would act. Thus, leaving the forum for whatever the reason, so long as one's personal morals dictate it, is perfectly normal.

To him, the "whole forum had gone to sh*t" possibly, by that one simple act. It is an easy thing to break trust.

He will be sorely missed, but I cannot say that his reasoning is not valid to him. I myself did not witness it at all, and cannot say I have an opinion on the event.
 
I think it's same as with Atrac audio format, in atrac case it's simply wav but wrapped in new header to make it look like if it was new format. I don't know really, I can be wrong.

Also here are the Dissidia tools coded by Vash, it has a GIM extractor aswell as other stuff which you can have a look at, maybe it will be of any use.

http://rapidshare.com/files/213186921/Dissidia_Tools.rar.html

Rapidshare link for now since FileFront is doing some maintance.
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Aurenasek can u reupload this file since tha link is broken and i cant get tha tools.........??
 
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