[FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f]

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21.May.2020   mph8er   New Translation   Progression at Cosmo Canyon is broken.  It may be impossible to pass with New Translation on.   Fixed as of R06g.

Is it that one? 

Why it would happen with it off is beyond me... may be that you have the field file somewhere else.  Do you have a screen shot of exact place?
 
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I think you've somehow bugged this save-file. I tested the same spot in my set of saves and have no trouble at all.

edit: Probably worth mentioning my saves were created on previous versions of R06...
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i think you are right, i did enter cosmo canyon with new translation on and used the new translation to rename nanaki, then immediately after that i went outside and saved and turned off new translation for the observatory and gi cave, but i guess i was too late

so i need to load my save before  i got there, huh? that sucks, i hate the gi cave part

sorry folks, i really wanted to use that part of new translation to rename red to nanaki

genius addition to the game though, i remember thinking that should be an option as a kid playing the game for the first time

 i'll wait for r06g to try it out though  ;D
 
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If the save is bugged, there's nothing you can do about it afterwards? And is it the the only part where it can affect the save?
 
If the save is bugged, there's nothing you can do about it afterwards? And is it the the only part where it can affect the save?
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Take below with a grain of salt, I'm not really speaking with firsthand knowledge:

Final Fantasy 7, [and probably 8, as it mostly shares the engine as I understand], is a very fragile thing. Squaresoft had a lot of trouble getting the game to work initially. There's a lot of independently moving pieces and tracked values, and if any of them get out of whack than bizarre and broken things happen.

There's a guy on Youtube who breaks FF7 in strange and bizarre ways for fun and [not so much] profit. This search will show many of the ways FF7 can be glitched and broken *without* altering the game as shipped by the publisher. DLPB is going waaay beyond that with all the changes this mod makes.
 
Ah well if it's let you past let me know what happens when you get back to Cosmo later and I'll fix then.
 
I have never read whatever you have written in your The Reunion - About GPL license file included in your project, until today. And this goes BEYOND every respect bar I may have reached with you.

Not only you uprisen yourself by even writing "It's not my ego project.", but then you strawberries literally on everyone's hat here on the community, ME and quantumpencil included. Considering that I do have huge respect for him, we're not coupled together nor we are selfish, because if we were WE WOULD KEEP OUR CODE CLOSED like YOU DO.

I thought that file was going to contain any trace of the GPL license attached, while you instead wrote your own personal story and personal view on everything, you sell THIS strawberries to everyone and then you're even trying to sound humble, and even worser you wrote something ABSOLUTELY FALSE, and feel free to give any proof of that statement as I NEVER asked you for ANY sourcecode when I did start FFNX ( and is written this way, not ffxn ):

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I supplied this to quantumpencil openly and he and True Odin agreed to help improve the code and work with The Reunion.
No my dear DLPB, you supplied NOTHING to ME personally. I started from the fork made by Quantumpencil and Nax ( https://github.com/FFT-Hackers/FF7_OpenGL ), I started to improve that fork PR after PR, and THEN I started to work on FFNx because I wanted to get a more modern rendering stack that would have helped me fix the bugs YOU CLAIM YOUR WORKING ON.

So Mr. I am the perfect guy who works tirelessly for the community, tell me: did you ever fix missing textures in Hades spell? Did you fix XInput controller support OOB? Did you improve texture loading speed? What about memory issues and crashes? Or are those whistels and bells done because we have huge ego?

You're damn sick. and I'm tired of this attitude. Learn to respect people and ONLY THEN you will start to become humble towards the eyes of the community. I always had respect for you, even after all the strawberries you pulled on Qhimm because you're used to cry, finger point and TAKE NO DAMN SELF REFLECTION. Even after that I had a 1% willingness to cooperate with you. Then after I read that file, we're done. You deserve NO RESPECT. You will have to earn it towards me.

Feel free to fork my code and do what you want on top of your selfish framework. But to the rest of the community DO NOT EXPECT any bugs to be fixed by me. Everything that will mention "FFNx" in DLPB framework, will be HIS OWN issue, HIS OWN mole of work to be fixed. DO NOT EVER consider coming to me to ask to fix anything he touches.

Good luck with your project.
 
I have never read whatever you have written in your The Reunion - About GPL license file included in your project, until today. And this goes BEYOND every respect bar I may have reached with you.

Not only you uprisen yourself by even writing "It's not my ego project.", but then you strawberries literally on everyone's hat here on the community, ME and quantumpencil included. Considering that I do have huge respect for him, we're not coupled together nor we are selfish, because if we were WE WOULD KEEP OUR CODE CLOSED like YOU DO.

I thought that file was going to contain any trace of the GPL license attached, while you instead wrote your own personal story and personal view on everything, you sell THIS strawberries to everyone and then you're even trying to sound humble, and even worser you wrote something ABSOLUTELY FALSE, and feel free to give any proof of that statement as I NEVER asked you for ANY sourcecode when I did start FFNX ( and is written this way, not ffxn ):

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I supplied this to quantumpencil openly and he and True Odin agreed to help improve the code and work with The Reunion.
No my dear DLPB, you supplied NOTHING to ME personally. I started from the fork made by Quantumpencil and Nax ( https://github.com/FFT-Hackers/FF7_OpenGL ), I started to improve that fork PR after PR, and THEN I started to work on FFNx because I wanted to get a more modern rendering stack that would have helped me fix the bugs YOU CLAIM YOUR WORKING ON.

So Mr. I am the perfect guy who works tirelessly for the community, tell me: did you ever fix missing textures in Hades spell? Did you fix XInput controller support OOB? Did you improve texture loading speed? What about memory issues and crashes? Or are those whistels and bells done because we have huge ego?

You're damn sick. and I'm tired of this attitude. Learn to respect people and ONLY THEN you will start to become humble towards the eyes of the community. I always had respect for you, even after all the strawberries you pulled on Qhimm because you're used to cry, finger point and TAKE NO DAMN SELF REFLECTION. Even after that I had a 1% willingness to cooperate with you. Then after I read that file, we're done. You deserve NO RESPECT. You will have to earn it towards me.

Feel free to fork my code and do what you want on top of your selfish framework. But to the rest of the community DO NOT EXPECT any bugs to be fixed by me. Everything that will mention "FFNx" in DLPB framework, will be HIS OWN issue, HIS OWN mole of work to be fixed. DO NOT EVER consider coming to me to ask to fix anything he touches.

Good luck with your project.
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this whole forum was ganging up on him, i'd come a little bit unhinged and be bitter as well

how do you know he wouldnt have calmed down and pulled this text file on the release of r06g? i bet that would have been the case, he posted that quite awhile ago... but now you are escalating this all over again

someone has GOT to let some stuff slide around here, sheesh
 
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I was planning on doing that - you're right.  But now I ain't.  In fact, I am going to elaborate on it.

Can someone please keep these unhinged lunatics away from my thread?  Even the capital letters thing is really juvenile and yesteryear.  If you want respect - that - and you're horrible conversation with me on Discord the other day - ain't it.

Also, no one is going to come asking you for help TO.  Don't worry.  But don't come to me asking for any help either.  Trust me, you'll need me a whole lot more.  I gave up asking you for help a while back when you made it clear you want your project to be the only game in town and took great efforts in saying repeatedly "I am only supporting ffnx now".  Well, when you forked from the source I supplied you, you forgot just one thing, didn't you...?  I can fork back at a later date.  That's your fault for being so short sighted.

And for anyone else here, let me make it clear.  In 1 month, had TO worked with me, we'd have accomplished more than TO did alone for 2 years.  Even now, they're trying to add SFX and music into the game and it will never match what I've done.  A waste of effort because they refused absolutely to work with me on The Reunion.

The Reunion will outlast you, and so will I. 


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That I asked you to work with me on.  That you agreed to help me with.  That I would have opened source to you with. 

You didn't want that.  Your way doesn't work because you're adding bells, whistles, silly gimmicks, and trying to do way too much instead of concentrating on the essentials.  Your shader support is knackered by using bgfx and that's one of many things you need to fix.

I've already stripped out 95% of the nonsense in my fork.
 
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Finally, let's look at the net result of TO's betrayal 2 year's ago....  the reunion has simply added all benefits from ffnx anyway meaning it was pointless.  everything i wanted i got anyway in the end.  My ddraw source is closed because of the kind of behaviour you displayed 2 years ago.  You must have a short memory as only 2 weeks ago we argued about this and your response was "lol.  so?"  I'll provide screen shots as evidence in the next gpl license
 
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Finally, let's look at the net result of TO's betrayal 2 year's ago....  the reunion has simply added all benefits from ffnx anyway meaning it was pointless.  everything i wanted i got anyway in the end.  My source is closed because of the kind of behaviour you displayed 2 years ago.  You must have a short memory as only 2 weeks ago we argued about this and your response was "lol.  so?"  I'll provide screen shots as evidence in the next gpl license
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This is the most childish reaction I could have ever seen. You pull history on your side. Feel free to post screenshots. Are you looking for public judging? You forget your Framework is made of pieces from all devs working here on Qhimm DIFFERENTLY than you, than your attitude of being selfish.

Shall I be afraid that you will fork it? Let me call mama then! Please do it, and fuck it up your own way as you'll be the only one to blame and maintain that. You scraped 95% out of it? I wonder what did you keep. The driver hooks to talk to the engine? LOL. You're just pathetic, not even allowing your own users to know what they are going to use. Instead you're just going to attach more noise and more useless crap no one care other than you yourself.

And your attitude of "I was going to do it, but now I'm not" it's perpetual. All over Qhimm you always say that. And you do it in purpose. You wait to piss off people so much that you take revenge next, just because our patience has a limit.

Have fun with your toy. Fork, smash, put your name on it, keep your donations for yourself. Do what you please, as long as you're out of my way.

Cheers.
 
as i said on your thread, unlike you i respect other people's work and don't need to be forced into adding credit.  You will be credited but folks will know exactly what i think of you. Good day, sir.    "my users" know exactly what they're going to use because there's an option file and a help file, genius.  You've got a very good way of alienating support.  You may recall a few weeka back i offered to supply all my work on 60fps mod to be added to your dll as a good will gesture and olive branch, which you threw right back in my face in our discord chat and left no doubt in my mind you only understand action and ruthless arrogance.  Well, dude.... anyone who knows me could tell you making an enemy out of me isn't smart and that im ruthless and vindictive and utterly without remorse to people who do what you have done.  I'm not your average intellect nor your average snivelling coward either.  Boo hoo.
 
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All things considered I have helped bug test some of the game with DLPB, I Think he has been fairly open about what has been done and what he is doing. And has been more then willing to work with people. Not taking sides and seeing things on the side of an outsider (for the most part) It feels like True Odin has done nothing but belittle everything and anything he can, We all love FF7 and want to see it at it's peak, Personally it sounds like TO has no patience at all. All things considered Reunion works for the majority with a bug here and there thats being worked on to the best that the engine can take, Meanwhile it seems like FFNX has a few problems (which is fair considering it's trying to replace the outdated renderers with modern ones.) So I'm not going to bash on it cause it will make a big difference once everything is 100% done.

I honestly feel like a lot of this is just bad blood between you guys, All I want is to be able to play the most definitive version of FF7, Cause I love this game, I love what it means for me. And I would love for everyone to be able to play it without having to worry that there can be crashes and errors and bugs. It's not either of your guys's fault that Eidos had an outdated build from the get go and had to deal with what they had back in 97, Why can't you just work this out like the grownups you both are and put aside your issues and make things the best they can be, Even if it has to be apart.
 
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Lets be clear, you offered to share 60 fps work for only one raison, the 60fps in its current way is way from perfect, in steal picture it's almost working but any time the camera moving it's horible.
So you offered to share you work on it ONLY because you hope TO will fix it...

If you wanted to share something usefull witch realy help community, you'll have offered the external sound engine, witch is (to mind mind) the only good part about reunion (i don't speack about retranslation witch is probably great but as a non english user...).

About shader, your complaining about it because you don't understand how to use it and you can't just use the crt shader (from Sunwalker) you use currently in reunion.
Bgfx shader is realy powerfull but more complex to use.
So you want to use ffnx without put any effort in it ....
Just took some time to study bgfx shader then share your great work on it, anyone will be happy with it

Help should go both way, you've complaining about png loading time in ffnx witch was broken (instead of trying to code a way to solve it and so helping ffnx), and TO took time and effort in solving it, even if png is useless for mods in ff7 comparing to dds bc7... but when some ask you to share your work so ffnx can be improved and anyone can freely choose between your job and ffnx, you don't

Your keep saying that 2 project about the same function is reinventing the wheel and a big lost in time, but the reality is if your source was open, both your source and other project can benefits because using a part from your code in another project can be improved by this other project and the final user can choose that he want.

Just look as linux opensource, hundred of version, is it a lost of time ? no, each version benefits from the work on other version, and the final user get that he want.
The only 2 valid raisons you keep your code closed are selfishness and the fear from other can found a better way from your current work and you'll finish to be forgotten... (but in opensource you'll always be in credits anyway)

So long story short, i always have been kind to you, alway helping you the best i can with my limited knowledge each time you've asked me, but i'm pissed of your selfish attitude, you never share with me ANY code nor hex value when i tryied to adapt some function for the french exe (from ochu for exemple), so i add to spend lots of time to figure it myself.... so won't help you anymore from now, i'll keep helping open source project only.
 
Firstly, nobody needs your help, satsuki.  We're all capable of placing your packs into the game.

Secondly, does anyone else around here see the problem?

I am criticized for having closed source project (and it's still closed precisely because of how QP and TO behaved).

I offered full source 60fps battles (which is largely coded by me AND has many fixes not in the Hext release)...  and now I'm criticized for that too haha.  I just can't win with you people, can I?   :-D :-D :-D

Did anyone go after Aali when he had his source closed for years - until he retired?
 Just think about how demented you sound...  Without him working on his dll in private, there wouldn't even be a discussion here.  QP and TO wouldn't be here.  FFNx wouldn't be here.

Let's cut to the meat of it.  Everyone should know you've made it clear you're on Team Odin side.  Your conversations with me in Discord have all been biased. You've even made claims that I was unwilling to help you with Reunion modification - which simply isn't true.

And why are you getting involved again?  What has this got to do with you?  It's because you're simply friends with the guy and doing his bidding.

And why are we even talking about this again?  It's because your pals won't let it go. You, Sithlord, and True Odin have continued to come onto my thread to bait me - despite the mods saying repeatedly that it wouldn't be allowed to happen.

Which brings up an interesting point.... does anyone here think I'd get away with what you and Sithlord and True Odin have been doing lately?  Please, leave my thread and don't come back.

To the mods:  Why don't you start pretending to actually be impartial.


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Initially had no intention of fixing it - and 3 other bug reports left on github have been left with message "this is bgfx - nothing to do with me"  - One of them "Well, no one else has complained yet"  LOL

It doesn't matter what you and Sithlord and True Odin say or do.  The Reunion is going to win out over time.  Call my project selfish.  Lie to people that what happened 2 years ago didn't happen.  Whinge.  Stamp.  Moan.  This project isn't going anywhere.  It was here before you.  It will be here after you.  And it's goal is one that's achievable and one tat I believe people will ultimately use long term - it's  easier to use and it's one solution.  And it has all the benefits of FFNx anyway.  So what exactly does his project have that mine does not? 

Think about it.
 
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And I think anyone with any sense can see the sabotage agenda going on here.  It's quite clearly a nasty little vendetta going on -  The initial and laughable attempt to close me down failed - so the new tactic is to come on here and hound me.  Well, it won't work.  You're all just going on ignore forever.

In the end, it's not you or that rabble who will decide - it's the fans.  They'll decide what to use.  Not you.  And I honestly think that people should take a long hard look at how True Odin and QP and the rest of his project have behaved and ask one question:  Can they be trusted?  Is this someone you can really support?  I don't think so.

Also, please quit pretending True Odin is a saint.  No one believes it.

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I commend you on the bug fixes and joypad support in case that isn't clear.  All i asked for when i came to you 2 years ago was that kind of thing.  Despite the fact im never going to work with you from this point on nor acknowledge your existence again after this post, i want you to know i believe in full credit and people will know exactly what additions in reunion come from you.  I'll also continue to supply bug reports as that aids my project as well.

True Odin:
There's no need as I'll never support Reunion. Simple as that.
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It also doesn't concern me if people do or don't use The Reunion.  See, here's the thing:  A lot of what I do is for my own growth.  To have a solution that my friends (who keep asking when this will be complete) can play.  To allow for people to choose to play it and have an alternative.  To have the game to a standard it never had in 1997.  That's my drive.

It's not for fame.  It's not for money.  It's partly ego, I will grant you that.  But not like TO and QP.  Nearly entirely for ego and fame.  So go to their project.  It doesn't bother me.  Even if only 1 person ended up using The Reunion - it would still be 1 person.  It wouldn't undo what I've done or the learning and satisfaction I've had. 

I am not like True Odin.  I never want to be.   :)

I am drawing a line under this now.  There's no point in asking, you'll get no reply.
 
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You'll never understand anything... with reunion you're imposing your vision without allowing people to mod it the way they want (for exemple at first i would have been happy if i could use it with french exe but you never share anything nor work to make it possible in any way).

As ffnx is open and can be used with any exe lang of the game, anyone is free to use it the way they want.

I always tryied to make my own work as open as possible and make my pack builder to help people use it the way they want to use it (manual install, regular iro, dds iro and even reunion) even if it's not my way to use it at all.

The only good way to make a mod is to share it open so anyone can use it /mod it as it want to.

Dont compare your work to aali's one, aali provided a driver, usable with all exe lang, not a framework with imposed modification and locked to a spécific eavily modded exe

ffnx is the way to go, a driver with lots of modding option, compatible with all unmoded exe, and anyone can use it or mod it the way they want ... even you ^^ ... it's the logic evolution from aali driver.
 
One again you'll never understand that sharing work is the way to go to speed up devel and give a better result for end users.


I won't post in this thread anymore, nor support reunion in any way as no-one need me here.
But i'm not resentful and my pack builder will keep the reunion install part so reunion user can use it easily if they need it, i don't want to blame reunion users in any way about your poor devel choises.

Good luck with reunion, hope you can finish it and make it bug free one day so users can play it to the end without random crash.

Good luck to all reunion user, i wich you the best, as i said anyone must be free to use the mod they want.
 
I urge everyone to ignore these people and let the modding do the talking.  The very fact they feel the need to continually harrass this thread should tell you they know they've lost.
 
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