[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.999992)

[karenjr95]

If Hext files can be swapped based on IRO options then could have a few in there. I've refactored the bonus/penalty sets so that if a default set is used it'll still make sense to an extent for Magic Materia.

Oh HECK YEAH! I would absolutely play New Threat in an artificial difficulty setting like that as it would deter me from just blindly filling up on all my strongest materia and always using the equipment with the most slots.

If there was a risk/reward to having more spells and lower stats overall, it would go a long way towards making the player intentionally choose to have 1 summon or 3 and to use only a particular kind of materia. As an example, I was using Cait Sith as a mule for the stuff like barrier, time, and destroy which gave big debuffs to strength and magic.

Then, I would boost luck with Amulet and do cover and counter attack, added effect and status like sleep or confu magic. The result was a tanky stuffed animal who wrecked computer AI, but did no damage.

 

[Asherdoom]

Sega thanks for reply one question: I recently started a new fresh game via 7th ehaven with your mod enabled but on main page screen i got no chance to choose which NT version i recall arrange or standard one. Is it normal?

 

[Sega Chief]

Oh HECK YEAH! I would absolutely play New Threat in an artificial difficulty setting like that as it would deter me from just blindly filling up on all my strongest materia and always using the equipment with the most slots.

If there was a risk/reward to having more spells and lower stats overall, it would go a long way towards making the player intentionally choose to have 1 summon or 3 and to use only a particular kind of materia. As an example, I was using Cait Sith as a mule for the stuff like barrier, time, and destroy which gave big debuffs to strength and magic.

Then, I would boost luck with Amulet and do cover and counter attack, added effect and status like sleep or confu magic. The result was a tanky stuffed animal who wrecked computer AI, but did no damage.

If you want to use default materia bonus/penalties, then unpack the NT IRO using the 7h launcher, go into its four hext files and delete this chunk from each:

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8FEEC8 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEED8 = 00 00 FD FF 00 00 FD FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 8FEEE8 = 00 00 FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 8FEEF8 = 00 00 03 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 8FEF08 = 00 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 05 00 05 00 00 00 FB FF 8FEF18 = 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 FF 8FEF28 = 00 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 8FEF38 = 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF48 = FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF58 = 00 00 00 00 05 00 F1 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF68 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 8FEF78 = 00 00 0A 00 00 00 F6 FF 0A 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 8FEF88 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF98 = 00 00 FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFA8 = 19 00 19 00 19 00 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFB8 = F6 FF F6 FF F6 FF F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFC8 = F6 FF 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFD8 = 0A 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 F6 FF 14 00 05 00 FB FF 8FEFE8 = 00 00 00 00 0A 00 0A 00 0F 00 F1 FF FB FF 05 00 8FEFF8 = 00 00 0F 00 00 00 0F 00 F1 FF EC FF 05 00 05 00

That'll leave the materia bonus penalties unchanged.

Sega thanks for reply one question: I recently started a new fresh game via 7th ehaven with your mod enabled but on main page screen i got no chance to choose which NT version i recall arrange or standard one. Is it normal?

That's not normal, it means the flevel isn't patched. Might be that another mod has overridden it.

 

[Asherdoom]

If you want to use default materia bonus/penalties, then unpack the NT IRO using the 7h launcher, go into its four hext files and delete this chunk from each:

Code: [Select]

8FEEC8 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEED8 = 00 00 FD FF 00 00 FD FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 8FEEE8 = 00 00 FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 8FEEF8 = 00 00 03 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 8FEF08 = 00 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 05 00 05 00 00 00 FB FF 8FEF18 = 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 FF 8FEF28 = 00 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 8FEF38 = 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF48 = FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF58 = 00 00 00 00 05 00 F1 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF68 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 8FEF78 = 00 00 0A 00 00 00 F6 FF 0A 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 8FEF88 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF98 = 00 00 FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFA8 = 19 00 19 00 19 00 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFB8 = F6 FF F6 FF F6 FF F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFC8 = F6 FF 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFD8 = 0A 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 F6 FF 14 00 05 00 FB FF 8FEFE8 = 00 00 00 00 0A 00 0A 00 0F 00 F1 FF FB FF 05 00 8FEFF8 = 00 00 0F 00 00 00 0F 00 F1 FF EC FF 05 00 05 00

That'll leave the materia bonus penalties unchanged.

That's not normal, it means the flevel isn't patched. Might be that another mod has overridden it.

I managed to start the game somehow and option appeared (lol) But first fight after drop from train pit me against ubermob that oneshots me.... I replaced the old NT mod with the newest one you got for th heaven

 

[karenjr95]

If you want to use default materia bonus/penalties, then unpack the NT IRO using the 7h launcher, go into its four hext files and delete this chunk from each:

Code: [Select]

8FEEC8 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEED8 = 00 00 FD FF 00 00 FD FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 8FEEE8 = 00 00 FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 8FEEF8 = 00 00 03 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 8FEF08 = 00 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 05 00 05 00 00 00 FB FF 8FEF18 = 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 FF 8FEF28 = 00 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 8FEF38 = 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF48 = FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF58 = 00 00 00 00 05 00 F1 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF68 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 FB FF 00 00 8FEF78 = 00 00 0A 00 00 00 F6 FF 0A 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 8FEF88 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 8FEF98 = 00 00 FB FF 00 00 FB FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFA8 = 19 00 19 00 19 00 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFB8 = F6 FF F6 FF F6 FF F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFC8 = F6 FF 00 00 F6 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8FEFD8 = 0A 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 F6 FF 14 00 05 00 FB FF 8FEFE8 = 00 00 00 00 0A 00 0A 00 0F 00 F1 FF FB FF 05 00 8FEFF8 = 00 00 0F 00 00 00 0F 00 F1 FF EC FF 05 00 05 00

That'll leave the materia bonus penalties unchanged.

That's not normal, it means the flevel isn't patched. Might be that another mod has overridden it.

Roger that, I'll give it a go!

 

[Sega Chief]

I managed to start the game somehow and option appeared (lol) But first fight after drop from train pit me against ubermob that oneshots me.... I replaced the old NT mod with the newest one you got for th heaven

Your kernel likely isn't patched or has been overridden by another mod, this breaks the scene lookup table for encounters. If you have anything that changes kernel text or the ESUI Controller Addon then those need to be disabled. NT also won't work with other gameplay-type mods.

Fast way to check it to avoid sitting through opening FMV; load a pre-existing save file in Reactor 1 (doesn't matter if it was made with vanilla or another mod). EXP gauges may look a bit off but ignore that. Check the following:
-) Flevel: Save Point gives extended options
-) Kernel: Potions heal 300HP in-battle
-) .EXE Potions heal 300HP outside of battle.

When those 3 checks are fine, it means you've got 7h installed properly or the load order of mods is no longer conflicting/overwriting NT's files. Start a New Game from there to get the intended initial state for the party.

 

[Asherdoom]

Your kernel likely isn't patched or has been overridden by another mod, this breaks the scene lookup table for encounters. If you have anything that changes kernel text or the ESUI Controller Addon then those need to be disabled. NT also won't work with other gameplay-type mods.

Fast way to check it to avoid sitting through opening FMV; load a pre-existing save file in Reactor 1 (doesn't matter if it was made with vanilla or another mod). EXP gauges may look a bit off but ignore that. Check the following:
-) Flevel: Save Point gives extended options
-) Kernel: Potions heal 300HP in-battle
-) .EXE Potions heal 300HP outside of battle.

When those 3 checks are fine, it means you've got 7h installed properly or the load order of mods is no longer conflicting/overwriting NT's files. Start a New Game from there to get the intended initial state for the party.

thanks chief for reply I mostly download mods taht remake interface (the battle one) Those that upscale backgrouinds and your NT mod. in case when you will update the mod into 7th heven caalogue i send ya a screenshot and you can help me out if i did some mistake =) (p.s. i see u updated your mod how long ould it be to implement it onto the 7th gameplay change mod pack? Or is better installing it alone apart separated from the rest? )

 

[Sega Chief]

thanks chief for reply I mostly download mods taht remake interface (the battle one) Those that upscale backgrouinds and your NT mod. in case when you will update the mod into 7th heven caalogue i send ya a screenshot and you can help me out if i did some mistake =) (p.s. i see u updated your mod how long ould it be to implement it onto the 7th gameplay change mod pack? Or is better installing it alone apart separated from the rest? )

Better to install the separate IRO from here rather than the catalog one, it's more up to date.

 

[OLKv3]

I just beat the hack (great job too, Sephiroth kicked my ass) and I have a few questions.

Spoiler

Is it normal for the game to just close after the credits?
Does Sephiroth power up if you use Knights of the Round on Jenova? I know he gains more HP in vanilla, was wondering if it affects him here

Jenova and Sephiroth were much tougher than I was expecting, since I steamrolled the previous bosses. Didn't expect them to have that much HP and got surprised by Sephiroth's party wipe on my first try. Made sure not to get the endgame equips since I wanted to try it without being uber powerful. Loved the hack, will replay on Arrange when I get the time

 

[Asherdoom]

hey chief thanks for clarify so i imported your IRO into 7th heaven and these are the mods that i am gonna use, as far as your kowledge goes will tey conflict with your mod?
thanks in advance

 

[EQ2Alyza]

hey chief thanks for clarify so i imported your IRO into 7th heaven and these are the mods that i am gonna use, as far as your kowledge goes will tey conflict with your mod?
thanks in advance

Bonez' Spell Names (kernal edit?) and Minigames > Wonder Square (games_1, games_2, jetin1 flevel edits) might conflict. SC should know.

 

[Maziac]

I'm about to start a new playthrough with the 15th May patch. Can someone tell me if I will get access to this new costume thing with just playing through the story normally or is it some sidething I need to go out of my way to access`?

 

[OLKv3]

The costumes are available through the mod options, not ingame. You choose them before starting

 

[Maziac]

Oh, I see. And looks like they are 7th Heaven only. I don't use that, but I'm curious to see what options there are.

 

[Asherdoom]

Bonez' Spell Names (kernal edit?) and Minigames > Wonder Square (games_1, games_2, jetin1 flevel edits) might conflict. SC should know.

thanks for p`rompt reply


so at the end this is what i am gonna use:

all mods i downloaded from http://7thheaven.rocks/
except NT mod that i downloaded from this topic
I imported all of them inside the 7th 2.0 as far as you know they gonna cause any conflict?

thanks in advance!


EDIT: I joticed mod seems working NT one but barret get no message when he is attacked concerning attack or def boost as per his passive (i recall in previous version mods was alerting you via battle message) is now "occult" this stack without warnign you or mods is not working as intended? (cloud got fire bolt and ice and potions give 300 hp as per mod specification)

 

[TheOppressed]

Hello Sega Chief,

You've done one hell of a job. Very impressive. Just a few things:

1. First screen of the Forgotten City has a typographical error on its label on the menu (bottom-right bar that tells the name of a location in the menu)

2. Wizard Staff is a smidge OP.. 999 MP per hit + Slash-All is IMO too good; it overshadows the Princess Guard. Although that may just be because I have a pure mage Aeris.

3.Similar to Asherdoom's post, I am having trouble in proccing Limit Boost on Cloud, during the endgame. Popping Limits and still no pop-up. I am not sure if its just because it's hit its max stats or if something's wrong.

 

[Sega Chief]

I just beat the hack (great job too, Sephiroth kicked my ass) and I have a few questions.

Spoiler

Is it normal for the game to just close after the credits?
Does Sephiroth power up if you use Knights of the Round on Jenova? I know he gains more HP in vanilla, was wondering if it affects him here

Jenova and Sephiroth were much tougher than I was expecting, since I steamrolled the previous bosses. Didn't expect them to have that much HP and got surprised by Sephiroth's party wipe on my first try. Made sure not to get the endgame equips since I wanted to try it without being uber powerful. Loved the hack, will replay on Arrange when I get the time

On the PC version, the game client closes once the credits roll. It's a shame to lose the star field from the PSX version, but it appears to have been cut.

The end bosses in NT don't gain stat boosts when using KOTR, but they are a bit further ahead of the curve than normal.

hey chief thanks for clarify so i imported your IRO into 7th heaven and these are the mods that i am gonna use, as far as your kowledge goes will tey conflict with your mod?
thanks in advance

If using Bonez, then make sure the NT option is selected. But if you still get wrong encounters then disable it. The others there should be fine.

Oh, I see. And looks like they are 7th Heaven only. I don't use that, but I'm curious to see what options there are.

These are them here: https://mega.nz/file/awtSmKIR#jqYc98dY9ZSb546_f2QNlmhN7zZCeL4cOnz3UIJkRiI

If you want to use any then let me know and I'll generate a battle.lgp with them in there for use with NT.

thanks for p`rompt reply


so at the end this is what i am gonna use:

all mods i downloaded from http://7thheaven.rocks/
except NT mod that i downloaded from this topic
I imported all of them inside the 7th 2.0 as far as you know they gonna cause any conflict?

thanks in advance!


EDIT: I joticed mod seems working NT one but barret get no message when he is attacked concerning attack or def boost as per his passive (i recall in previous version mods was alerting you via battle message) is now "occult" this stack without warnign you or mods is not working as intended? (cloud got fire bolt and ice and potions give 300 hp as per mod specification)

Everything there should be fine.

As for Barret's innate, it should only proc on physical attacks which may be why. if Cloud had fire/ice/bolt and potions are healing for 300HP in-battle then the kernel is likely fine as it's all one single file with the character AI in there. If you have battle message speed turned up to max then that may also be a factor.

Hello Sega Chief,

You've done one hell of a job. Very impressive. Just a few things:

1. First screen of the Forgotten City has a typographical error on its label on the menu (bottom-right bar that tells the name of a location in the menu)

2. Wizard Staff is a smidge OP.. 999 MP per hit + Slash-All is IMO too good; it overshadows the Princess Guard. Although that may just be because I have a pure mage Aeris.

3.Similar to Asherdoom's post, I am having trouble in proccing Limit Boost on Cloud, during the endgame. Popping Limits and still no pop-up. I am not sure if its just because it's hit its max stats or if something's wrong.

I'll sort that typo.

I think Wizard Staff just uses a regular magic formula where it should maybe be using something else seeing as it deals with MP, I'll have a think about it.

I checked the kernel and it appears to have an issue with the AI. I'll patch it just now.

***

Patches are up, kernel was a bit off. Shouldn't affect current playthroughs though.

Installer
https://mega.nz/file/bt1wFSoZ#jc7JjdmtNlqZOfzMb7cw5VAP9Oer91-PQOYoAW8URsI

IRO
https://mega.nz/file/64sQgI7K#H8Ae38NZ4BWH4CWwedw1UDxCCOskCZldkk6pb8-Ul3E

 

[Maziac]

These are them here: https://mega.nz/file/awtSmKIR#jqYc98dY9ZSb546_f2QNlmhN7zZCeL4cOnz3UIJkRiI
If you want to use any then let me know and I'll generate a battle.lgp with them in there for use with NT.

Haha those are pretty nice and funny, but no need to custom patch me, at least for now. If you can add those to the NT installer and some NPC to toggle them in-game that would be nice, but please don't waste any time on that, I'm quite ready for 2.0!

 

[Sega Chief]

Haha those are pretty nice and funny, but no need to custom patch me, at least for now. If you can add those to the NT installer and some NPC to toggle them in-game that would be nice, but please don't waste any time on that, I'm quite ready for 2.0!

I can't add them to the installer version as the vanilla game has no hotswap capability for files, only 7h currently has that.

 

[TheOppressed]

3.Similar to Asherdoom's post, I am having trouble in proccing Limit Boost on Cloud, during the endgame. Popping Limits and still no pop-up. I am not sure if its just because it's hit its max stats or if something's wrong.

Yep speaking from this day's iro.. Still doesn't work, still no Limit Boost on Cloud.. I am patching a sort of a personal custom kernel2.bin for spell names.. Could that affect it?

I'll see what I can discover after I play it some more.