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Sega Chief
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They give a normal amount, it's just that the SP Gained message wasn't removed from them; most enemies give SP now.
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GilgameshGG
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Aw, really!?! I skipped all those Aerith moments to be with Tifa for the first time ever, all for naught!
Also, ..."Prepare to get REKT!!!"
My sides = launched into orbit.
Aw, really!?! I skipped all those Aerith moments to be with Tifa for the first time ever, all for naught!
Also, ..."Prepare to get REKT!!!"
My sides = launched into orbit.
I'd be pissed, but this is actually great, it lets me experience all of them without doing so many playthroughs. Cool thing you added in there, Chief! Also, after doing all options, I'm happy that 'Nope' still leads you back to the intended result, just for confirmation that everything I did this far worked out to the correct result. Nice catch!
on to the Work Glove
Finally, as a follow-up to my Boxer strat to Morph him for Work Gloves, this weapon is freakin' amazing. There is definitely a great window to Morph it off Boxer before it's actually picked up later in-game.
It has huge Attack power, and also has a single 2-link materia socket. That means you can just link an Elemental + whatever element materia you need to destroy most enemies real fast. For example:
1) I used a ton of summons to drop Lambda Calcule's HP low enough so that he would transform into a Magic type.
2) Then, I just used a single Tifa Limit Break to annihilate it, doing 2k+ per Limit Break wheel, because I had Work Glove + (Elemental+Earth) equipped on it, and Lambda Calcule is weak to Earth.
You can also just Berserk her (with something like a Fury Ring), and watch her go to town with her awesome speed, and basically shred through any monster.
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Hey, I'm sort of new to how 7H patching works. I know the basics from the tutorial and I could get by if I were starting fresh, but I had a question regarding this mod in particular.
I used the standalone exe first, but now I'm wanting to switch over to the 7H version since it has better compatibility (I think? Not sure if I just misunderstood something) and I want those interface mods and stuff.
My question is since I'm already at the Prison and don't want to restart, should I just keep going or would making the switch to 7H version let me keep playing from here?
Also wanted to post it here since the ID forum won't let me post for some reason. I get a soft lock when fighting sandworms in the desert. I can just turn off battles to skip them, but that isn't very fun. I'm on 1.4. Also bummed that there won't be a Dark Cave until the next patch.
edit: Oh should I mention I'm using the steam version? Not sure if it matters.
I used the standalone exe first, but now I'm wanting to switch over to the 7H version since it has better compatibility (I think? Not sure if I just misunderstood something) and I want those interface mods and stuff.
My question is since I'm already at the Prison and don't want to restart, should I just keep going or would making the switch to 7H version let me keep playing from here?
Also wanted to post it here since the ID forum won't let me post for some reason. I get a soft lock when fighting sandworms in the desert. I can just turn off battles to skip them, but that isn't very fun. I'm on 1.4. Also bummed that there won't be a Dark Cave until the next patch.
edit: Oh should I mention I'm using the steam version? Not sure if it matters.
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Gilgamesh, I beat Lambda Calcule in a much easier way - math. If you wait and keep watch with Sense, he'll eventually make himself vulnerable, however briefly, to Level 5 Death and you can just haste-spam that.
Though yeah the Work Glove is really potent on your way to the Powersoul.
Though yeah the Work Glove is really potent on your way to the Powersoul.
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GilgameshGG
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Interesting, I didn't know his level changed as you fought him.
I tried fighting his Physical form, boosting Tifa with a Fury Ring and a ton of physical damage, but when he turned into his Physical form, his healing spell turned me off of that strat (seriously? 7500 heals every couple turns? I couldn't even come close to putting a dent into him.) so I tried his Magical form, with the Tifa '6 Yeahs' Limit Break, and cleared him out easy, also stealing a Razor Ring off him in the process, so I'm happy with the way my fight went. It was pretty easy, since I made sure to level up Tifa's Limit along the story, and you can't really turn down a 12k+ attack. :mrgreen:
How does Lvl 5 Death work? Lambda Calcule's level changes during the fight?
I tried fighting his Physical form, boosting Tifa with a Fury Ring and a ton of physical damage, but when he turned into his Physical form, his healing spell turned me off of that strat (seriously? 7500 heals every couple turns? I couldn't even come close to putting a dent into him.) so I tried his Magical form, with the Tifa '6 Yeahs' Limit Break, and cleared him out easy, also stealing a Razor Ring off him in the process, so I'm happy with the way my fight went. It was pretty easy, since I made sure to level up Tifa's Limit along the story, and you can't really turn down a 12k+ attack. :mrgreen:
How does Lvl 5 Death work? Lambda Calcule's level changes during the fight?
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Yeah, every action changes his level. Usually it's just +2, I think. You can hit him with Suicide whenever it hits a 5, and it'll do capped damage. And yeah his magic mode is way easier to deal with.
I just recently finished Jenova Decay. Don't be fooled by her being level 50 - she does not respond well to math.
I just recently finished Jenova Decay. Don't be fooled by her being level 50 - she does not respond well to math.
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Sega Chief
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You can carry your save files over from the steam version as they use the same format for 7H. Go to this address: C:\Users\[User Name]\Documents\Square Enix\FINAL FANTASY VII Steam\user_###### and copy-paste out all the files called save.##. When you've done the 7H conversion, drop these saves into the save folder of the newly made 7H FF7 directory.
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Necro
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Great. I wasn't sure if it would break saves or not. My modding experience comes from fallout and skyrim where every little change will break a save game.
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just started going through the forum from beginning, lol this. rehashes the game in few funny points, reminded me of ff7 in 7 minutes yt video
Quote: Bosses up to about Gi Nattak had a sort of roulette on equipment drops; it was to help make people's playthroughs a little bit different and add some spice to it. There were some quite rare things like a Fire Armlet and even a Curse Ring to get from some of them. Curious thing is, they don't break the game too much at that level.
1)This - Did i just f myself by tring to morph most bosses till now? Is that reason they didnt give me any drops sides gil, or at least most of them? dont rmmbr if they were morphable so just tried to morph most, never got crap... :-( And trying maybe excluded regular drops in vanilla game or nt iirc...?
Edit: yeah, got an itemfrom gi nattak just now, waiting for segachief to confirm so i can chokobuckle myself... All those bosses items i missed...
2)Oh and was there renaming option in the game? Named red Nanaki but now it seems unnatural.
3)Does this thread have search function, like searching jenova to get tactics for her etc? So many info went since last i visited and its shame. started running through the whole thread for copying info and realized its gonna take a year, especialy that prolly some of earliest info is outdated. Like, boxer info a page back is great but i already got into gongaga gi cave and either i wait or reload earlier save etc etc.
I got the idea to consolidate all that into one big in depth guide w categories like bosses tactics, morph & steal quality drops (weapons, equipment...), but realized its a big bite.
4) Iirc i got enemy skill materia w laser and matra magic already present, was that a bug or intended?
I read somewhere that white wind can be learned by rufus dog if i cast mirror on myself that i obtain from train graveyard, but i didnt have steal then, thought i just missed it and later found it, so how was that possible? maybe these were for vanilla and nt diferences?
5) Quote: CLOUDs \\Character Innate: Fortify//
His innate ability is one of the most potent in that it has a chance to raise his Level whenever he is
the target for a magic-based ability. Level is tied to damage output and other formulas that make the
fighter generally more effective in battle and unlike the others he has no cap on how many stacks of
this buff he can receive.
so hes basicaly getting chance to get better dmg as time goes in battle when hes hit by magic? or what. I saw all others innates when getting them except his.
6) cant find that extra encounter in gi cave, ive reached gi nattak already? Did i miss smtn or what? Is it back in the first part of the cave? Hints?
So i just went back 2 d first part and still cant find it...
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Hello guys, I just wanna know...
Is the location of the enemy-skill materia in a place where you might miss it? It wasn't where it was on vanilla so I ask just in case I might go too far where I cannot go back.
Is the location of the enemy-skill materia in a place where you might miss it? It wasn't where it was on vanilla so I ask just in case I might go too far where I cannot go back.
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selius
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impossible to miss. comes pre equipped on a character.
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JonJon412
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Thank you
I'll continue without worrying, I manage to beat everything on the Hardcore mod I believe I can do this one too
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Necro
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Finally reached a boss that I'm just stuck on. I'm not crazy experienced with FF VII which is probably why.
The Jenova fight that turns you undead. I'm getting rocked in it.
I managed to brute force the dude in the safe already, but this one takes finesse. Any tips? Like if you can cure the undead status?
Managed to scrape by. Tifa had 54 HP left and was poisoned. Just got lucky with the Yeahs on her slots really, I didn't do anything particularly different.
The Jenova fight that turns you undead. I'm getting rocked in it.
I managed to brute force the dude in the safe already, but this one takes finesse. Any tips? Like if you can cure the undead status?
Managed to scrape by. Tifa had 54 HP left and was poisoned. Just got lucky with the Yeahs on her slots really, I didn't do anything particularly different.
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Hey Sega chief!! So I just got back into the game and just got out of the Corel prison. But the area right before dyne, the one with the save point and the broken down cars, did not have the guard scorpion. Was this encounter removed from the mod?? I was actually looking forward to fighting it again, since I am attempting a walk through without using SP for sources.
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lionheart82
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Guys can anyone help me with qs? Sega is prolly busy atm, but surely others have been/done and know the anwer?
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1) Drops shouldn't be locked out if Morph is used; they might be if Morph kills the enemy though.1)This - Did i just f myself by tring to morph most bosses till now? Is that reason they didnt give me any drops sides gil, or at least most of them? dont rmmbr if they were morphable so just tried to morph most, never got crap... :-( And trying maybe excluded regular drops in vanilla game or nt iirc...?
Edit: yeah, got an itemfrom gi nattak just now, waiting for segachief to confirm so i can chokobuckle myself... All those bosses items i missed...
2)Oh and was there renaming option in the game? Named red Nanaki but now it seems unnatural.
3)Does this thread have search function, like searching jenova to get tactics for her etc? So many info went since last i visited and its shame. started running through the whole thread for copying info and realized its gonna take a year, especialy that prolly some of earliest info is outdated. Like, boxer info a page back is great but i already got into gongaga gi cave and either i wait or reload earlier save etc etc.
I got the idea to consolidate all that into one big in depth guide w categories like bosses tactics, morph & steal quality drops (weapons, equipment...), but realized its a big bite.
4) Iirc i got enemy skill materia w laser and matra magic already present, was that a bug or intended?
I read somewhere that white wind can be learned by rufus dog if i cast mirror on myself that i obtain from train graveyard, but i didnt have steal then, thought i just missed it and later found it, so how was that possible? maybe these were for vanilla and nt diferences?
5) Quote: CLOUDs \\Character Innate: Fortify//
His innate ability is one of the most potent in that it has a chance to raise his Level whenever he is
the target for a magic-based ability. Level is tied to damage output and other formulas that make the
fighter generally more effective in battle and unlike the others he has no cap on how many stacks of
this buff he can receive.
so hes basicaly getting chance to get better dmg as time goes in battle when hes hit by magic? or what. I saw all others innates when getting them except his.
6) cant find that extra encounter in gi cave, ive reached gi nattak already? Did i miss smtn or what? Is it back in the first part of the cave? Hints?
So i just went back 2 d first part and still cant find it...
2) I was going to add an option after Cosmo Canyon to change Red XIII's name to Nanaki, if the player wants to.
3) I dunno if Qhimm's search function works; I generally type what I'm looking for into Google with 'qhimm' at the end.
4) Red likely learned these during the battle with Sample HO512; the OPTs in that fight can use both these skills. White Wind is learnable early if you have a means of producing Reflect but given the changes to Air Buster's drops I don't think it's possible any more.
5) That's an old innate description; his current one is that he gains a Strength or Magic buff based on which type of damage the other party members previously used.
Holy works on all the Jenova monsters, so combining Restore/Revive with Elemental in a weapon should yield 2x damage. I think that boss was particularly weak to magic though so Quake2 should get a good result. As for the special zombie status in that fight, you can still heal using elemental damage; if you absorb the element you can use it to restore HP in a pinch.
It was moved elsewhere; it's now found on Mt. Nibel.
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1) which i did, killed allofem with morph. Would it be too much to ask you for boss item drops till gi nattack? Or pm if its not for public? Im too far into the game to refight from game start. If not never mind.
3) it did give additional results but still no search within thread. Thx anyway.
4&5) thx!
3) it did give additional results but still no search within thread. Thx anyway.
4&5) thx!
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RascalQueen
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Jenova Decay is rough. My recommendation is, bring Vincent - Vincent's innate will heal him even while zombified. If you have sufficiently leveled elemental materia, hooking everyone up to absorb lightning or fire lets you use Beta/Trine as appropriate as strong team heals. Decay is mostly a gradual grinder though - her actual damage output is pretty bad. Also, don't use Level 5 Suicide. Maybe try it once, if you saved right beforehand, just to see what happens - it's pretty good.
And yeah for phys characters, Elemental+Holy or Elemental+Earth is good for damage, if you can spare it after making sure everyone absorbs an element for healing.
And yeah for phys characters, Elemental+Holy or Elemental+Earth is good for damage, if you can spare it after making sure everyone absorbs an element for healing.
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I'm climbing Wutai Pagoda, and looking at the NT Item List, it seems Shake can be morphed into Sprint Shoes. The only problem is, how the heck do you hit him physically, without using a Limit Break?!
I can't seem to hit him with any physical attack, let alone Morph. Granted, Yuffie is only lvl 38, with 118 W.Atk% and 126 Dex... But how high exactly is Shake's Evasion? Can you even hit him physically at all? What's the threshold...
-EDIT- : Oh my God, I just hit him.. Once in 20 hits. This is gonna be fun...
-EDIT 2-: Nevermind, I did it!
Yuffie Lvl 38
WPN: Twin Viper (Attack% 118)
ARM: Carbon Bangle (+15 Dex)
ACC: Bolt Ring (+35 Dex)
Pumping up my Dex to 126, and I could hit him every 7-8 hits. When I was under 100 Dex, I couldn't hit him once. Sweet Sprint Shoes are mine
I can't seem to hit him with any physical attack, let alone Morph. Granted, Yuffie is only lvl 38, with 118 W.Atk% and 126 Dex... But how high exactly is Shake's Evasion? Can you even hit him physically at all? What's the threshold...
-EDIT- : Oh my God, I just hit him.. Once in 20 hits. This is gonna be fun...
-EDIT 2-: Nevermind, I did it!
Yuffie Lvl 38
WPN: Twin Viper (Attack% 118)
ARM: Carbon Bangle (+15 Dex)
ACC: Bolt Ring (+35 Dex)
Pumping up my Dex to 126, and I could hit him every 7-8 hits. When I was under 100 Dex, I couldn't hit him once. Sweet Sprint Shoes are mine
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Lol that was fun!
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