[FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f]

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DLPB, did you get a look at my logs?  I am still trying to work out what went wrong on my end with my issue.  Tried other things, got nowhere.  e.e 
I did...  I'm not sure what mods you have installed...  i can't really help you with multiple mods since I don't use them.  Someone around here may be able to.

Dispel is correct, as in to get rid of.

The others are fine as far as I have seen in game.

The non dialogue is perfect apart from those entries in green or red.
 
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Alright,  i'd like to apologize for troubles on my end.   Just a lot of crazy nonsense I guess. I sent some PMS to a couple creators to see if anyone else has had the same issue here.    One issue in particular with the 7th heaven game converter.  xD  My 2012 Rerelease is POOTIS
 
"Came up with"? :) From manga and anime and the like, usually people talk about 'coming up' with new moves or techniques*. Maybe that doesn't sound so good when directly followed by the name of the technique, though. "worked out" as the literal translation makes it sound like the technique already existed, they knew about it from somewhere, and they finally figured out how to do it. If they did come up with it themselves, I don't think 'invented' would be too odd a thing to say - some of the limit breaks are pretty convoluted.

Either way, 'devised' does sound a little strange to me as well, but it doesn't bother me much.

* "After fighting a lot of enemies, I came up with a new technique. I call it: Blade Beam"
 
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OOH! OOH!!  I FOUND IT!.  After I installed the bootleg, I think I have to un-check the world and field selections and leave everything else as they are then install it, add the new driver BEFORE and that's it I think. 

But,  with Aali's driver, just replace the old driver with it after installing bootleg, right? Just wanna make sure I got this down before I go back in with my helmet and rockets. D<
 
I don't use bootleg or anything else... someone else here may be able to help :)  Prob best posting on the relevant thread though.
 
DLPB, "devise" definitely has to change.  While it may be the most technically correct word out there, it doesn't actually convey the meaning in English at all.  Devised is almost always applied to something intellectual, and it's really odd to see it used to describe anything physical.  "Discovered" might be the best compromise.  Because it is being applied to something physical, it's understood that repetitively performing these limit breaks leads to the discovery of new techniques.

I really like discovered because that could also fit a few ultimate limit breaks that are found... or "discovered"  It can be used for both meanings.
 
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In the Shin-Ra board meeting, President Shinra says "Reeve and Scarlet will share the extra revenue from the rates increase." Should it be "rate increase"?
 
DLPB, "devise" definitely has to change.  While it may be the most technically correct word out there, it doesn't actually convey the meaning in English at all.  Devised is almost always applied to something intellectual, and it's really odd to see it used to describe anything physical.  "Discovered" might be the best compromise.  Because it is being applied to something physical, it's understood that repetitively performing these limit breaks leads to the discovery of new techniques.

I really like discovered because that could also fit a few ultimate limit breaks that are found... or "discovered"  It can be used for both meanings.
I disagree. You can devise a new technique. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=devise a technique
 
Yeah, all those "techniques" are intellectual.  It's a wonky word to apply to something physical--especially when coming up with moves.  Devised is meant to apply to something intellectually substantial.

This is the actual dictionary definition:  Devised means to plan or invent (a complex procedure, system, or mechanism) by careful thought.  Coming up with new physical attacks doesn't match the scope of the word.  I would argue that the idea of what is happening is actually much better translated with a different word.
 
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A technique can be devised... that is definitely used in numerous places. The idea is that these characters ARE devising these techniques through practice and thought.  That's how the writers see it. They are learning these new techniques like any human person does... by devising them in the first place.  Bruce Lee devised/created/founded/invented Jeet Kune Do - he did not "discover it".  On the other hand, L4 Limits are learned from a manual.

The Japanese is "worked out".
In the Shin-Ra board meeting, President Shinra says "Reeve and Scarlet will share the extra revenue from the rates increase." Should it be "rate increase"?
I think either is OK. 
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1607881/When-UK-rates-rise.html

What does Covarr think ;)?
 
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Jeet Kune Do is an entire system of martial arts moves as well as philosophical background--so devised works.  But Bruce Lee didn't devise the two inch punch.  He did however discover how to punch effectively using only two inches.  The scope is what's off.  And in a tiny blurb notifying the player that the character worked out a new move, "devise" is wonky.  I honestly think discovered or even learned more closely captures the author's intent than devised.

This criticism comes from someone who is trying to make a near perfect project perfect.  Even if devised never gets changed, the retranslation is gold, DLPB.  Thanks again for the hard work.
 
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Jeet Kune Do is an entire system of martial arts moves as well as philosophical background--so devised works.  But Bruce Lee didn't devise the two inch punch.  He did however discover how to punch effectively using only two inches.  The scope is what's off.  And in a tiny blurb notifying the player that the character worked out a new move, "devise" is wonky.  I honestly think discovered or even learned more closely captures the author's intent than devised.
But discovered and learned do not work either. Discovered and learned assumes the technique existed before. They didn't find the techniques, they created them. They devised a new method of fighting.
 
But discovered and learned do not work either. Discovered and learned assumes the technique existed before. They didn't find the techniques, they created them. They devised a new method of fighting.

Yes.  That's the issue here...  the only words that can be used must match that meaning.  The martial arts analogy is perfect.  In martial arts, different kicks, punches, blocks are invented as part of that system.  So it is with FF7.
 
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I also want to add that I've been following this topic since before R01 released, and I have already played through it with the old translation. I couldn't be more grateful to you for taking the time to make this translation as perfect as possible.
 
They discovered or learned the technique through repetitively fighting.  That doesn't assume the technique existed before.  You inserted the word "method" when you used the word devised to make it work and fit the scope of that word.

Hmm...  what about "conceived?"

EX:  Cloud is fighting using Braver and conceives the idea for "Cross-Slash" which he is able to perform next time.
 
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They discovered or learned the technique through repetitively fighting.  That doesn't assume the technique existed before.  You inserted the word "method" when you used the word devised to make it work and fit the scope of that word.
No-one is going to see "learned" or "discovered" in that fashion without knowing the context.... devised makes absolutely sure of the meaning.  This is one area I won't change, because it affects the meaning.

Other word that could work is perfected, but that comes across clunky and it still alters the meaning slightly.
 
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"Developed" might be a good word. It's got a similar meaning to devised, but not as strictly intellectual.
 
Hmm...  what about "conceived?"

EX:  Cloud is fighting using Braver and conceives the idea for "Cross-Slash" which he is able to perform next time.  That seems to very closely translate from the Japanese work out.

I agree with Covarr that "developed" is better than "devised"
 
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To be honest, I don't see developed as any better.... it just seems to be changing a word for the sake of it?

http://dorsetmartialarts.com/cat/martial-arts

There are a ton of places online where you can see devised used when talking about a martial arts move, like the sweep, throw, kick.  Developed also works, but if we want to apply the same level of scrutiny that is being aimed at "devised" we could say developed brings to mind a camera.  :lol:

I'll at least consider developed though.
 
I have "series canon" turned on, but I just got the Heal materia and the abilities are called "Poison Null" and "Status Null". While I'm sure they make more sense, I'm pretty sure "Poisona" and "Esuna" are part of series canon.

(On second thought, I don't think "Poison Null" or "Status Null" make that much sense - putting a "Null" at the end instead of the beginning makes me think of an innate ability, rather than a magic spell.)
 
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